Replacing a fuel tank on a 13 Touring

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2018: Replacing a fuel tank on a 13 Touring
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Thompson on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 12:39 pm:

Is there a secret to replacing the fuel tank on a 1913 Model T Touring short of lifting the body from the frame. She is ready to go except the leaking tank. I sure hate to ruin the upholstery or scratch the paint. Thanks Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 12:53 pm:

I got the tanks out of my '10 and my '14 without lifting the body and I would assume the '13 is the same. It takes a bit of maneuvering but was relatively easy to do.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Philip Berg on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 12:55 pm:

I replaced the tank in my 11 touring a few weeks ago, no issues. Remove the panel behind the tank, remove mounting bolts from frame and lift out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Thompson on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 02:09 pm:

Phillip, my panel seems to be wider than the body wood and not removable. Val,my tank is just big enough that it will not clear the front seat frame. I probably need an inch more width to get it up through the space. Did you guys take out an original tank? Thank you both for quick replies.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver- liberal,mo. on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 02:16 pm:

13 is all buy itself the tank was on the frame when the body was installed over the top of the tank.body was changed in 14 to let the tank come out the top. charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Thompson on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 04:49 pm:

That seems go be the case. Not good news though. Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 08:11 pm:

Too bad but you can do.it without damaging anything if you are careful. This is what we had to do to get the gas tank out of my Chalmers. No damage fortunately.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 11:29 am:

The body has to come up. I'm getting ready to do the same thing on my '13 touring. Don't try it any other way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 04:20 pm:

Nobody else has mentioned this little detail. Bodies at that time were made by several (four at least) outside suppliers. They were also made by each supplier in batches over a short time. Therefore, bodies varied in detail and dimension by supplier and batch runs. What works on some, doesn't quite work with others.
With some effort (and bruised ribs along with a lot of cussing), it should be possible to unbolt and remove the mounting brackets while the tank is inside the seat frame. Unbolt all bolts involved, lift tank slightly, and slide bracket off the end. I did that once, and no, it wasn't easy. But it may help if just that small amount is needed to clear.
Also, make notes of which way the brackets are mounted before you remove the tank. While the front to back is supposed to be reversible on the two bolt mount, it doesn't always work out that way. And the one hole bracket does have a slight offset. (And don't ask me how they go? I always have to go to great pains to figure out which way works.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 05:37 pm:

Here is a link to how to do it on an 11. Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 05:38 pm:

Sorry; Forgot to add the link
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/352446.html?1364862082


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Thompson Athens, OH on Friday, July 27, 2018 - 11:40 pm:

Well believe it or not, we did manage to replace the tank without removing the body. (Small miracle). We simply drilled a 3/8 half hole in the wood that the seat support (or the tank cover) rests on. These holes were drilled at the exact point where the lip at the ends of the tank would pull through. That let the tank pull up through the space with some pretty good tugs. The new one was just a bit smaller around and fell right in place. By the way, Chaffins Garage got a tank to us in two weeks while other sources told us several months


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 01:52 am:

Great to hear!
Thanks for the update.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 10:13 am:

That's fine if you want to ruin your seat platform. I have my body ready to lift this coming week. I can't mess up that nice original wood. What would have been better, is for Ford to have done his homework before they built the cars!
I have a '13 roadster, with a Fisher body, and the tank will come out through the top.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 02:05 pm:

If the new tanks are slightly smaller the next guy faced with the same issue can just crush the old tank enough to get it out and drop the new one in without touching the seat platform.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Wednesday, August 01, 2018 - 10:37 am:

I pulled up the body yesterday using the top irons. I didn't have it totally centered, and that caused some problems, but I did it. It's going to the local radiator shop today for a good cleaning, and to re-solder the flange for the sediment bulb.


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