Hello,
I'm needing dimensions of wood bed floor pieces for 1925 roadster pickup bed.
Perhaps Larry Smith can help, he has a very nice 1925 pickup.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/86880.html?1239027671
Clay: This data came from Steve Coniff and fits an original '25 Ford T pick up box.
The two outer boards are 7 1/4" wide and 53 1/8" long. They have a 1/4" rabbit cut on the outside edge that is 13/16" wide.
The three center boards are 5 3/4" wide. Two are 53 1/8" long but the one that butts to the battery box is only 42 5/8" long.
The two long boards that are on either side of the battery box are narrowed about 1 3/4" for the last 10 1/2" to accept the metal battery box cover.
All board stock is 13/16" thick. The best info I could get was that it was all hard pine/southern yellow pine. Hope this helps. Your body may vary a bit so some dimensions will change. Bill
Let me know if you have problems, but it appears the information from Bill is correct since he did his just after I did. Don't use oak, or varnish your boards. It is not correct!
Thanks Guys!
The last photo is my truck after re-wooding.
Clay, hope this helps, not sure how long these photos will be available because I see that some of my posts have been deleted for some reason??
John Warren, Thanks for the pictures. Would you have any of the under side?
Not sure if mine is all there.
Also, do they repop these bed strips and battery cover for this bed?
I have rebuilt a couple model A beds, and they have a channel along side for entire length in each board for the lip of metal bed strip to rest in. Is that correct for the 25 bed?
Thanks for the help!
Clay, I was able to order the strips un-drilled, I think from Macs.
I have an extra battery cover (new)
There is no 'channel' for the bed strips. The bed strips are unique to the 1925's, and are quite difficult to find. The battery trap doors are currently available, and are nice, except they didn't roll over the finger hole enough. The left and right boards have about a 3/32 rabbet on the outside edges. All boards are painted black. The square metal plates for each bolt are available from Mack Products in Missouri. The carriage bolts all use a 1/4-20 square nut, 1/2" across the flats, raven finished.
I am looking for 1925 bed strips if anyone has some that they are willing to part with
Arron, probably you're going to have to find someone with a long brake and a little talent to take regular bed strips and crown the center of the strip. It won't be 100% correct, but it will be better than 90% of the others out there.
If anyone out there would be willing to re-shape the current flat ones using the proper rollers, I'm sure it could be done.
Ford didn't do his homework on that one!
I am still trying to avoid making them. Not that it’s impossible for me just trying to make it 100% looks as much as I can.
Clay, The bolts that are missing in the first two photos are missing because you have to take those out to get the bed off. So those go through the back deck also. The first two photos are not of my bed but like always stated.. worth a thousand words. The 1925 is definitely a transitional year and this especially true for the first Roadster Pickup. The body changed some, carburetor controls, tire sizes, wheel types. Mine is an example of the first one offered. Larry probably has the nicest 25 pu in existence because he has done his homework . I am sure he can tell us what is right and wrong. I used weathered wood because I wasn't going to restore it, just use it. I will be installing upholstery , putting a new top on it ,and changing the tail lights to period correct ones. It does gets a lot of attention.
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I did my homework all right. Steve Coniff has the first real '25 pickup I ever saw, and I decided to model mine after his, which is a late one. It has many 1926 features too, just like Steves. I'm on the road now, and don't have access to my pictures. I'll try to post some later.
I believe that p/u bed posted above is one that Kim Dobbins owned awhile back? Here are some photos of my car, which was put together entirely from parts. It took about 3000 miles for all those mechanical parts to get used to each other. The frame came from Elko, Nevada, and the engine block came from St.Cloud, Minnesota. All of the engine components, steering, and all were all separate parts. The bed, which started it all I got locally, and was rust free.
WOW Larry, Such a beauty! Do you have the tool box behind the fuel tank? I Talked to Steve Coniff for about an hour when I started working on my 25. Thanks for sharing.
very nice!
Thanks for sharing!
This was a project a few years back.
Yes, my car has the tool box in back of the gas tank. It is very handy. I use it for a few spare coils, plus I have my side curtains rolled up in there in an original Ford side curtain roll. It has all the late features that you won't see on a March 1925. I now have over 5,500 miles on this car, and it's a delight to own and drive. All of the used parts have now gotten used to each other.
I made my own using these.
After looking at the photo above of the pickup bed, I recognize the yard in the photo. That box is in Kim Dobbins yard! The information above is not for a 1925, and should be disregarded. As mentioned above, the thickness of the Southern yellow Pine is 13/16".
While on Royces website this morning, there was a photo of a junk yard somewhere, and it clearly shows a 1925 pickup from the rear.
A couple more things I've learned about '25 pickup beds: The hinge bolt's oppose each other, whereas the 26-7 bolts go in the same direction. The tailgates remain the same through 1928 on the Model A's, but after that Ford redesigned the hinge because the T style were weak at the bottom. Other than that a Model A tailgate will work up through 1930.
Battery cover is the same for Ts and As. They are repoed for As. I put one for a 28 Model A on my T. Fit perfectly.
Larry Smith do you have your research on a computer file or something. I will have my 25 pick up on the road for next summer but as time goes on I want appropriately fixed and improve my earlier attempts at restoring the truck and I have been able to slowly dig things up. If there is info you are willing to pass along I would be greatly appreciated it.
Aaron. I'll be happy to help you with anything I can. My computer skills are out to lunch. Most of what I know is in my head. There are definite differences between early '25 pickups and late ones, but not so much in the pickup bed itself. Most of the differences are in the roadster body alone, and there are a number of differences.
I did an article for the Vintage Ford around 2010, but don't recall the month. The editor lost many of the original photos that I submitted for the article.
I do understand there were differentials between early and late and believe mine is later. Do you ever come this way I could pick you brain
It is volume 44, number 3, 2009....excellent article. A 1925 Runabout (June 27, 1925) followed me home in September and I’m thinking about making it a pickup....if I can find an original bed. Anyone know of one for sale? Thanks
Vince, PM sent.
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