You'll see from the photo of this block that someone has gouged away the engine number, but a casting that could be a date stamp, is still visible on the right of the water hole.

Would I be right in assuming that because this appears to read C-2-17, it would be a 1917 motor ?

....and I know about the hole - just have to think about how to weld it up !





Jack

Jack,
Isn't that hole where the throttle rod goes through to the other side?

Oh - is it ?

Jack

Jack, don't weld it up yet, might come in handy! GRIN Dave

Its a Right Hand Drive isnt it...being in Australia? I think its just left as is..

Jack,

Reference page 539 of Bruce McCalley’s book “Model T Ford.” Beginning about January 1923, Ford of Canada began to use a letter instead of a the year number. 1923 was indicated by an “A,” 1924 by a “B,” 1925 by a “C,” 1926 by a “D,” and 1927 by an “E.” All these dates are believed t b calendar years, not model or fiscal years.”

So your2 17 C would be a Feb 17, 1926 casting date. There is a good possibility that the block has “Made In Canada” underneath the “Ford” script. Somewhere there is information about when Ford USA (not Ford Canada) switched to the one piece valve cover and how they eventually closed up the cylinder block passage for the throttle rod. But I’ll have to wait until later to run across that.

Suggestion to consider, if you start your postings off with “Here in Australia…” or something similar, it will remind folks that most of the T parts were originally supplied by Ford of Canada and that many of the items varied some from USA production or when USA production switched from one style to the next style of part etc. If you have not had a chance to look at “Frontenac Motor Company” at: http://www.modelt.ca/ it has some other Canadian Ford information.

Very Respectfully,

Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.

Thanks for the information. I was hoping that I'd found a 1917 engine, but I'll keep looking - and I'll leave the hole alone.

Thanks also for the Frontenac Motor Company website. It's another that I hadn't seen before.



Jack

What's this about a Frontenac site?

Ricks,

Follow the link in Hap's post to Frontenac Motor Company. They seem to specialize in Canadian Model Ts.

Tom

If you wet-Magnaflux the numbers with a pulsed DC current it is possible you may be able to tell what the serial numbers were.

Jack,
Sounds like you are looking for a block with no provision to mount a generator, pre'19,and with welch plugs, generally after December 1913. Easy to identify a "candidate" when looking at the right side of a block. The left side tells the rest of the story.
Good luck on the block hunt. I'm looking for one myself.
Ken

Ken,

"Easy to identify a "candidate" when looking at the right side of a block. The left side tells the rest of the story."

Thanks for that - what are the RHS features I should get excited about ?


Jack

I have a late '12 block for my '13 roadster which has an April serial number on it. The casting date is above the serial number, and has never been messed with. I can see the two "screw" heads on each side of the casting date, but the date is not readable. This one must have been at the very bottom of the pile.