Putting out a fire

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2018: Putting out a fire
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By RJ Walworth, New York on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:08 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house . . .caldwell county, TX on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:16 pm:

Wow! Thatís an interesting pic! The best Model T water pump ever made ! Running off the crankshaft? Requires a water source - tanker truck or stock pond. Interesting Ďnon Fordí? rear window giving more visibility.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:39 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Pawelek Brookshire, Texas on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:47 pm:

On the first picture is that some kind of small cow bell hanging off the front axle?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hanlon N.E.Ohio on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 05:59 pm:

Saving basements since 1919....lol


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Derocher on Friday, November 02, 2018 - 09:59 pm:

I wonder if you could hand crank through the water pump, and pull the hand crank out or was it just electric start?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house . . .caldwell county, TX on Saturday, November 03, 2018 - 09:24 am:

Probíly electric. No cowl lamps....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, November 03, 2018 - 09:58 pm:

George -- the photos above do not have the cowl light brackets so yes, they were electric start from the factory (unless the windshield was replaced).

But page 129 of Robert C. Kreipke's book "The Model T" shows a 1919-1922 (straight windshield and wishbone below the axle) roadster with the cowl light brackets. So if the windshield brackets were original to the car -- it would have been a non-starter car.

In the photo in Kreipke's book, it appears to have an extension that sticks out past the pump where a removable hand crank may (or may not) have been available to start the engine? Reminds me of the later 1928-31 Model A Fords that have the removable hand crank. But there was not enough detail in the photo and no explanation of how you would hand crank it. But it looks possible to me.

In the first photo of this thread note that the lower hole lines up with the crankshaft. I think that is where a removable crank would be inserted.

Respectfully submitted,

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