Period Hats, Caps

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 07:32 pm:

Does anybody know what you call the type of caps I see men wearing on the Model T assembly line? And does anybody know where I can buy one?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 07:42 pm:

I think you're referring to a newsboy cap, which is what I am wearing in this picture. I know where you can get one in St. Louis, but that's probably not much help. Try googling it.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dexter Doucet on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 08:28 pm:

http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/gentlemans.php


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob wood on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 08:31 pm:

Bob,
Miller hats in Texas has a good selection.

go to summer caps at

http://www.millerhats.com/

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:05 pm:

Thank you Dexter for the posting on period clothing. Something for everyone !!


Bob Jablonski


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lance Sorenson on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:26 pm:

I have purchased three hats from this company.
He makes the newsboy hat and others.

http://mariposa.yosemite.net/bwear/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 12:05 am:

Thanks guys. You knew exactly what I was talking about.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 12:18 am:

I used to buy them at KMart, very reasonably priced, but found none the last time I looked. They turn up occasionally at some of the other chains, but sometimes pretty high-priced.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls,WI on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 12:54 am:

I am trying to find a Jed Clampett type of hat, and wonder if anyone makes them. I guess you have to take a couple of bites out of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 01:09 am:

Dave, maybe Jack will have it.

http://www.360wichita.com/ClothingApparel/HatmanJacks.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 10:36 am:

Dave H.

Jed actually wore real Stetsons. You could try finding an old one and running it through the washing machine and driving it under a T a bit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lawthers on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 11:40 am:

They were called many things over many years. Gatsby hats, Newsboy caps, 8/4 caps, apple caps, etc.

If I remember right, they became popular around the civil war era and continued up until prior to WWII. Look at some of the photographs on www.shorpy.com and you will see these hats in many periods. They were especially popular during the 20's and 30's.

A couple of places to buy nice ones of good quality are on, believe it or not, E-bay and from a company called Hat People in Oregon. The ones on e-bay are sold out of Georgia. The ones from Oregon are from www.hatpeople.com.

For that 1920's farm look, I like to wear a pair of bib overalls with my 8/4 cap. Puts you right in the mood for a dirt road cruise in the T.

Tom Lawthers
1926 Touring


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 12:24 pm:

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Tom, I know just what you mean. I'm wearing the overalls under my coat because February can be a little chilly, but they're my customary uniform of the day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lawthers on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:17 am:

Steve, I forgot the overalls on this ride, but remembered the 8 panel hat and the dog.me and madi


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lawthers on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:25 am:

Well now I know I can upload a picture again. Here is the one showing the hat a little better.Me & Madi II


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susan C on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 11:19 am:

Ahem...women wore the cloche hat that sort of wrapped around the head but most wore Edwardian hats and duster that were almost as long as their skirts. Ladies (and gentlemen) you may find hats by googling under :vintage hats. BTW when I finish sewing my duster I shall post a picture.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lawthers on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 11:23 am:

Well now I know I really don't know what I am doing, here is another try at posting the right picture.
I am trying to get my wife into the proper period clothing. I am slowly making progress.me & madi II


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 11:57 am:

Maybe our dogs are related, Tom. This is my younger son with his American Staffordshire, Caesar. It takes a serious harness for these guys, huh?

caesar

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L. Vanderburg on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 12:51 pm:

Target sells them.... They are called "Drivers"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 01:13 pm:

Susan, if you consider the years of Model T production - 1909 to 1927 - fashions, and especially women's fashions, changed a great deal. What would be correct in 1914 would look terribly antiquated in 1924. When I wanted to get an idea of what people were wearing in 1924 and the few years following, I went to the microfilm room of the public library and looked at clothing ads and pictures of street scenes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L. Vanderburg on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 01:15 pm:

In the Civil War era, they were called "Mechanic Hats".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Ferris on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 03:02 pm:

villagehatshop.com great hats, reasonable prices and quick shipping


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Trevor Rayment on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 03:31 pm:

Tom
That dog is giving you a most peculiar look. Can you get those dog bar things for a tourer? I would certainly consider it ...or make him ride where you can see him!
Regards
Trevor


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By peter kable on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 06:40 pm:

Can I ask a related (sort of) question?

What about speedster drivers?

The newsboy/ drivers/ mechanic hats or whatever don't stay on to well in an open speedster.

What do the speedster guys wear?

If I had hair I would not need something but a "wig" would blow off so I need something like I saw on discovery where the drivers of an open BMW sports car had skull cap/pilot helmet type head wear.

Anyone know a source?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 07:19 pm:

This is close to the cap that I wear when it is cold. Due to scuba diving my ears are real touchy about being cold. My hat is warm and I really like it. I have no monetary interest in the link below but my wife has been looking for another cap with ear flaps for me and we may just get me a second one as they are hard to find..

http://www.villagehatshop.com/kangol_earflaps_cap.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 07:55 pm:

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We always wore our caps backwards, to clear the goggles. We hit a gust on the Interstate in Wyoming that pulled the cap right out from under my goggles strap. Pretty soon, an 18-wheeler came by, waving my cap. We stopped and he gave it to me, then we both continued.

I lost another hat the same way in western NY, and didn't go back for it, as we were on the clock.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob wood on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 08:13 pm:

Peter,
back up this thread is a link to
gentlemensemporium.com
they have black and brown barnstormers that would look good and protect your noggin in a speedster.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lawthers on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:02 pm:

I must admit this thread is rather fun.

I just love the idea of wearing period cloths when driving old cars. Rather it be the 20's through the 70's.

Trevor, yes Madi, is rather an odd dog. She has a thought process of her own. I have always had birg dog types. Having a Beagle/Foxhound mix, (kind of a pit-bull) is sort of a new experience for me.

Ricks Surf City, Yes Madi looks related to your son's dog as long as they are both Beagle mixes??? Sure...

William, thanks for the info on the civil war hats being called Mechanic Hats. These hats up through pre WWII, were 8 paneled hats. They had eight seperate panels which made them rather unique.

Here's another silly photo of my riding companion. The Beagle mix.Me & Madi


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William Dizer on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:12 pm:

Talk about a back seat driver! She can put a whole new meaning to her bark being worse than her bite! Or the other way around! Kinda looks to me like she was gettin' tired of waitin' for the ride to begin!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By peter kable on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 11:34 pm:

Thanks Dexter,
I think the aviator cap will be just the thing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend, Gresham, Orygun on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 12:48 am:

I've had good luck with these guys on t-bay.

http://shop.ebay.com/profbloodgood/m.html?_nkw=cap&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3911.m270.l 1313&_odkw=&_osacat=0

Standard disclaimer, just a satisfied customer. Price was so good, I bought a couple of different colors. Lightweight hats available too.

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Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend, Gresham, Orygun on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 12:49 am:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susan C on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 01:54 am:

Tom, I understand that you've done your research. But so have I. When I have a chance I will post some pictures of period clothing. You might want to do the same. What a person wore also depended on one's social status, too. Of course people who could afford automobiles often could afford more expensive clothing. It was also the flapper era (1920's) and women did wear cloche hats. But women were also still wearing Victorian clothing including corsets, long dresses and rather large hats (particularly the older ladies i.e. my grandmother- who happened to live to 106. I have a picture of her beside a 1927 Model T wearing victorian clothing). So we shall see. I will get back to you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lawthers on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 10:23 pm:

Susan,
Yes, I find it very interesting how what would have been known as different class people, wore an assortment of various clothing.

I think one of the best web sites available today, is the Shorpy photographic site at www.shorpy.com. Here you will find many photographs of several periods, depicting what individuals wore during many decades.

I am certainly looking forward to more period clothing from any and all who may have those available.

Is it not amazing that your grandmother lived till the age of 106? I was very fortunate to know a women who lived till 105. What a story teller she was.

Tom Lawthers
1926 Touring


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 11:48 pm:

You'll find lots of ladies' antique clothing for sale at Bakersfield in April, Tom.

rdr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Susan C on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 11:39 am:

Tom, just a little story from my 106 grandmother. She was to go to a party to meet Teddy Roosevelt who was President at the time. She had a beautiful dress on but underneath she wore underwear-panteloons or whatever made of flour feedsack cloth. She had to use the ladies room before she went down to the ballroom and when finished she got into the elevator with her father who was escorting her and the President who was on his way to the ballroom himself. She felt a tugging on her skirt and realized she had tucked her dress into her 'panties' the equivilent of her panteloons. What the person standing behind her would have seen on her floursack undies would read, Rocky Mountain Flour- Pride of the Rockies- across her bottom. It was a very kind Teddy who pulled her skirt down.


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