I can't for the life of me find the thread,if I started 1 in 2018 for my project so here goes again. :0
Anyhow,I got stumped a while back on tailgate latches. It finally came to me the other day how to do it so yesterday I drew a sketch so i wouldn't forget and today i made them. works good actually. The idea is to lift both latches at the same time to open, then just give the tailgate a lift and "clic" it latches it's self. I still have some tweeking but it works 98 % of the time already.
Got some more hardware holes drilled today to.
Latches don't look bad to be made from a brace from a old fuel oil drum stand.Bolts will be cut to length when i get ready to do final assembly.
A unique way to do it, looking forward to seeing the final results of your project.
I have seen a couple early trucks done that way. I think it is one of the best "easiest" ways to build. Yours looks perfect! (Except for the bolts you haven't cut off yet.)
Here's what I did. You can close the tailgate by pushing it closed
Looking good. Looks like you're headed down the right road. Be sure you strip off any plating before you paint the hardware.
Hal,i like your setup as well. neat and easy~
Simple and effective. :-)
Mack, I made all of the metal stuff from stock purchased at Ace Hardware. The latch is what we used on the farm when I was a kid. Here's a broader view. I assembled the car from excess parts I had laying around...have enough for another. The picture was taken before painting and varnishing. I made the box out of Birch. I like your latch too. Ingenuity is the name of the game.
Hal- love your tailgate latch setup. I'm doing that on my next box.
Hal,may I see more of your windshield mounting setup?
I'll have to take some pictures Monday. I used angle iron after making the firewall to the width of the windshield.
Without going on a long rant,creativity and ingenuity are as worthy of preservation as our T's.
I looked at the list of hardware that came with the plans and decided I would make the hardware.It is NOT a savings of alot of cash in the big scheme of things. About 125 would have bought the hardware.To me it is the challenge of making it.
I bought some windshield brackets,and after looking at some other T's and getting some help here as well,I am just reconsidering how I want to mount the windshield. Look at some different setups and maby come up with something that won't distract from the T but would be different and foremost,sturdy. I am concerned about hauling the T on my open trailer with so little windshield support as I see on some cars.
If I knew this speedster was going to turn out as it did I would have taken more time to make it prettier. My windshield setup will withstand a good bit of pressure. I'll take a bunch of pics Monday and maybe U can pick up an idea or two from what I did. I also use an open trailer. Cheers.
That's really looking good Mack, I couldn't find your other post either . It showed your rear fenders, hacking them into shape. I did the same thing on my project, 35 dollar pair of fenders from a swap meet . Bed hardware looks really nice, I'm making everything I can too. Mine is probably made from a hundred different T's, nothing wrong with bitsa cars! JD
Nope,nothing wrong with a bitsa car at all. It is no different than making payments on 1 except the repo man don't show up to get it if you miss a payment. It just sits and waits till you work on it or buy more parts.
In regards to the project,I had made the hand rails,grab rails,whatever you call them for the sides of the seat back in November. thought I was done.
I cut the seat plywood exactly to the size in the plans. Well I put the seat in and tried to fit in the rails. Basically part of them was going to rub a spot into my seat cushion. So I am having to rework their design a bit.I am also going to move some brackets that support the seat back to the inside of the bed from inside of the seat-tank area for the same reason. i will be threading the holes in the grab rail brackets so i can do without nuts that might rub the cushion as well.
In redesigning the grab rails I am also going working on a design to make their height adjustable as I may want a arm prop as I drive.
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Hey Mack! I agree with you about bitsa Ts. The more of them put back onto the road to be seen and enjoyed, the better. I also like your comparison to the time payment plan!
Your truck is looking really good.
Mack & Hal - I have a similar tailgate latch on my '23 roadster/pickup and also on the tailgate on the little matching trailer. Mine works great, except that on two separate occasions, someone, unknown to me, just had to try out one of the tailgate latches to see how it worked, and inadvertently "yanked" on the latch too hard, and bent it so far that it (as an engineer would say) exceeded the "modulas of elasticity" !!! (....love that kinda' talk,....) In other words, some big duffas bent it so far that it would not spring back to it's original position to hold the tailgate closed. Therefore, on both separate occasions, I had to take the latch off and straighten it. After the second time, I made a little "hook" by bending a little short piece of the same size strap iron 90 deg, and installed it near the working end of the latch so as to limit the distance it could be bent to allow opening the tailgate. Now, some "gorilla" walking by the car (or trailer) who just can't resist yanking on the latch to see how it works, won't be able to bend it too far so as to damage it! Trust me guys,.....it'll happen, sooner or later,..... FWIW,..... harold
Well,no more dreading the cost of kerosene light side mounting brackets.
I had been pondering how to make them for a while now and when i stumbled over a big steel ball the other day,it all came together.
So today with 2 pieces of flat plate,a torch,a hammer,a big steel ball,plasma cutter and drill press and grinder,I have side mount light brackets.
I held the plate steel with a pair of vise grips, had the torch lightly clamped in a second vice,the ball was in the big vice. I heated a large area of the steel plate red and then pounded on it with the hammer. I used a drill bit to counter sink 2 holes in the bracket for the little round things to go into to prevent the light from spinning. Yep,still need to cut the bolts off.
They are slightly different from each other as it is hard to hand make something using a paint can to trace out a radius and such as that.But they are similar enough the naked eye aint going to know the difference.
My dad ask me why I was using a cannon ball for a anvil.I didn't know it was a cannon ball. So I guess I will photo it sometime and ask somewhere here on the net if it is a cannon ball or not.
Any how, when I am done, the windshield braces will be bolted to a bracket attached to the bolts holding the side light brackets on.Instead of to the floor.I am afraid as big as I am the rods going all the way down will get in the way.
IF this idea does not pan out,I can always go with plan B which would be rods to the floor.
Good on ya', Mack!
Thanks for sharing ,nice job!!
Light and strong just like Henry would like.
That lamp bracket looks really nice.
Mmmm, very nice lookin' lamp too. :-)
That is actually the worst of the 3 I have that are painted at all.I have several but some are rough. The other 2 are in better shape but the burner in this 1 is like new.
I might look at the led conversion and if I go that route I will paint up some of the other 1's I have that the burners are not good in.
Well here is what I came up with for a windshield brace.It is 1 inch by 1/8th I think metal.Fuel oil tank x bracing in it's former life
It seems to be steady. Opinions? As I said above I thought I would try something like this instead of a rod to the floor.
Also you can see the finished grab rail,arm rest I made instead of the round bar 1.A padded armrest will be attached to the flat top of the railing.
I got the bolts all cut off to length.
I have still got to play with the tailgate latches a bit and figure out light mounting on the rear.
But it has come along way from a bunch of boards and metal.
Since each piece of metal is made to fit each spot,I will be removing each piece separate,and will stamp a mark on a portion that will be covered when assembled with a letter stamp and hammer.This way all the pieces will go back exactly as they are.
Mack, I am not sure if they were used often or if you are trying to be original but the style of carriage bolt you are using for the side lights (and I assume other places) is what was used on most of my TT truck's assembly.
Anyways, its looking great, and you are sure making me glad that someone else made my brackets 93 years ago, that's a lot of work!
It sure is looking good!!
1 of the fellows in the local club i am in gave me about 140 of those bolts and yep,all the bolts are like those in the light mount.They have a anchor on the top, like a boat anchor.I guess it must be part of a brand name or something.
Making the brackets has been a challenge but in the end I am glad i did it. My next projects will be easier.
If I live long enough,I might build another TT and I have all the hardware for it.Copied some of it making this hardware on the back.
Looking good, Mack C, Look-ing GOOD!
Ok this is the best I could figure out for light placement.
It bugs me the turn signal is chrome a bit,rather it was black or polished out to brass but it was nos when i got it.so I don't want to ruin it.
The tail light,I am having trouble understanding something on it but you can see where it will mount.The little Monarch stop light is cute. I have a brake light switch on the starter bendix cover to operate the light.
I need to understand more about these taillights.
The 1 on the left I had on the T and had used a hose clamp to hold everything in the housing and it worked. the other 1,is missing the connector for the wires.
Is the rusty steel around the brass socket broke off of another taillight housing or what?
well I ordered a connector I hope will fit the right taillight and will go from there on it.
Last night and today I took everything off the body and I got the metal work all painted and the first coat of spar varnish on a few loose boards.
Looks great. Can't wait to see it with wheels under it
Mack, the black tail light with the missing bulb holder gives you a head start on making a matched pair of lights with side windows pointing in each direction. Just weld/solder/close up the hole you have and drill another opposite that and fit the bulb holder in that.
Allan from down under.
Mack, Here are closer looks at the windshields that I promised a few weeks ago. The brace for the red one goes to the floor. On the white one I used angle iron up the firewall with holes to match the mounting holes on the windshield. Your rig looks great...ain't it fun??
Mack, I have been following your progress all along and I am very impressed. One thing that I will suggest is using that Stop light that you have mounted on the lower left rear as a third brake light mounted in the center of the rear window. I have one just like that and I am going to mount it in the rear window on our '25 coupe. Great job on your project!! Dave
LOL, I don't think he's planning on a rear window in his open express However, point taken
Uh,rear window is uh,oops,I forgot to put that in there!
First coat of Grey Seal Kurfees Guardswood spar varnish has been applied. It is clear gloss.But,it was bought for a project of my dads and it was just sitting,so he said use it.Saved 60 bucks and there will be enough left for his project even after this is done.
Dropped off the windshield frames yesterday.Hal Davis had given me some original glass for a sample and the company that did his had the measurements on a paper.So I took that,a original glass and frame assembled so the fellow could see what it should look like and the bare painted frames and brass strip. I will know what it looks like when i git it back.Some folks tell me the brass can't be used with new glass, he says it can, I told him to mount it so if it breaks,it is on his dime!
Looking great Mack! Im with Gary S. Cant wait to see it all together. My project has had to wait because of work. Owning a business is great....
My boss wont let me work on it when I want to. I can get my progress fix by watching you and others.
I can't wait to see wheels on it either! It is about 6 foot from them at the moment!
I tell ye,I had no idea how much time it would take,but money wise,it has been much more affordable than buying a ready made kit.And I have learned some things, relearned others.