On the non-starter cars, was there a different casting, or just a steel plate blocking off where the generator goes? I've got a generator, but no starter on an engine I'm putting together so I need something to block off the hole. In the Mac's catalog it shows, as an unavailable item, a steel plate, and a different casting so maybe either were supplied?
I have both the front and the back block offs. Email for pictures and details.
Here is a photo of the generator block off plate.
Ron the Coilman
That's what I need, I guess I just put nuts on the ends of the generator mounting bolts, instead of the generator?
After seeing the question I went out to the barn and took a look at the no-starter/no-generator engine out of my TT project. As the pictures show, there's a square plate in place of a starter on the front side and a bendix cover on the back side. The generator hole takes a cover like Ron shows above, with nuts on the regular bolts instead of a generator.
There also was a different casting that was installed in place of the generator mount casting and used the earlier non-generator front cover. They are few and far between, although I've seen maybe two dozen in the past 30 years.
I do not know what years they were used or maybe they were for non-automobile engines as I recently mentioned in another thread. Maybe someone out there knows the answer. I am still learning.
Should have mentioned also that most non-starter cars (maybe except 1919) did use the block-off plates as previously shown. W2
The piece Wayne is talking about was (I think) used only in 1919 or 20. It is sort of a half shell piece that closes off the area between a non - starter front cover and the engine block.
Wayne Sheldon is right, there was a casting produced for non electric cars. Please see the generator cast block off on my Motana 500 car.
All the cars I know of in the Monttana 500 run withoug generators. In case your wondering I can run for weeks including using my starter with out charging the batter. Saying that I do want to include that I will only use Interstate batteries in my cars. Wayne was also correct when he said the cast generator block offs are scarce.
If you can not find the cast gerator blocks offs please see a different block off for the generator on the far right of the picture.
The block offs are from left to right
I have never seen a Bendix drive hogshead hole cover block off plate. I always understood the usual cup shaped Bendix cover was used. You taught me one.
Ron,I have at least one,you should have asked.
I like that bendix cover posted by Steve Jelf. I think that must be one of the early ones.
In a pinch, we cut the end out of the proper-sized tin can, put in some holes and bolted that on along with a gasket. Worked fine until we got the actual plate. Gotta think like a depression era farmer sometimes.
The early (19) bendix covers were two piece with a flat end.
I have made block-off plates out of 1/4 inch plywood. It takes a long time for the wood to become saturated with oil.