Want one in your Model T Ford?
I bet that little heater doesn't do a bad job either!!!
Les and Darrel: I had one of those heaters in my 34 Ford back in the 50's when I was a teen ager in Missouri. Yes they did a great job of heating a car in the cold weather we had in Missouri. I was better on start up than the water heaters we have now because there was a very short start up time
Are you talking about the gal in the green dress of the other thing?
In 1952, my father bought a "new Ford pick-up to use in his carpenter business. Heaters were options and being a Scotsman, dad didn't see the need to spend the money. (We lived in Rhode Island, winters are North Poleish) Later, the truck became my vehicle to date with. I just told you how cold it sometimes gets in New England but to add emphasis I need to share that it would get so cold that when we went "parking" I would have to scrape the INSIDE of the windshield before we could see enough to drive. I wish we had that South Wind then!!!!!
The heaters are not hard to find. They must have sold millions of them. The hard part to find is the thin plate with the orifice in it that mounted under the carburator. I have one for an early six cylinder Chevrolet.
I had the nicest southwind I had seen since a was a kid that I bought about 4 years ago for a project car. I put it on eBay for $50 and 3 months later dropped the price to $25 just get it out of the garage. I would have though such a perfect one would have been sold quickly but apparently only I thought it was cool. Lol
Pretty racy image, her slip is showing, for the era!
When I was in college, there was an annual event in Manchester where the students had hand pulled carts with various scenes, which we took down Oxford St and badgered people for money for a charity, usually Oxfam. Well the year I took part, I was a cart puller and our scene was a jail with two girls dressed only in their bra and panties. Remember this was the 50’s and when a picture appeared in the Evening paper my favorite Aunt was shocked to see me associated with such antics.
How times have changed.
Sorry about the thread drift
Somehow the idea of a gasoline fire inside the vehicle never appealed to me.
A South-Wind warmed my BIL's IH semi truck engine. It started right up in the SEVERE cold. That's what they call regular cold nowadays. :-/
I had a 66 Bug and heat was... well... half ways. It worked OK.
My brother had a 62 Bug with a gas heater in it. Toasty. Wonder if it was a South Wind. :-)
Gads. Crooked eyes, stuff showing all over. I'm sure she's a nice lady... :-)
Susie's car is always nice and warm. :-)
We just installed a NOS South Wind Heater in a Customers 35 Ford Pick Up at the shop where I work. Well It was just this past summer we installed it. I was amazed to see one still new in the box. They are pretty neat little heaters. Very odd how it pulls fuel though. Felt weird having to drill a hole in the top of the float bowl for it to pull fuel from.
I snagged a NOS off of e-bay several years ago, so they are still out there. The thought of a gasoline burner in front of your feet is a little strange, but it must have worked pretty well.
I grew up with one of these in dad's 39 Dodge pickup in Northern California where in 1959 we had 9 feet of snow and after dad shoveled it off the Dodge before it broke the springs we had heat in seconds and were toasty warm. When I grew up I spent the early 80's driving my own daily driven 1936 Dodge sedan with a Southwind and once again I was toasty warm in seconds in upstate New York. As far as safety these were used in bombers in WWII as well as many other aircraft. My Maxwell is a little too open and early to use one but if I owned a later antique car I wouldn't hesitate to install one and enjoy one of the best car heaters ever made.
In my misspent youth I had a Chevy Corvair that had a gasoline heater in it. You went from freezing cold to blistering hot in seconds. The trade-off was lousy fuel economy though. That thing really charged through the gasoline. My second Corvair had the standard air heater off the engine. It was lousy compared to the old gasoline heater.
All my daily driver vintage VW's had Southwind heaters in them. Beetles had them mounted next to the gas tank up front and blew down towards the passenger foot well. Busses had them in back opposite side of the battery and heat channeled through the center heating duct. They work extremely well
Those VW heaters worked great- unless you were the passenger!
I had a beetle with one and it would scorch the pants and burn the knees of anyone sitting in that seat, but it sure beat relying on exhaust manifold heat exchangers to do the job.
I could go out after a 10 inch snow, start the car and turn on the heater then come back in 10 minutes to a completely snow-free car (except the free standing fenders).
I always thought it was a bit dangerous having that red hot heater sitting on top of the gas tank that in turn was right in your lap, but it did its job and then some!
The real question here is, why don't women wear slips anymore, if they did men would not need that heater!!!!!
Dale, The outlet of the heaters for the VW were round. I didn't bother to mention I had a deflector made so the heat was distributed evenly. I also had a cutout on the deflector with flexible pipe attached to a vacuum cleaner upholstery tool that I mounted in the center of the windshield. But I agree, without the deflector, it could get hot for the passenger.
Mine was a Stewart Warner and had a 4x4 inch square outlet and no diffuser to re-direct the jet-like blast.
As there wasnt alot of room to maneuver your legs around it to escape. On the good side, you could bring left over pizza to work and at lunch you could re-heat it faster than a soon-to-be-available micro-wave oven could.
I had a camper bus with a gas heater in it too and that one was just great, nice even heat almost instantly.
I did eventually find an Eberspacher branded heater for a beetle with the round outlet and the deflector as you describe, but by the time I got that, I had a water-cooled truck with a heater core to drive in the winter!
I had a 1965 Square Back V W wagon with a gas heater. Didn't drive it very long. When at a stop sign the smoke from the heater exhaust was very thick rolling out from under the car.
I had a Crosley with a Motorola gas heater, real fancy, with a push button controller, but I was a dumb kid, and couldn't get it to work. Crosleys don't make much hot water. Dave in Bellingham,WA
Fist year corvairs had South Wind Gas heaters. After that they used manifold heaters.
The VW dealer in St. Paul would not sell a VW bus or transporter without a gas heater.
I had one in my ‘33 Ford and in 403 Peugeot.
The fire pot exhaust/smoke was sucked into the intake manifold on the old American cars. They only worked if the engine was running. There was no fire danger. The gas burned inside a steel container and only if there was enough vacuum from the engine. They drew gasoline through a tiny copper tube that went into the carb float chamber vent hole. It was a totally different setup on the Corvair and VW. They had an exhaust pipe and did not depend on engine vacuum.
That ad should be updated. This is what she looks like now.
My Brother had a VW ragtop with the Southwind heater. They were also used in some light twin-engined aircraft - The Piper Twin Comanche comes to mind. I agree with Steve Jelf - the idea of an open gasoline flame inside a motor vehicle doesn't appeal to me either.
I've actually been contemplating one for my car, but I'm trying to stay true to the 1933-'34 era and it looks like South Wind heaters didn't come out until the late 1930s. I do love that ad, though!
I had a South Wind under the back seat in a Cessna 195...........ran off the wing tanks.....I never was comfortable with the whole concept.....
A person would have to be SICK of put one of those in a T!
Heat? Who needs heat?
All you really need are layers of the appropriate clothing.
With a South Wind heater there is NO open flame inside the car! None.
I have had three of them in my own cars. NONE.
I gave some thought about this - with the ton of heat that comes up through the floorboard on the right side, I'm not sure 'd want an extra heat source. Maybe in the back seat... but the front has always been somewhat "cozy" in the winter, and pretty toasty in the summer...
I don't know...heat has never been a problem inside my touring...it's getting rid of it that gets to be a head scratcher.
I had one similar in a 1963 Corvair, it got gas direct and not off the carb air intake.
It dropped my gas mileage from 30 mpg to 20 mpg.
My Mom had a 1955 Plymouth wagon with a flat head six and a after market heater, got its hot water from a outlet on the engine head, The heater would be starting to blow hot air before She got backed out of the drive way. faster than most heaters Today.
Just to add to this as have been thinks (as you d0) maybe you could take a 3 1/2 inch 90 degree or so tube.
Adjust so the exhaust runs through this, ie a hole in the end, then the natural heat/airflow in my straightforward mind would naturally funnel into the tube, not be able to go straight n and follow the pipe to the top of the 90 degree tube into the cabin.
Just to clarity I am not moving the exhaust, cutting or changing it, mearly wrapping it with a larger tube from rinnai heater which heated air could travel
I just put one in my '40 Ford Deluxe Fordor this spring. It works as advertised, 90 seconds and the fan kicks on and heat pours out!! Very happy with it.