Hey guys I put together a front and back tell me what you think. I have space left on back if there is anything you can think of to add.
If we could get together and order 6000 of them it would come out to 10 cents each and of course if we order more price keeps going down. If you would be interested post how many you would like or message me and I and keep a total going and will post how low we get the price to.
Is this a mtfca project? I know your intent is good, but if not mtfca project I suggest you run this past Susan before going into production. sincerely, jb
I would love to use the universal car logo. But would we end up having problems with copyrights?
Someone please add a link to the "Hooked Another Youngin" post by Dallas. There is quite a discussion about wooden nickels on that post that shouldn't be lost and only adds to this one.
Matt, maybe, but you could pay the fine with wooden nickels.
Perhaps a line could be added "Visit the Model T Museum in Richmond Ind"
James I will contact her. Thank you
Denny I like that idea here's a updated design.
I like where you guys are going with this but remember that simple is key. Wooden nickels are quite small and the printing isn't the highest quality on them so fiddly details in pictures and text can be easily lost.
Dad always told me not to take wooden nickels. Turns out he was wrong, now they go for 10 cents.
Matt, love the concept, I'd like to suggest two things:
1. Think "Wooden Nickel" and "5 Cents" sb be added. (or some variation)
2. (Not to take away from the graphic shown and all who have touring cars) possibly a front end graphic might be more appropriate.
As an semi-homage to the motto on U.S. currency, you could include a quote from Aldous Huxley's Brave New World:
"IN FORD WE TRUST"!
I like these additions I will try and move some things around. I don't want to add to much that we lose what it says.
For those who have not read Dallas' thread, the best price I could find was on this site:
For the lower price, we get ONE side with our design. We can a one sided or two sided nickel. If we choose 2 sided, the second side is their logo. We can choose which of their logos we want and we can choose the color of ink; Red, Green, or Black. Both sides will be the same ONE color.
If we want to have both sides custom printed with Matt's design, which I really like, we will have to find another supplier and it will cost more.
For the record, I vote for Matt's design. Simple, direct, and interesting. I agree, we need to get an OK from MTFCA just to be on the safe side. They may wish to go in on the order with us.
Info to chew on:
Old Time Wooden Nickel Co.
1.5" 1000 $0.158, 50000 $0.098
Shipping on 50000 $492.73 ground
Approx 160 1.5" in one pound, 80 2" in one pound
Discounts and Additional Charges apply
Can print one or both sides, in one or more colors
1.5" 1000 $0.378, 50000 $0.182 Prices are for embossed nickels on one or both sides.
1.5" 1000 $0.307, 50000 $0.148 Printed not sure if this is for one or both sides.
Quality Logo Products Guaranteed Lowest Prices
Q11339 1.5" 50000 $0.145 one color one side
Q2143 1.5" 50000 $0.086 one color one side.
I particularly like b-token embossed nickels. These are very classy and can be done on both sides. A hole or letter can be punched in the center. Their printing looks to be very nice as well.
Old Time Wooden Nickel Co. has a great web site and more open about additional charges and shipping. Their samples look great and can be printed on one or both sides in one or more colors. There are additional discounts and charges to be considered.
When we are ready with the artwork, a representative will have to contact the companies and get a hard quote to be exactly sure of the total cost. If we order 50000 the shipping weight will be on the order of 312 lbs. Now I see the $492 shipping charge.
I urge you all to visit the web sites and look at the examples and options available and then POST your likes/dislikes in this thread.
I expect there will be two categories of us:
First; the ones who want the best and neatest
Second; the ones who want to keep the cost down.
There should be a possibility of using the artwork for BOTH categories. Maybe a double sided embossed and a single sided one color. We might be able to get that entire order from b-token or we may have to order from two separate companies.
So, there are four good possibilities. Now it's your turn to do some work. Look at these web sites and tell us what you think.
Wooden nickel is more of the time period I'm not into plastic tokens. They seem more like poker chips or casino chips. I'll stand good for my promise of the $160 but I don't think we should let this get out of hand as far as cost goes. $492 shipping to one location then they need distributed to anyone who places an order with the group. That's an additional fee. So now I see an artwork or set up fee, shipping fee, group distribution fee, etc. It has gone from $80 per 1000 to what ?
Excellent points. While a group buy will cut the cost per piece, it will up the shipping costs.
A possibility: Open an account with a supplier in a Generic name, supply the art work, then allow each of us to use that account and artwork to purchase our own wooden nickels. This way we can get what we each want/need and pay our own shipping once.
Another option: Make the art work available to anyone. Each of us could take that art work and go to a supplier of our own choice. We could purchase what ever and how many each of us wanted, without any other strings attached.
I also agree with you on the wood versus plastic. My choice: Definitely wood.
And I'll stand by Denny's $160 (1000 for me and 1000 for the Model T museum) on the other post also.
I little higher would be OK, lower would be better, but like Denny said, we shouldn't let it get out of hand.
Thank you for all the hard work.
I also agree on it being wood. It looks like we are up to 5000. This is half way to getting them at 8.3 cents each. If we order 10,000 itís 8.3 cents each +$35 shipping. Of course we would need to also have shipping to each person. I will be making some of the suggest tweaks Monday when I can get back on the computer I used to design it.
Itís a tried and true idea to garner interest in the hobby. Hereís an example I found online
What do you guys think of this back. As far as the idea for a front end view image instead of a side view does anyone have a image that would work well for that. It would need to be a black and white sketch.
I did a one off of the design in my laser engraver it was a bit off center but itís a good proof of concept. Now the ones we would order would be printed not engraved.
Has the MTFCA approved this yet?
I love it when someone goes rouge.. Wildcatting the wooden nickels.
I'd buy at least $10 worth, then maybe more when I see how fast I go through them. I think they're pretty neat.
50,000? Are you really considering that much? Just don't see it. But what do I know... I'm for the actual wood but not wild about the rear design. The 15 million line and the one after to be specific. The visit the museum line is OK as is wooden nickel and 5 cents.
Why not use official MTFCA logo on front of coin?
Message on back of coin needs work.
Model T Ford
15 Million Produced
The Universal Car
Just my opinion
I called to talk to Susan and I have not heard back yet. And I think 50,000 would be pushing it. I think Terry was just using that number for comparison of companyís. Right now given the interest we have 10,000 would be a better number to go off of.
Who does the Hershey wooden nickels? They must do a lot of them, and they are real wood. jb
I was figuring 50,000 as it was a good price break. I also thought we MIGHT be able to put together an order that large being 50 of us getting 1,000 each at $80 plus shipping. These would be printed, ONE side with a stock design on the opposite side. That vendor only custom prints one side. Other vendors will do custom on both sides and in more than one color. READ HERE; MORE expensive.
One vendor sells misprints and stock nickels by the pound with approx. 160, 1.5" nickels per pound for about $15 plus shipping. $10 would be about 100, more or less, without shipping.
If we can come to some decisions, satisfying the majority, I can come up with some prices/plans/options to present, for approval.
Matt has produced some very nice artwork. I believe any of his designs would work very well.
Personally there's no way I'd have a use for 1000 of them. I'd go for 100 but honestly even that's a stretch. I'm thinking some solid $ commitments (+ payment) will be necessary once the design is finalized and an order is drawn up.
Have you thought about contacting some of the clubs. I would think everyone would be interested
great idea. Clubs could buy more as members would purchase them I would
Matt, I'm sorry I've been out of town at the MTFCA Annual Meeting and board meeting and haven't kept up on Forum posts.
I sent you a separate email as your phone was ringing busy. Look forward to talking with you about this idea. As always, interesting to see everyone's input on the concept! We'll see what we can do!
The Hershey Region of AACA hands these out each at Hershey. You should contact them as to where they get them. Dan