I know there was a A,a F, N,R,S,T.
But I got to wondering today,in my feeble mind ramblings,what about a Ford model E or G or M?
Were there experimental models that never left the drafting table?
You dont' see mention of a Ford M or E.So there must never have been 1. BUT A fellow could have a bit of fun if he had drawings of 1 of those models that never made it off the paper.
What about the Model A and B? (There was never a Model C, that was just a part number, it was the 3rd stock head design for the 27-34 4 cylinder)
It is my understanding that all letters from A to T were used. However, many never made it past the drawing board. Only a few made it to production: A, B, F, K, N, R, S and T I believe. If someone knows better please correct me.
An interesting aside related to this subject that many of you already know: the 1928 Model A was so named in honor of the 25th anniversary of the 1903 Model A.
But the Model A came out in Oct of 1927! LOL
I am just thinking,if a fellow could get drawings of say the Model P, and replicate 1, he would have something unique.
And why the red steering wheel?
The 05 light brown catalog reprint devotes the entire rear half to the model C. A myth? None sold perhaps. I dunno.
A, B, C, F, K, N, R, S, T, A, and B?
J! Is that one of the little sixes?
Or spend some of my retirement and have a B that's coming up. That'd be unique.
Nah, I'd just get it dirty and wear it out.
:-)
Mack, this thread is near and dear to my heart.
Marketed cars, in the order they made their appearance:
A, C, B, F, K, N, R, S runabout, K Runabout, S Roadster and T.
Meanwhile, there were experimental Models G and H (Ford audit), a 16 hp air cooled four cylinder touring (at least a few making a car show or two, maybe model H), and a C based Model E delivery (Ford Directors Board meeting minutes). The first Model T ads included a Model W towncar.
And a model M, M-I, II, III and IV that I'm guessing was the Ford racer(s) between 1910-1912 (drawings exist at Benson Library).
With that said, there was no "Model AC." Parts catalogues listed many parts as "AC," as the A 10 hp and C motors and many parts were the same.
And of course there is the six cylinder Model N style prototype that Henry Ford was documented tearing around Detroit with in 1908, that still exists. Some refer to this roadster as Model J, although I've seen no period literature refering to it as "J."
Ford according to Rob....
I'm going to correct Mark on the post-T models. The Model C was a small British 10hp car, introduced 1936. One step up from the 8hp Model Y introduced in 1932. Presumably Model Y because they thought to start European models from the other end of the alphabet. Then they updated the C and it became CX. And on the Model A & B there was a small version of the engine (because of our tax system) - that became AF & BF. You could even have it in a truck - AAF & BBF.
The V8s were all numbered:18,40,48,60,62,68,78. Then the system changed again with 81A, where 8=1938, 1=85hp V8, A=passenger car. European models got an E prefix, so my 1939 Prefect was E93A, where 3=10hp.
Post war it went on another tangent. I haven't managed to decode EOTTA, the English 1950s Zephyr. Now I've gone way OT.
Complicated or what?
Rob, the Model J 6 cyl prototype is referred to as that as it actually has no. J2 stamped on the block!
Warwick,
I wonder if that refers to model number, or a part number. Is it stamped or cast. If stamped, that is interesting. What would surprise me is that Ford would reach back to the letter J. This was during the time when Ford was moving from the letter S to T (The letter "T" appeared in late 1907 advertising promoting the upcoming Model T, originally promoted as an early 1908 model).
Another thought, maybe the "small six" was originally thought of prior to the K? Then updated in late 1907 with plans to bring it out with the new T. Maybe we'll learn more about this unusual Ford prototype as drawings and information is still being discovered in the Benson Library archives?
I wish there were drawings from this six cyllinder model (Ford was rumored to be building a light six for 1908 along with the upcoming T).
A few more articles.
10-15 hp air cooled four cylinder Model H, 1904:
Six cylinder NRS type runabout prototype, 1908:
That air cooled vertical engine llooks to be a copy of a Franklin engine design.
FJ
Rob,
While looking at Records of Change at Benson Ford last week, I ran across a reference from Joe Galamb on one that referred to the Model H as a truck in 17-18-19.
A few tidbits from FMC Board meeting and audit:
FY 1905 audit entries included expenses for Models G and H. Notice the magneto expense.
One of the few Model E references I've seen is on this Oct 28, 1904 board meeting page:
A co-workers 36' Model Y not sure this counts in this conversation since it was for the European market. When Glenn first got this car I jokingly asked whether it was the 8 or 10 hp model. He said that it was the ten, but should have come with the eight. -I thought he was joking until he opened the hood.
(Sorry I didn't have a picture of the Y by its self -he seems to like collecting odd little orphan cars)
Wow,thanks for the info,Curiosity gets the better of me sometimes.
But I must admit,I like the little Citicar.I missed a chance at 1 a few years back and have been kicking myself every since.