What is the best way to remove rust from cast iron.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick in Florida on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 01:41 am:

I have always used muriatic acid to remove rust from steel as it attacks and dissolves the rust and leaves the steel unaffected, however, cast iron is a different story. Maybe it's due to the impurities, but muriatic acid not only attacks and dissolves the rust, it attacks and dissolves the cast iron.

What is the best way to remove rust from cast iron without destroying it in the process? Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 05:24 am:

Jim, molasses works well on steel and cast iron. However, you do need to watch cast iron or it will also etch impurities out of the cast. Sounds like your muriatic acid, but a slower, more controllable process.
The feed grade molasses I use is mixed at 40% with water. Warmth helps the process. the parts will need treating/painting immediately they are dry.

Hope this helps,
Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 06:49 am:

Media blasting works for me. JMHO Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brad Marble - New Hamshire on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 08:31 am:

The only process that I have found effective is abrasive blasting,I use a blast booth and glass bead abrasive.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willis Jenkins on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 08:55 am:

Evapo-Rust?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jesse L. Ashcraft on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:17 am:

Wire brush on a cordless drill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3FpvWdZ8Zk


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jeff Humble Northern Michigan on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:35 am:

Depending on size and shape, sand blast or electrolisis is what I do.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:57 am:

I'm with Jesse.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:59 am:

I used to wire brush the rust off of parts, but once I got an air compressor and a blasting cabinet I found that blasting did a quicker and more thorough job. I have always used aluminum oxide media, but do a search on "blasting media mtfca" and you will find plenty of threads with other recommendations. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 10:27 am:

To me depends on the part, media blasting, esp. sand, can stick in places and be hard to remove.

For this T jack, cast and steel, found that a 4 day dip in 40% water/molasses did the trick. Sand blasting that screw and gear and hollow crevices in the body is a lot more work :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 11:20 am:

What kind of molasses did you use and where did you get it. Also does the part begin to rust quickly?
Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 12:06 pm:

What is ‘feed grade’ molasses?
Where can I get some.
I am rebuilding a 302 V8 and the intake manifold has rust inside the runners.
I would say dunking it in mole asses would be the best way to clean it out.
Mix in water and get it out as soon as the rust is gone.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Andreasen on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 02:23 pm:

Ironic........I just came in from sandblasting my very rusty three dip pan.

Abrasive blasting works well on all but the lightest sheet metal, as the media tends to heat/warp the surface. It CAN be done at an angle, but takes much longer. The only drawback to abrasive blasting is that you must be sure to remove ALL the blasting media. Nothing like a half cup of sand in your engine to ruin your weekend.

Cast iron can be sandblasted without any problem, however since I discovered the joys of electrolysis I only use it on object too big for a tank....such as this pan. Electrolysis only requires a plastic vessel, washing soda (not baking soda) a sacrificial anode (junk sheet metal) and a battery charger. Hook it up, walk away. That's it. ALWAYS hook the negative lead to the object being derusted...think "negative, remove rust". Hooking up the positive lead will remove metal, leaving pits. Leaving it in the solution for "too long" doesn't hurt a thing since it stops working once the rust is removed. There's tons of info available on the net. Pick the simplest setup and try it on a small part. Oh, it will loosen bolts that are frozen with rust too.

I've tried molasses also, but it takes longer and draws flies like you wouldn't believe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 06:18 pm:

Aaron:

Here in Minnesota, I buy feed grade molasses at Mills Fleet Farm - hunters use it to attract deer:

https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/evolved-habitats-1-gal-old-fashioned-molasses/0 000000005654?Ntt=molasses

In your area, you can probably get it at a farm store or any place that caters to livestock owners or hunters.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 07:19 pm:

Seems like there was a guy that posted on the forum some pictures on the forum of a place that used large vats of the molasses mix to derust large body parts and etc. Haven't seen any info about it since.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 08:53 pm:

Evapo-Rust works great. Available at Tractor Supply and similar stores.


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