Sara's 1915 Touring car

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John & Sara Laurents on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 10:52 am:

This is continuation of the story about Sara's Grandfather's 1915 Touring car....
The upholstery is complete with the vintage leatherette

New/old upholstery vintage leatherette
and the fender has been repaired....

Fender before Fender After

Sara and her T


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 10:55 am:

Enjoyed the journey last year. Thank you for carrying it over into 2018


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 10:55 am:

Looks good out in the sunlight !! What became of the front seat upholstery ?!? What's the plan now ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Lynn on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 11:49 am:

How did you do the vintage leather look?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter McIntyre on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 04:45 pm:

Your fender repair is amazing.Hats off to the repairer.I like how the originality has been preserved.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Friday, January 12, 2018 - 11:13 pm:

Yes, great fender repair. Outstanding!

Cheers,
Willis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don - Conroe, TX on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 08:58 am:

Looking great.....thanks for posting an update.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 09:31 am:

SUPER!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John & Sara Laurents on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 10:15 am:

To Rich in Blackfoot, Idaho....the front seat upholstery and springs have been gone for many years....The wood frame was in excellent condition. The Back seat upholstery on the seat cushion was in shreds and spring was bent and broken. The only original remaining upholstery was the back rest of the back seat and it was in very poor condition.
To mark Lynn....the vintage leatherette came from Big Z Fabrics in California...see my 2017 thread.

2017 Thread

It needed upholstery and I did not want a "new" look.

The clutch appears to need replacing so my next project is to remove the engine, replace the clutch and bands and install rings while the engine is out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John & Sara Laurents on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 10:17 am:

Here's a close up of the upholstery

New/Old Upholstery


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 10:27 am:

Thank you for the "rest of the story". I couldn't seem to locate the previous thread. Great job on the new/old upholstery !!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By FreighTer Jim on Sunday, January 14, 2018 - 10:01 am:

Rich,

Original thread from 2017 is here:

@ http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/786225.html?1506367438

FJ


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Sunday, January 14, 2018 - 10:20 am:

Thanks FJ !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John & Sara Laurents on Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 02:50 pm:

switch cover

Making progress...Does anyone know if the switch cover pictured is what was installed on early 15's? Or should a brass and black plate be installed over this cover?

On other news, we have decided to make the car mechanically perfect without changing the outward appearance. Removed the engine this week, with the supervision and help of my friend, John Strickland. Discovered that it is in excellent condition. cylinders do not need boring; valve guides are tight and will be reused; valves will be replaced; valve seats are perfect; crankshaft and main bearings need turning; cam shaft is perfect; new rods and aluminum pistons; installing turbo clutch, magneto needs to be replaced...ordered from Snyders; shaving the head and block. Should have installed within two weeks.

I understand that there is some discussion whether Henry painted the engines or not. We plan to not paint and leave original appearance.

Still looking for some top irons that are missing. I need the two front and passenger rear irons.

When all is done....we may even do some limited touring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 04:41 pm:

John,

You have the late 1917-1922 style cover and most likely late 1917-122 style switch. Below is what the later 1913 steel coil box into 1917 style switch looked like (thank you Ken Parker for the photo) :



Below is the 1915-1917ish coil box - note the rounded corners of the one-piece lid and the bakelite housing for the switch, The brass plate was 1915-16 and the steel painted black plate was used after that. (thank you Jim Lyons for the photo):



Below is the late 1917 to 1922 switch - note it has an all steel cover and you do not see any backelite on the sides. It appears to me that is the same switch on your coil box. Photo was on e-bay a while back.



And below is the late 1917 - 1925 coil box 3 piece lid:



Note the switches function the same and interchange -- they just are made a little different.

See also the postings at:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/350042.html?1364163021


http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/123686.html?1266363995

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/348492.html?1363791843

And reproduction switches are available -- but for keeping your car looking original/used -- they would need to be toned down some. Also at the price - some of us might use a later switch (we have a 1940's light switch for off/battery/mag on our 1915. It came that way back in 1951 or so and still works.) See Lang's part number 4730S at: https://www.modeltford.com/pl.aspx?t=s&v=4730S%20&page=1

Great looking T !

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 05:04 pm:

By the way - The wood on the front seat back rest as well as the metal body maker tag you posted on the original thread at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/786225.html?1506367438 all point to a body made by Beaudett (also spelled Beaudette and referred to as Pontiac in many of the USA Ford Documents). I looked for, but I did not see a comment by you saying you did or did not find a letter "B" on the front seat "and - or" the rear seat heel panel (the part the heel of your shoe would hit if you kicked backwards while sitting in the seat)? Would you please take a look and let us know if your car has a letter on either of those panels and if so what the letter is or the letters are?

Below is a typical location and "B" on a Beaudett body with the wood seat frame which from the photo you posted I suspect your car has the wooden seat frame.



Note the Beaudett bodies with the metal seat frames came out a little later and the few of those I have seen have a hole in the letter "B". But the earlier wood framed seats that I know of do not have the hole.

Please see the forum posting “Home for the Holidays” at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/40322.html for additional details on body letters, body numbers, and 1914 paper tags the cars were originally shipped with.

Respectfully requested,

Hap l9l5 cut off


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