I'm starting to rebuild an 09 engine. On the early engines the valve guides, pt#3053,and the push rod guides, pt#3059 are removeable. I want to replace both these items. Does anybody know of a source for these or are these going to be machined items?

Thanks Ken

Pretty

Wow, Ken, RHD! What's the serial no and do you have any history? We're still trying to find the earliest RHD T.

On my engine #9267, 3 valve guides needed replacement and the engine shop machined them from bronze. I doubt any of the regular vendors bother to offer repros, but it may be worth talking to the acknowledged early car experts such as Kim Dobbins.

Wow. That is by far the coolest thing I have seen today!

Ken...you may want to try The Filling Station. they have push rods to open and overhead valves for early Chevy engines. Here is their website: thefillingstation.org Very knowledgeable people.
Located in Oregon or Washington.

For the Filling Station, try Filling Station. They even have NOS for GM products.

Tom

Ken, I used the original cast guides and reamed them over size. I got the new guides from Engine and performance warehouse, Inc. part no.7-15010. they need to be cut to the original size and pressed in.

An early RHD drive is something nice. I once turned a 1909 (83XX) into a right drive using a 1915 or so non starter cover from England back in 1962. That T is somewhere in California now. How much of the original T do you have? The head looks like a later high head. The steering column looks longer, perhaps a 11-14 length. The head lights are E & J. Are they new? The 1909-10 E&J model 466 are the ones being reproduced. The Model 15 J. Brown was also used, but was reproduced only for a short time back in the 1950s. It looks as if you have some thing with great potential.

Adding to Kims suggestion, I drove out the lifter guides in my 10 and brought them to a Napa autoparts store down the street. The guy looked thru his reference books and found a bronze one where the ID and OD were the same but were a little longer. Not a shelf item but got them in a few days.

Ken,

What FUN! Please keep us posted on your progress. You have an excellent chance that the Benson Ford Archives will have either a shipping document for a car with your engine number or a note/entry indicating a chassis only with that number or an engine only with that number was sent to location x,y,z. For examples see Bruce McCalley’s “Model T Ford” where he starts off with engine # 1,119 and does about every 5th serial number and quickly starts going to every 25th and then 100th serial number on pages 478-499 of his book. The shipping documents would contain information such as #1,335 shipped Mar 10, 1909 “Chassis only to Walkerville”on page 478. And #2,800 shipped May 7, 1909 “Engine only to Canada” etc. Note there is a very slim chance you may find the RHD was actually produced in the USA – as page 480 shows #2,436 was a RHD Red touring shipped to Australia. I think that was the exception rather than the norm as Canada would have been the normal source for Fords going to Australia, based on what I have read in other sources.

Again – what a great project!

Respectfully submitted,

Hap Tucker 19l5 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.

If this looks like what your looking for call me @ 903 824 1949. they are NOS

Thanks everybody for all the interest and information.
Jem: my engine is # 9962. Not going to make the oldest RHD. I've checked with the Benson Ford Archives and the shipping document shows an engine only shipping to Walkerville Ontario. In Canada only British Columbia and, I believe Nova Scotia, drove on the left. I'm in Vancouver and all the Fords sold here were RHD.
Here's what I know about this project. I aquired these parts last spring. I have the engine, one piece oil pan, RHD hogs head, early axle and one piece spindles, 2 piece driveshaft, 6 rivet rear end, springs, frame and more. They were collected by a son and father back in the 60's when early parts were still out in the fields waiting to be found. They used to head into the country and bring back all kinds of good stuff! The father passed away about 10-12 years ago and the son was going to put this car back together. However at 72 he realized he wasn't going to get it done. I called him up by chance looking for something else, not knowing he had these parts, and ended up buying this project instead. There's more to the story but I'll leave it there for now.
The headlights are E&J 466. He said they were restored years ago but I'm thinking they may be old reproduction.
Kim thanks for tip on the lifter guides I'll check into it. I'm missing one valve guide so I have to do something there.
The cylinder head is a low head.
Bob, I'll give you a call tomorrow.
Ken

Ken, WOW!! Good luck on your project! Dave

Ken, There was a guy just across the Washington state border in BC that had a lot of early T stuff. I think the town was Alder Grove and I think the guys name was Fred Lokes. That was about 35 years ago that I saw the parts. Any chance that's where your parts came from?

I'm intrigued by those guides Bob has pictured above - all the ones I have seen are like Kim's photo. Obvious crucial point is whether the o/d fits into the T block.

Car #2436 now LHD has survived and has been beautifully restored by Bob Trevan at Lismore, New South Wales. (See EFR photos). The last time I saw this car was at the 100th Anniversary Rally at Echuca last year. I first saw this car in 1983, it was really nice to see it again still in superb condition.

I have been corrected that this #2436 was exported to Australia LHD. Thanks Mark.