I would like to have a picture or diagram of a Model T Wood to Model A Wire Wheel Adapter, does anyone know where I can find it?
I would love to post a picture of such, but I can't post pictures..
LOL! Glad to know I'm not the only one. Saves bandwidth, I suppose.
Aaron; If you send them to me I will post them for you. firstname.lastname@example.org
John Stoltz at www.modeltranch.com in Weatherford, TX makes one-piece T wood hub to model A wheel adapters. To my knowledge, they are the only ones available today.
I would like to see them as well. Snyders sells them but they seem to be a bit pricey.
email@example.com Seth sent me these photos, they are a bit on the fuzzy side as I had to enlarge them some.
Has anyone ever thought of having these made? I talked to a machinist and he said if I had the steel he could make them for about 30 bucks each or less.
Rob they are already being made, we as most T people are cheap, we've already lost Brassworks to fix our older riadators, read tonite on the MTFCI forum, we have now lost any new crankshafts (balanced) by Texas T parts, because people don't think before blaming the wrong vendors for there troubles, without first obtaining the facts and notifying the correct people, yes they and other parts probrably can be made cheaper, BUT you get what you pay for, quality by a known manufacturer
Yes we are cheap ! I guess it boils down to how much cash one has in their pocket, $120 (plus the steel and bolts) for a set or buying them ready made for $470 a set. Billit(sp)aluminum wheel adapters and spacers are all over the place and they sell for around $70 a pair. Look at some of the big trucks and fast cars they are used on. Bummer that I can't find a set for the Model T, guess there is just not the market to make them. I know, small market = higher prices.
Oh PS the adapters in the photos are not being made at this time. This info was passed on to me.
that one one the foto is drilled in a new 6 lug bolt pattern becouse the orginal 6 lug pattern and a-fords pattern that is 5,5" dosenīt work.
i have put up a piece in the cnc and the 6 lug 5" hole came in the 5 lug 5,5 hole
Yes that is why you need to use at least 2 plates. The first plate is drilled and counter sunk to hold the 6 bolts to mount to the hub, then is drilled and threaded just inside the diameter of the 5.5 bolt pattern that the studs for mounting the wheels will fit. The 2ed plate is drilled and counter sunk to hold the studs and drill to hold screws that mate up to the threaded holes. The thickness of the two plates need to bring the center line of the wheel to match the wood wheels they are replacing. I guess I would use the tapered head screws both to mount to the hub and mount the 2ed plate to the first as shown in the photo. Hope this is clear as Mud!
thanks now i understand how itīdone.
Well,I hadnt read the details of the loss of vendor services but in this economy,I would say the loss will be thiers in the long run in lost bussiness because folkes went else where for services and parts.
This also opens the door for competitors to come in and possiably do the work for collectors.Others are out there but when the public is convinced that only 1 company can really do the job,they tend to stop looking.
As for the adaptors,I would say liablity is the issue causeing the cost go up.
I inherited my Grandfathers 24 Coupe in the 50's and in the last 3 years I have finally gotten around to restore it. He had welded some 21 inch Model A wheels to the original T hubs and drove it many many years that way. I still have them and am planning to use them on a hack or other project. They really dont look to bad and if its done properly this is a easy way out of putting the later wires on a T. Most folks wont do this but my Grandfather just wanted good solid wheels and that was the way he did it.
Curious can a similar adaptor plate be made go from a wood (T) wheel to a wire (T) wheel?
I like the look of the wire wheels, but I cannot justify cost associated with changing all my hubs to mount the wire wheels.
Yes they can be made. The vendors used to sell them. I'd imagine they were of the multiple plate construction like the A wheel adapters on my car that Mark posted the pictures of above.
Something not mentioned in this thread is that on the Ts fitted with wire wheels from the factory, the T wheel is clamped at the five lugs BUT ALSO supported at the hubcap (outboard) end of the wheel. Many say, and I'm inclined to believe them, that the T wheel is weak compared to the A wheel. NONE of the adapters support either of the wire wheels (T or A) at that outboard diameter.
So, my recommendation if you want wire wheels on your wood-wheel hubbed T, then your safest bet is to use A wheels with an adapter.
i bought a set of adaptors to add 26-27 wire wheels to wood hubs on my 24 coupe [the hubs were good but the spokes were quite bad]..i got new argentinian [or brazilian] wheels with new firestone tires..this stuff, with rocky mtn brakes, changed the car from a shaky weekend tiddler to a safe daily driver!