Old Photograph-My, what soft shoulders you have!

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dale w on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 08:17 am:

From Old Motor's collection of early Automobilist Joan Cuneo's photographs. Captioned as "Rainer and Ford Taxi."





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house . . .caldwell county, TX on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 08:29 am:

Towncar with no headlights ? Minimal rear vision with the rear window. Chauffeur must have absconded knowing he’ll probably be fired...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eckensviller - Thunder Bay, ON on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 08:31 am:

There’s one car that’s not going to town any time soon.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Watson -Florence,Colorado on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 09:13 am:

Dale,
Thanks for Posting
Always loved this photo


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dale w on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 09:41 am:

The other car is actually a "Rainier" built in Flushing, N.Y., not a "Rainer" as the caption reads.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 09:56 am:

I think the Rainer might have started in NY but then moved to Saginaw,Mich.52 years ago i started with GM in what had been the old Rainer plant built i think in 06. Every now and then the Saginaw News used to print pictures of the plant/workers,and cars. Bud who still has one of two anvils from that plant.Very nice picture!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dale w on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 10:21 am:

Yep, they moved from Flushing to Saginaw in 1908, Billy D. bought them in 1909 and by 1911 they were gone!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainier_Motor_Car_Company

You could STILL buy a Rainier in 2007, but as a Buick. I wonder if the naming committee for that model even knew of the historical connection GM had to that name?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 11:22 am:

What happened to the RR wheel?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Garland E Pobletts on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 04:05 pm:

The Rainier went first through this stretch of road and all the water made the shoulder soft ..... get it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 06:26 pm:

Dale,

Thank you for posting.

Larry,

I you can see the rear spring. I believe the hub cap is buried in the mud and the remainder of the rear wheel is hidden by the fender.

George,

Summary: the headlamps were optional on the 1909s and into 1910 for the closed cars.

Additional details:

From the 1909 Sales catalog at:
http://www.mtfca.com/books/1909cat.htm
We see head lamps were NOT standard for the 1909 Ts but the gas lamp brackets were included as standard equipment.

STANDARD EQUIPMENT: Side oil lamps, tail lamp, tube horn and gas lamp brackets. Touring Car and Roadster ironed for top.

And Bruce confirms that was accurate (sometime the sales brochures have it wrong – especially when they used a touched up illustration). From: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1909.htm
LAMPS: Side and tail lamps were standard, made by either Edmond and Jones (E&J), Atwood-Castle, or Brown (after about 10,000). Headlamps were optional, and supplied by the same firms. Prestolite tanks used on some production instead of a carbide generator.

And according to Bruce at: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1910.htm the lamps continued to be an accessory for the 1910 closed cars:
Prices effective October 1, 1909, included top, windshield, gas lamps and speedometer on all open cars.

The Town Car, Landaulet and Coupe came with oil lamps, speedometer and horn only.
Open cars could be had without this equipment (oil lamps, horn and speedometer only) for $75 less.

Note the running board that is visible has the straight uninterrupted ridges which was characteristic of the 1909 cars after the first 2500 and up to around #15,000 in the 1910 range see: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1909.htm and http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1910.htm

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Thursday, June 21, 2018 - 08:54 pm:

Larry,

Royce posted the photo below at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/228148.html?1314489217

I believe that is how deep the rear wheel on the 1909 above was sunk.



Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


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