Does the cowl make it an S?
Herb, my guess with my limited knowledge would be a Model S roadster, because of the fenders running boards and mother-in-law seat. Love the Victorian ginger bread on the front of the house.
Ford Model S Roadster produced in 1908.
Because the N Runabout, R Runabout, S Runabout, and S Roadster parts will easily interchange you can often find photos of cars that Ford never built. But in the photo above the fenders, running boards, body are all clearly Ford Model S Runabout parts. And the chassis is clearly N, R, S, or SR. Based on the photo of a shinny car -- I would guess it is new or almost new. All that together leads us to know in this case it is a Model S Roadster.
From the Ford Price List of Parts the illustration below is a great guide:
Thanks so much for sharing it.
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Which of those cars had 30X3 wheels on them?
The R, I believe.
Gilbert - you are correct that the Model R Runabout came standard with the 30 x 3 inch clincher wheels & tires. But the Model S Roadster also was equipped with that size.
Note below are wheel and tire sizes per Pate's Early Ford Encyclopedia -- a great book available from the vendors as well as the author at: http://dunlavy.us/carlpate/index.htm It along with the sales brochures at: http://www.mtfca.com/books/bookmenu.htm
Model A - 28 x 3
Model B - 32 x 3 1/2 clincher
Model C - 28 x 3
Model F - 30 x 3
Model K - 34 x 4
Model N -- 28 x 3 (5 inch hub flange) (a few 28 x 2 1/2 for early 1906)
Model R -- 30 c 3 (5 inch hub flange)
Model S Runabout -- 28 x 3 (5 inch hub flange)
Model S Roadster -- 30 x 3 (5 inch hub flange)
Also the same wheel & tire size information is on page 46-47 of "Tin Lizzie" by Stern which was a table reprinted from the Ford Times.
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Thank you, Hap. I hadn't realized there were wheel differences between the S and SR. It's odd to me that the car capable of the bigger load had the bigger tires, resulting in more road speed but less pulling power on hills.
Nice Photo. Love the home in the back round.
I have a couple of front wheels with the teardrop cross sectional spokes and a smaller hub than the early Model T's in a 30x3 tire size. Wandering what they may be for. Looks like three possibilities, F,R or S.
Talking about the House in the background, I was told about ten years ago a Family inherited an old house and was going to doze it down and put in a double wide. I went and took all the gingerbread molding I could get off of it and the staircase railings and some of the glass windows which was the old wavy bubble glass. I only had two days after work to get these items and then it was all gone. I wish I had more time. It was a shame to see that old house buried.
Love those old houses. Too bad it has become impractical to keep them around. Stone foundations and the elements make it too costly.
Beautiful car. On my mother's side there were two old farm houses. One had six fireplaces, holes in the floor and was restored. The other had water damage, wasps, and was plain, nothing special about it. When it was bulldozed to make room for a rebuild, the dog cried for days.
The model F has 30 x 3 1/2” tires all the way around.
Thank you for the correction! My bad! I went back and looked again at the 1911 table from the Ford Times on pages 46-47 and it says 30 x 3 1/2 double tube. I guess I saw what I wanted to see rather than what was there!
Note in Bruce's encyclopedia at: http://www.mtfca.com/books/1904.htm Under the Model F it has :
Tire size was increased to 30 by 3-1/2 [larger than Model C].
And on the right column it has:
Wheels, 30 inches.
Tires, 3-1/2 inch double tube.
I suspect but I do NOT know that those 30 x 3 1/2 inch double tube tires were not clinchers -- but more likely the straight sided tires that had the rims attached with multiple bolts.
On page 32 of 63 of Chapter 4 of Carl's book "Pate's Early Ford Encyclopedia, I believe the Model F on the right hand side of the page appears to have the rims that have numerous bolts holding the rims to the wheel. The other 2 early photos of Model F's do not show those bolts or the photo was not high enough resolution for me to see them if they were there. Shown below is the Firestone version of what I think (but I do NOT know) were the double tube bolted together rims. (Photo appears to have been from E-bay.) A similar style Fisk wheel is shown on page 90 of 91 of Chapter 6 of Carl's book.
For additional photos of the Mechanically fastened rims please see:
Used on the Model N pictured at:
Also, I do NOT know if 30 x 3 1/2 inch clinchers were or were not offered from the factory for the Model F. When it comes to the 2, 6, & 8 cylinder cylinder Fords -- that is an area I need to remember to defer to those with more experience and knowledge.
Again, thank you so much for the correction and your help!
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