At risk of being flamed, do you think we could keep the old photos on one thread to keep from cluttering the forum? It would still come to the top on each post. Just thinking out loud.
I like it the way it is, occasionally there is good information shared and learned about a photo that I think would be lost if they were all in one big post.
Geez, I thought the old photographs were the ONE thing everybody liked!
I agree with Derek. Perhaps the only thing needs done is to tag the post "old photo". Pass them up or find them more easily. A lot of fun, informative and interesting comments on those threads !
We could always keep all the postings to one per person per year that way we wouldn't clutter up the forum at all!
I love the old photos and could care less how or who or why someone posts what they do. If I don't like it I don't look.
I agree. This forum, photos, OT, or what ever is great just the way it is. I can bring up the forum and pick and choose what I want to look at by just looking down the list. I have tried the "improved" forums on other sites and give up.
When one doesn't approve of a certain thread it's considered "clutter"?
I've never understood what's so hard about skipping over threads you don't like.
I will admit that naming your thread something that identifies it well goes a long way toward being able to skip over them. Sometimes, I find myself clicking on one that I don't care to read because the thread name is not very descriptive and I forgot what it was about. But putting Old Photo at the front ought to be quite good enough for people who don't want to look at old photos. Same goes for OT or even FJ, if that's something you don't want to read.
Jay in Northern California is the primary individual who posts pictures on here - there are others, but he's been the most frequent over the years I've been on here. The vintage photos he posts are GREAT - and in the 15 years I've been visiting this Forum, I cannot remember him failing to add "old photo" to each thread he starts.
The complaining on this place, usually over NOTHING, is becoming endemic.
More old photos please!
Actually, it seems like Jay started putting "Old Photo" in the subject line in response to somebody whining about there being too many. I think that works just fine. Does for me anyway. Makes me want to look.
Yes, I too like the old photographs every week. Missed them when Jay was not posting them awhile back. Gives me something fun to look at inbetween the posts that are more technical. If the post has "old photo" in the heading it works for me.
Here's a post from Jay back in 2014 - clearly titled "Old Photo"
I agree with Hal on properly descriptive subject lines. "Need Help!" doesn't qualify, but "Need help with carburetor problem" does.
I am with Mark. 100%
Ron, it may have been longer ago than that. And I may be wrong, but it sure seems like that is why he started doing it. Maybe he can weigh in and let us know.
The title is Old Photos but mo old photos have been posted. I am deeply offended, and I'm leaving the forum.
Be looking forward to your post this evening Steve!
Steve- apparently you didn't read my guide to using the forum in 2018...
Ah.....got it Hal. Forgot that whining isnít a totally new phenomenon on here. Just more prevalent as of late.
Keep the forum the way it is. Those old original photos are a good source of information, great for reference and discussions. Most all the time, the title says it's a photo so if you don't want to check it out. . . just skip it. There will be plenty of us that will enjoy them and sometimes even learn something from them.
There is a technical difficulty in using one thread for all old photos: those on dial-up will eventually find the thread to be useless as they have to load the entire list of posts just to see the last one.
Why not have a separate complaints thread.
What I believe makes this site popular and active is the simplicity of use, variety of subjects, Model T's being the primary function of the site.
Other sites are complicated and boring. Here you can be looking for a specific topic and discover another topic that gets your attention. Some are interesting, some controversial,some humorous, others offensive. I often get a laugh when cultural differences like language causes raised eyebrows till an explanation of the local meaning is presented. If I said we all needed to put on our thongs and go for a walk, here it means we put on a pair of open foot wear, in other parts of the world it would mean that we all don a skimpy form of underwear and parade about! Isn't a common language wonderful!
The site is not in need of modernising, it works and is user friendly.
Love the old photos along with the other "T" related stuff.
Please keep the old photos coming. They are great!!
I'm baaack! Here's an OT old photo. It was with the old family pictures but I don't recognize any of the people as relatives. I suspect it may be some of the first settlers who arrived here in Cowley County in 1869 or 1870.
Thanks Vern, I think some folks that are privileged to have high speed internet think everyone is on it and those that don't have it don't count. I can't believe the griping has already started in 2018.
Instead of complaining about photos or off topic, post something on topic. Don't some of you have better thing to worry about? If you have/had read anything in the past about OT or such you would understand what the feeling is of most people here about these subjects so why keep dragging it up?
Thank you Chris, thank you Jay.
Steve would that photo have been taken at or just after the Civil War?
I clicked on this post expecting to see an old photo and saw a complaint. Please label post correctly. It should be labeled " Complaint" .
Mark, my uneducated guess would be within a few years after the war. It could be early settlers here in 1869, or perhaps boomers before the 1888 land rush. I'm not familiar enough with nineteenth century clothing styles to make an educated guess.
I hope Mark O. will say something here about old photographs. I'm probably wrong, but I'd think photos from the 60s would be Daguerrotypes (sp ?) or tintypes. Prints on paper look like they'd be later , maybe they're boomers ?
Here I am. By the 1860s the daguerreotype had gone out of fashion. The options were albumen prints and salted paper prints from wet collodion on glass negatives. The wet collodion tintype [direct positive on black painted iron] and the ambrotype [direct positive on glass] were also popular portrait mediums at that time. Interestingly ... I was making a wet collodion tintype just a few minutes ago here at the Museum. Fixed in cyanide ... yum!
The image Steve has posted looks like it was originally copied from and albumen print.
How about naming the photos? Or something like that to make them easier to find with the Forum search.
Thanks Mark !! Much appreciated.
I hate to disagree with Mark, but I think it was a Polariod that somebody shook too hard!
Isn't that YOU?!?!
As Mark pointed out, you can't necessarily date a photo by the print. That print could very well have been made from an old collodion negative long after the picture was taken.
This picture of my mom (left) and her sisters is from a 100-year-old negative. A well preserved negative can produce new prints forever.
My two cents, the forum is fine as it is and love Jays pics!
Andy you have been Flamed!
Steve, you are very lucky to have that negative of your mom and her sisters. Very cool.
I tell my wife "How can we look ahead without looking at our past." She doesn't like that statement.
I think Iím with Andy on this one.
I love the old pictures. How nice it would be to go straight to the old picture section and look through them once in a while like I do with the Northwest Vintage Speedster pictures or the ones on the other website. There are dozens of original speedster pictures to see without going thru a hundred pictures that Iím not interested in at the moment.
As it is, in a few days we will have one hell of a time finding a picture of Steveís mother when she was a little lady.
Not sure why anyone likes these old stupid photos anyway! Look at the way it was back then with no internet or I-Phones, and all those stupid old dirt roads to drive down! I bet some of these rubes even slowed down the jalopy they were driving to talk to a neighbor or two. These photos have no place in today's society, and should probably be banned!. Shame on you Jay, and others for the hurt you might have caused by your reckless postings!
I love the photo's. I don't enjoy the comments when they are supposed to be "funny". It's tiring to start reading only to find that someone's just polishing their ego by getting something on the forum no matter if it decreases the quality of the string.
That said, I wouldn't mind a separate site for photos and comments that add additional information to the topic. Just keep the photos coming however.
We definitely need new software with multiple categories. That way, we can have dry technical discussion with no pictures in one category, pictures with no comments in another category, pictures with serious dry technical discussion in another category, pictures with humorous comments in another category....
Keep them coming! I look forward to them every morning. It gives me something to do while drinking my coffee.
Hal- too funny! I'm LMAO...
I like the forum just the way it is. If the OLD PHOTO posts are labeled as such I can easily find them. Folks who don't enjoy them can pass them by. I'm sad if any of the "humor" detracts from the thread for some. Many seem to enjoy it more than the name calling and backbiting.
No matter how we try to revise or improve the forum some will not like the change. Change is inevitable and we will get used to it if we can.
I have always deferred to Chris's or Bruce's good judgement. They have given generously of their time and know more of what is involved than I do.
For those who didn't see this in my post Making a Tintype of a Tin Lizzie ... here is a tintype of Steve Jelf in his '15 runabout. I shot it off the computer screen using a model T era camera and the wet collodion tintype technique. The picture shows trimming the metal plate to get rid of the computer screen graphics.
Hah! Chris changed the thread title...
Mark O. how long does it take to make a picture like that? Thank you for the demonstration. Thank you all for the forum which to me is just right as is. Dave in Bellingham,WA
About twenty years to get good at the process ... about eight minutes to make the image. :-) Can make an even better one if the original digital picture is done in better lighting. Cloudy bright days are always better than full sun.
Leave it as is... This is probably one of the most active and informative forums on the internet... I like it as-is with OT, photos, Marvel mystery oil and all... I am also on a retro-camper forum, that deals with vintage looking retro trailers. There have been two new (as in number 2) posts in the last 2 months. If this forum was changed to fit every ones personal likes, it would die and wither away.
usually the old photos are the only things I look at, unless i need help with something and see a relevant post.
Another vote for "leave it". Not everyone has access to high speed internet. Posts with many pictures can take forever to load and will usually be canceled by users without HS connections. So they will loose the option viewing the pictures all together. A stand alone picture post with comments loads pretty quick.
The best "feature" of this site is its text base format. It's super fast to load and navigate-- Unlike most modern VBS driven sites with ad pollution and scripts.
"The best "feature" of this site is its text base format. It's super fast to load and navigate-- Unlike most modern VBS driven sites with ad pollution and scripts."
So very very true. If I was to make websites, they'd be like this one. Then you could have more than 2 tabs open without crashing a computer. Someone I know has the most powerful gaming computer around, and still can't open more than 79 tabs without crashing.
Leave it as it is.
And, Jay, please keep them coming. I love them. Especially when there is an old photo and a current photo of the same thing.
I like the mix of text and old photos. Made me want to join and keeps me coming back.
I agree with Andy. The photos would be better in one post. Maybe like the "what have you done to your T" post. Start a new post on photos once a month. A lot of questions or concerns get buried under OT and photo post.
I certainly like the mix of old photos and text.
Thank you, Mark O. A week late in Bellingham, WA..ds
Stay the course, old photos are great
In a post by itself yes. But 50% of total post being old photos? That just pushes questions and concerns to the bottom. At the bottom where they don't get seen by many.