Firewall Year?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2018: Firewall Year?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By roy palmer on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 10:18 am:

Anyone know the year for this firewall?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 11:11 am:

Just a wild guess, sometime before about mid 1914. Sometime in 1914 the cowl lights had the brackets attached to the lamps. Maybe a picture of the other side would help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden Butler on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 11:33 am:

Countersunk bolt heads on the sidelamp brackets 1911-1912. Rounded corners would be pre 1913.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden Butler on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 11:37 am:

Half round engine cutout and windshield clips attached ( no filler board) make it 1912.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Greg sarky K on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 03:31 pm:

I do not believe that is a 1912 firewall


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Syverson on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 07:38 pm:

It's kinda strange. It looks like something between a 1911 2-piece firewall and the 1912 single piece firewall. Its obviously a single piece firewall because of the windshield brackets. It looks most like a 1912 firewall with rounded top corners. Is the brass molding the flat kind or the rounded kind?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 07:59 pm:

Ray picked the rounded corners on a firewall with a fixed screen. Was there ever such a beast? My 12 has square corners, copied directly from an original, right down to the uneven screw holes for the brass edging. Might this be an early re-make from a previous restoration?

In another thread great work is going on remaking a firewall with the correct core and veneer. If this sample is made the same way, rather than in plywood, then there is an interesting conundrum.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Friday, April 20, 2018 - 11:13 pm:

I'd like to see the edge of the panel from the bottom. Can't decide if the vertical splits are along the lines of laminations. The grain seems to run vertically . . . ? No horizontal veneers ? Or were they a '13 - '14 feature only ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 12:21 am:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 08:31 am:

The brass trim looks like it overlaps the wood, so that should make it a 1911. I also only see what appears to be one hole for the carb adjustment rod, whereas original '12 firewalls had them on both sides to accomodate either LH or RH drive. I also am of the belief the top corners on '12s were not rounded as this one is. Just sayin'.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Syverson on Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 10:53 am:

The spacing of the mounting holes for the steering column indicate that this firewall is earlier than in 1912 when Ford went to the one piece dash and lowered the steering column 3/4 inch. Those 1912 firewalls have an offset hole in the steering column flange so the flanges will still bolt thru the mounting bracket. Also, the veneer grain on this firewall is vertical, something I'm not sure was ever done on a Ford firewall. I think that this is probably a replacement firewall, not made by Ford, for a 1910-11 car.


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