A foriegn friend needs help with very rare very early pan and hogshead

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2018: A foriegn friend needs help with very rare very early pan and hogshead
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 05:50 am:

Brice Chalancon, in France, some may remember found and acquired some of the remains of an early 1909 model T a couple years ago. He has posted a thread asking about some parts of the pan and hogshead, and wanting to know the best way to fix some maybe broken pieces? His photos are not very good, too close up, however, it appears to be a very early pan with the dam near the rear of the block, and a stamped sheet steel hogshead with the small square door.
What little I can see of the parts, they actually look to be in very nice condition. I am no expert on the first few thousand model Ts, but the parts appear to likely be correct to me. They also look to be in remarkable condition. One bolt hole (?) in the pan appears to be missing (welded up?). I do not know those early pieces well enough to know what I am looking at.

It is bad that a few of our best authorities on the earliest parts have backed away or been driven off. But if Kim D or one of the others could respond to his questions or send him a PM or two? It would be nice.

A direct link (I hope) to his thread,

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/822076/899604.html?1537522407


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 10:48 am:

If memory serves me, it was the remains of a two lever?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins So Cal on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 11:03 am:

Wayne, Iím in contact with Brice, I got him a fan but havenít see the pictures. I believe his project is a 2 lever.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins So Cal on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 11:07 am:

From what I can see his pan and pressed steel hogs head look pretty nice.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 01:54 pm:

I remember it as a two lever very early 09.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 02:59 pm:

Thank you Kim, Darel, and Gary also. I was fairly sure I remembered it being a two lever also. That would make it one of the first 2500 model Ts built. Any help with information we can give him would be good to help getting another rare early T back on the road.
I know he doesn't have the entire car. As I recall, it was enough for a really good chance at resurrecting the car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick in Florida on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 03:11 pm:

Two lever?! Geez! That is a real historical treasure! I wonder what the VIN number is. Anyone who can offer to help Brice in every possible way to keep this project moving forward, should offer it. Thank you. Jim Patrick

PS. I hope Brice will take and post lots of pictures of this car (only not so closeup) detailing the progress. It might make a good book someday.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 05:01 pm:

Here was his first post in 2012 on his 2-lever T

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/322425.html?1356826982


Again update in 2013 and last 2017

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/344427.html?1370812637



http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/322425.html?1356826982


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Friday, September 21, 2018 - 05:10 pm:

Oops

Wrong link, here is the 2017 update on Brice's 2-lever.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/730730.html?1488738864


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