1927 TT - End of the Road

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2018: 1927 TT - End of the Road
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Grant J Barlow on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:06 pm:

So I have been working to get this TT, which sat for 14 +/- years, started. Rebuilt the bendix, new upper water outlet & belt, new head gasket, rebuilt carb, and now the 'coup de grace' - the starter is bad.
I was out of my league doing what I've done but replacing the starter is way beyond my mechanical abilities. If it was any other car, I could replace the starter. But since Henry didn't want to pay royalties, I am stuck with an absurd design unlike any other car ever made.

So, the end has come. I am going to (try) sell this as is and get what I have in it back.

Thank you for all your help. I could not have done what I did without this Forum

Grant Barlow
East Dubuque, Illinois


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:08 pm:

Why can't you replace the starter? It's a very easy job


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:09 pm:

Grant, if you rebuilt the Bendix, starter R&R should be easy for you. Sorry to see you deciding to sell


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:10 pm:

Remove the bendix. Four screws hold the starter. Done


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Grant J Barlow on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:26 pm:

The bendix was not fun. It was probably the most difficult assembly I have ever done in my life, and I have assembled some pretty complicated equipment, both in the USAF and in the Research Labs I worked in.
No way do I want to deal with that again. I'm through.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eckensviller - Thunder Bay, ON on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:31 pm:

You could always just crank it. My starter won’t turn over a cold engine but my arm works just fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Mc Willie on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:37 pm:

Part of the fun of owning an antique car is learning how to work on it. Between the help of this forum and possible someone in a local car club, this should be a straight forward and non-time consuming task.

If you aren't having fun working on your truck, maybe it is time to pass it along to someone who will.

Antique cars are a great hobby, but they are not for everyone.

Most of my friends and business colleagues are avid golf players and do not understand why I don't partake in the game. Like old cars, playing golf isn't for everyone either!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:39 pm:

Uh,there is a such thing as asking for some help from a local club. I would hate to think there was no 1 near enough to help switch out a starter.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:43 pm:

Tim said what I was going to say. Just crank it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Grant J Barlow on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:45 pm:

I like old cars, I have 3, the TT, a 66 Corvair,and a 90 Mercedes-Benz.

I have always wanted a pre-war car, not necessarily a Model T, let alone a TT. The only reason I bought it was the person who I knew from business, was dying and needed the money. I thought I knew what I was getting into, but all the setbacks of trying to start the car is wearing thin. It is no longer fun.

Not only do I need to change the starter, which by the way, the instructions I saw stated I would have to remove the oil pan and maybe more, was why I am 'throwing in the towel'.
I also need to replace the tires (already purchased).

So that is why I bought it and why I'm ready to sell.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Grant J Barlow on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:46 pm:

Reason for not cranking: I am 69 and have severe asthma. I don't need an attack from trying to start an old car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 02:48 pm:

Grant tried it, it's not pleasant for him, no use insisting. Like "Jumanji" . . . Fun for some, not for all. Thanks for being a good sport and giving it a try Grant ! Best wishes. You probably won't get hurt financially.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andy Loso St Joseph, MN on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 03:34 pm:

The oil pan doesn't have to be removed, just the engine pan if it is still installed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Myers on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 04:09 pm:

Grant,
I just sent you a PM.
Randy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 04:17 pm:

You must not have tried to remove and replace the third main with the crankcase in place? Much harder than to replace a starter.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, August 15, 2018 - 06:14 pm:

When in doubt read the instructions. When working on old cars in the past I always used a instruction manual especially when it's the engine.
The "pan" is the sheet metal engine pan that needs to be removed if it's still attached to get to the screws that hold the starter on the transmission cover.
The Model T Service manual has all the information you need.
The absurd design that Henry Ford used for the Model T literally put America on whelels. It's explained in the manual.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep on Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 01:14 am:

I'm so confused, how can you not remove the starter? I can remove mine in 15-20 minutes! And you think the bendix is hard? Mines only hard to remove because the shaft is mushroomed from someone hitting it with a hammer. And half my bendix is home made. After it's off there's only 4 screws and 1 wire to remove and it slides out.

Or maybe you're talking about a completely different type of vehicle, like a ford mondao or something.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Noonan - Norton, MA. on Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 01:47 am:

Grant, don't give up!. Sometimes its just best to just walk away for a bit when you get frustrated, and come back to it with a clear head. Good Luck.


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