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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 09:35 pm:

My daughter in Lakeport called said there is a mandatory evacuation going on there. She is going to Santa Rosa for the duration
Wish you folks the best luck


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, July 28, 2018 - 10:59 pm:

Hoping the best for your daughter.
I keep worrying and wondering about Bill Dugger in Redding (I don't have contact information for him, or wonder if I should even try? There is a huge fire started up there just a few days ago and it has grown very fast. Part of highway 299 is closed, and a few nearby small towns evacuated. Last report I heard, it was within Redding city limits and many more homes threatened.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 12:45 am:

Fire is at 84,000 acres at this point. Almost 40,000 evacuees. Five deaths. Over 3000 fire fighters, hundreds of National Guard, law enforcement. One looter caught and jailed.

I was thinking about Bill Dugger earlier today. His grandson live here in town where I am. I think I'll try to find him and get some info. Only problem is that he works for Cal Fire, so is no doubt on the lines somewhere.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 12:47 am:

Hey, what's up with my date stamp? It's Saturday evening and about 9:45, not Sunday and 12:45. How'd I get off Pacific Time?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 01:11 am:

Just spoke with a friend In Redding tonight, he is evacuated, but his house is safe. 66 houses in his subdivision burned. Another friend was not so lucky. He lost everything but his motor home and one car. His home was a bit west of Redding, he lost house , 2 model T's and I think 3 other antique cars but he is safe. The fire up there is huge and still going strong.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith McGowan - Puyallup, Wa. on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 01:28 am:

My brother and his wife decided to leave Redding today and visit relatives in the Bay area. He said it was just too iffy to stay.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 01:38 am:

Thanks for information. All of us have friends there, and information about many of them is scarce.

George Andresen, The time stamp is East coast time, regardless of your location. A lot of web sites do not adjust time stamps for contributor's locations, and the time stamp used varies from site to site. Many websites are hosted near silicon valley, and therefore use Pacific time (makes it nice for you and me!). Some, like our mtfca site, are set to some other time zone. I worked in cutting edge electronics years ago and during the early days of the internet. So I got used to that problem a long time ago. With a global "RIGHT NOW" kind of connection, there is no other simple solution. A few sites even use Greenwich Mean Time as their opinion of what everyone should do. Some truth to that idea.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 02:15 am:

I can't tell from Kim's posting if he's talking about Bill or not. We've been on the road, so haven't been able to post here. Just drove through Redding, heavy smoke from Above Lakehead through Redding.BUT we were in smoke since going through Grants Pass, OR. -- and are, of course in smoke here at home in Oroville. The full moon is blood red. a
Besides Bill, I've been wondering about an old Friend (with a Model A) whose home was in Old Shasta, but don't know if he was still living there. Old Shasta was hard hit by the fire, including at least one gold rush era building.
And now there are fires (again) in the Napa area, apparently.
BTW, the Redding fire was apparently started by a vehicle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 04:49 am:

I have also been wondering how our CA. friends are doing. Hope all is well for them. Best wishes, Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 06:02 am:

Paul V, Any more news on your daughter?
And guys, her fire is a different one than the one near Redding. CA seems to be in for another bad fire year.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 10:13 am:

Wayne....thank you for the explanation. I guess I just never noticed it before.

I have a family member in the Redding area, but he lives to the north east of the fire so at this point he's safe. He told me that he DID pack and gas up his car just in case though. This fire is not only huge, it's also erratic in behavior with all the gullies, draws and canyons in the area.

I live in Alturas, about 180 miles east of the fire and our skies are a dirty orange-brown from the smoke. I truly pray that any members in the fire area are safe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 11:37 am:

Wayne no news yet--- She went through the Santa Rosa fire months past then spent lots of time helping folks in need at the Kizser hospital---just finished her rental home in Lake Port-----hope she has good insurance with two homes to insure.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don - Conroe, TX on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 11:45 am:

Prayers for those going through this awful stuff.

It seems to be a bit like the hurricanes we endure here on the Gulf Coast. The disaster is relatively slow moving (compared to something like a tornado) yet unstoppable.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nevada Bob Middleton on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 04:08 pm:

Hope all the best to those effected
The smoke on this side of the Sierras is heavy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Neil Kaminar on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 05:50 pm:

Map and latest info at

https://mappingsupport.com/p2/gissurfer.php?center=40.635446%2C-122.509423&zoom= 11&fire=CA%2CCarr

My wife has a hiking trip to Mount Shasta staying in Redding scheduled in a couple weeks. Probably have to cancel or find another town to stay in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Neil Kaminar on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 06:01 pm:

News says it was caused by a malfunctioning vehicle. Anybody know what that is about?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 06:14 pm:

Neil, Stay in Dunsmuir at Cave Springs (had to put in a plug for the family resort. He's over loaded with Redding "refugees" right now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Bente on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 06:15 pm:

Things are calm here for the time being. The fire has been active late afternoons,and into the night hours. Last night not the growth as in the past 2 nights. Itís burned thru the main part of the west side of town, which has hills and more vegetation burning houses mostly in the outlying edge.

Bill Duggar is fine, just talked with him via telephone. I can also confirm the demise of a 1913 and 1914 touring along with some other neat cars.

If the inversion lifts, expecting increased fire activity. If a smoke plume develops, hard to tell where it will go.
B.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 08:34 pm:

My daughter could no get to Santa Rosa---grand daughter and great grand
children are without electric in Willetts but OK-- Its hard to imagine how bad the area is with our weather not yet 80 degrees. Stay safe- take care.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 08:58 pm:

Robert, thank you for the information about Bill Duggar. Paul, from what I can see on the news many of the roads are either blocked or have heavy fire traffic. Being without electricity in this weather is lousy luck, but they're all okay and that's what's important.

I understand another victim has been found, bringing the death toll to six. Let's all pray it doesn't get any higher.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 10:38 pm:

Good to hear about Bill, there are still dozens missing, so be prepared for more.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick in Florida on Sunday, July 29, 2018 - 10:54 pm:

My prayers go out to all the people in the line of fire. I heard they caught an arson in the act of starting a fire and suspect he is responsible for several more of the fires. If true, he should be handed over to the homeowners who lost their homes, so as to allow them to extract their pound of flesh, literally. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 05:00 pm:

The latest news for those with interest----daughter made it to Santa Rosa the long way fires are about six miles from her Lake Port homes the worst usually comes around 4 pm when the winds pick up----said they are blowing toward her homes, six miles is not far with these fires. Take care don't take chances.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 05:53 pm:

Thanks for the update Paul V. Hoping for the best for your daughter and family.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick in Florida on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 06:27 pm:

I have never experienced this type of tragedy. Before evacuating, would turning on the irrigation system and pointing the sprinklers at the house help to curtail the flames? How about rigging up sprinklers on the roof to keep the roof wet. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 07:46 pm:

Jim.....I've been through two forest fires in Shasta County, although up in the Fall River area. We were told to evacuate by the Sheriff's Office and the last thing I did was to nail my biggest Whirly Bird sprinkler to the chimney top. I turned it on full bore and prayed we wouldn't lose power for the well pump.

We were allowed to return the next day and the fire had burned right up to the big trees behind the house and stopped due to being soaked. The only damage was to my porch decking getting warped by the water....but the house was fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick in Florida on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 08:19 pm:

Great George. Iím glad that worked for you and you did not lose your house. How did your neighbors fare? Why do you suppose more people donít incorporate sprinklers in their evacuation plans? Even if some are paralyzed to inaction by fear and hopelessness, or think it is foolish and fruitless to attempt to fight Mother Nature, at least trying is better than doing nothing. You are proof of that. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 09:20 pm:

My prayers go out to all under the gun with these fires. Not only in the U.S.A., but all over the world, Greece, Norway, even Germany are affected by them this year!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Monday, July 30, 2018 - 09:25 pm:

Problem is most power lines are high on a poll in other words first to heat and burn. I have heard that some in the Santa Rosa fire had installed large tanks above there homes these were high income properties


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Monday, August 06, 2018 - 11:05 am:

My daughter was allowed back to her homes yesterday after eight days of evacuation. She is very lucky--It sounds like many were not as lucky.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, August 06, 2018 - 12:50 pm:

The news reports of the Carr fire near Redding was started when a tire flew off a trailer and the rim made sparks along the pavement.

I hope and pray that the fires will soon be out and no more devastating fires will start. This is the hottest driest year I can remember and I have lived in California for over 80 years. We are south almost to the Mexican border so away from those fires, but I live in the mountains with much brush around here. I have been trying to clear as much as possible around our property. Biggest problem here is around October and November when the dry Santa Ana winds come off the desert from the northeast.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 04:18 am:

Rooftop sprinklers worked really well for friends of ours in the Adelaide Hills. Their setup was self contained. The house gutters returned all run off back to their 30 000 gallon concrete tank. Rather than an electric pump, theirs was a small petrol engined pump. They lost all their nursery stock, but the house was unharmed.

The pump ran out of fuel just as they got back to the house. Asked if he had any improvements in mind his only response was to replace a short length of plastic pipe with copper like the rest of his system, and possibly replace the petrol motor with a diesel.

There have been calls for building in fire prone areas to make it mandatory for such systems to be installed. It hasn't happened yet.

Allan from down under.


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