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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:36 pm:

Does anyone offer caps for aerosol cans that a 17 year old can't open? I'm glad my son is interested in reviving old rusty stuff, but I can't keep starting fluid, PB Blaster, carb cleaner, or brake parts cleaner on the shelf. Occasionally, I can find it in his boat or truck, but seldom on my shelf.

BTW I'm just kidding. I'm glad he's into this kind of stuff instead of some of the kinds of stuff he could be into.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:52 pm:

Hal Davis . . . Are you kidding or are you serious ?

If he has it stored in a paper bag so he can huff it, you have problems and should not be posting here but should be taking him in for corrective reasoning lessons.

Back in the 60's when I was teaching high school we lost a few 17 year old students every semester who were found dead with paper bags and cans of that stuff.

Come on this is a serious matter and should not be joked about. Are you just trying to start a new thread or did you post in all innocence ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard G Goelz on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:52 pm:

Hal, make him buy his own that's a sure fire way to keep yours on the shelf.You should have a daughter they are worse.
Rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 02:05 pm:

Frank,

No, he is not huffing it. I'm sorry if it sounded like that. No, he is using it for legitimate purposes. He's a gearhead and is always messing around with something old and worn out and trying to get it back in operating condition. Lately, it's old outboard boat motors. Last time it was an '80's model 3 wheeler. Before that, an old beat up riding mower that he had re-geared to do about 20 mph! Talk about SCARY! I rode it!

No, he's not into drugs or anything like that, thank the Good Lord. He does, however, use up my shop materials with his projects. But if that's the worst thing he ever does, we are luckier than a lot of other folks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 02:57 pm:

Teach him to use and respect your hand tools, Hal, with the idea they will be his one day. My Dad gave me a set of MWards adjustable reamers when I was about 20 - nearly 50 years ago - with a comment that cars don't use kingpins anymore. I'm not sure I knew what he was talking about. I don't think I used them until I got into Ts about ten years ago. His first car was a T roadster he bought new in 1923.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 03:03 pm:

Hal,just shop at the dollar store and get the stuff cheaper and buy more of it so you and him will have enough.
It would be a much better investment than video games and other junk that most 17 year old's want.
Besides,childproof aint a good discribtion.Adult proof is more like it because a kid has all day to tinker and read directions.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Bishop on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 03:05 pm:

Hal-
The trouble with the "child-proof" caps on aerosol cans is that I can't open them either (never have the screwdriver around that is needed), so once I open them I leave the top off while I'm working. Just had some wood wheels/felloes rebuilt a while back and had just finished staining/varnishing them. Also had the Black rattle can out to paint some other parts. Wind came along, knocked the rattle can off the table, landed upside down on the spray button (Murphy's Law?) and sprayed black paint on one of my newly refinished wheels! At least the spar varnish had already set, but guess I'm going to be doing a little more sanding and refinishing!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 03:20 pm:

Keep them in a lockable fire cabinet like they should be stored anyway. It doesn't need to be a "fire cabinet" but at least steel and lockable. Office Depot has shelved lockable cabinets pretty cheap.

Personally, I'd like to see them do away with the caps all together. Some of them darn things are hard to get off. Prying and pulling, half the time the spay nozzle goes bouncing under a bench somewhere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lewis R. Rash on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 03:28 pm:

If he is 17 and in to that kind of stuff (fixing up/working on old iron) keep a good supply - it could be a lot worse as others have stated above. Rick has a good point - give him a set of tools and teach respect for them. I use my Father's and Grandfather's tools that range from 100 - 50 years old.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 04:31 pm:

He does ocassionally buy some himself. Especially when we have none and he needs it worse than I do. When it's just a can here or there, I have no problem. We both use it. But two nights ago, I needed some carb cleaner for an old outboard. Nope, all gone. Well, let me see if I can just get it started like it is. Nope, no starting fluid either. I found about 1/8 can of brake parts cleaner and tried to clean the carb with that, but nowhere near enough of it.

We had just gotten back from an antique outboard meet on Saturday. He came home with several "new" motors and was trying to get some of them to run earlier this week.

As far as tools go, he has a decent size set of Craftsman, but they stay in the tool box of his truck. When we are in the shop, mine are just too convenient.

I was only kidding about locking the cans up. Yeah, it's frustrating to be out of something. Even more frustrating to be out of several things at once. But like I say, I'm glad he spends his time doing shop projects instead of getting into trouble.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 06:03 pm:

Hal, lucky you . . . . . I read it as if he had brake cleaner on a boat and that would be load of crap to have to shovel. Sorry for jumping to conclusions but I was in the trenches of self inflicted horse crap for a long time and it is still hard to be a moderate. Be careful with semantics. Lots of kids died from little cans of pleasure and I saw it happen. Sorry I jumped at you but it is a tough row to hoe out in the trenches. We on the side lines just look in wonderment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Schaller on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 06:09 pm:

In about 20 years, steal everything back, and then some. That is what my father is doing to me, he has more of my tools now than I ever borrowed when I was a kid.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 10:13 pm:

Yep,to this day I am constantly reminded of all the times my dad would try to do something when I was a kid and he had to walk around and find all his tools before he could start to working on something.
Now it is,"Have you got this or that?" all the time.
I had a habit of dragging home old lawnmowers when i was a kid and makeing them run and sell them for extra money.Trouble is I still have the habit,but cant hardly give 1 away any more!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Moore on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 01:37 am:

Again Frank you are right on...I read this and about jumped out of my skin. Kids "Huff" anything and die. I work nights and last night came home at 4am...went to my office and smelled chemicals, I woke up my middle daughter to see what it was (bedroom next to my office) and she had done her nails with remover and polish. Her windows were open but my office was full of a "smell". I have no reason to be worried about her but this is no excuse to not look into it.

I work at a University and see dumb things that our future does---never turn away and don't worry about a conflict that can save a life. If it smells strange find it, Frank and I have seen it and I will not ever be in a position to blame myself later.

Tim Moore


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 08:27 am:

Frank,

No offense taken. I appreciate your concern. I could have worded that differently. Huffing was the farthest thing from my mind when I wrote that. I see how one might have interpreted it that way, though. Thankfully, he is a pretty good kid. Makes A's & B's. Has a Summer and after school job, and although we do help him out from time to time, he pays for his own gas, insurance, and phone bill.

As far as smells go, it is amazing what you get used to and not notice. I can be out in the shop and use some solvent or even open my parts washer (I use mineral spirits). Later my wife will come in and complain about the smell. I won't even notice it after a few minutes. It's different when you come in from outside.

I've seen these guys huffing on TV programs like 20/20 and such. That's plain crazy. I can't believe how some people throw their lives away like that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 11:26 am:

Tell him to get a job and buy his own. Its about respect for his fathers stuff. It is like putting a empty milk carton back into the fridge. If you insist on him using your supply, teach him to put it back on the shelf, and to "replace it when its empty!"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 01:45 pm:

You guys reminded me of something. The oldest of my four sons (he's 44 now) has always been into anything mechanical. When he was a kid, I used to say that the only thing worse than not being able to find missing tools that he had used, was "finding" them in the back yard with a power lawn mower!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren Mortensen on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 09:35 am:

Harold, that's the type of thing that happened (and sometimes still does) to me. My 17-year-old has a higher IQ than the rest of us and proves it on a regular basis. Haven't found a lock that will stop him yet and we have never figured out how he knows the combinations to all the safes. Since he only needs 3 or 4 hours of sleep I suppose he's had plenty of time to work at it. He's mellowed out over the past year so he must be growing up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 09:39 am:

Guys: Not to change subject, but this has to do with danger of mixing chemicals. Everybody needs to go to AACA forum and read thread about welding + argon + brake clean. Just a heads up. Thanks, Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jimmy Benedetto on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 02:31 pm:

Hal, I feel your pain. It's funny though. I did the same thing to my dad when I was a young boy. Left his tools out, used all his WD/40. Now I am getting my just deserts times two. I have a 5 year old, who actually is not as bad as my dad now. He is 83 and comes over to use my tools and never puts them back. I found a ratchet and a socket in the rain this morning. My dad was over yesterday working on his truck and left the tools where he drooped them, laying in the dirt. I can't say anything to him. I may sick my wife on him or tell my 5 year old to tell him "put things back where you got them paw paw!" It seams we have swapped rolls. :o)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren Mortensen on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 02:13 pm:

I only left a tool of my Dad's out once. A standard run-of-the-mill Diston crosscut saw (carpentry type -- not a misery whip). The next day found me polishing the rust off with steel wool & 3-in-1 oil. Taught me a lesson.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 03:00 pm:

Speaking of Disston, the only Christmas gift ever from my Dad was a new D-8 Disston saw when I was 8. Still have that saw, and use it once in awhile.

Don't think I ever gave my sons such a memorable gift.

rdr


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