New Fuel System Accessory

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2018: New Fuel System Accessory
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, November 24, 2018 - 03:03 pm:


Bend 3/32" welding rod just so.


Hook it over the kick panel.


Keep your fuel gauge out of the way but handy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Saturday, November 24, 2018 - 03:12 pm:

Like!

Once put mine under the floor mat.

Went to check fuel and it was missing. Fell through the crack between the big board and the heel panel ..


Going to make one of those Jelf Dipstick Jigs!.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Williams, Hillsboro Oregon on Saturday, November 24, 2018 - 03:12 pm:

Awesome Steve.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Idaho Falls on Saturday, November 24, 2018 - 09:34 pm:

I was in suspense til the last photo. It's a great idea and makes the stick a conversation piece for the populace.
Ingenuity abounds at your place.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Cibolo, Texas on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 12:06 am:

Will it work for any body style? I don't see it working on enclosed cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 09:25 pm:

Since I have to lift up the seat cushion to check the gas anyway, why do you find this necessary? To me it is distracting, and doesn't look very good either!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 09:43 pm:

Ah, another controversy! It doesn't distract me in the least, and I think it looks fine. I dislike having the stick under the seat where: 1 it often seems to find its way under a pile of other stuff, or 2 once even fell through onto the ground.

Terry, it's freezing out, so I'm not going to go find out.
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George n LakeOzark,Missourah on Sunday, November 25, 2018 - 10:53 pm:

Ah c'mon Steve ! Be a sport. :P


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 10:37 am:

Terry, should work anywhere the cowl kick panel is "free" at the top. Won't work on my '13, the interior panel between the door and the dash is tacked down, won't admit the hanger.

Like Larry, I've no problem stowing the "gauge" under the seat. The hinged panel over the gas tank won't allow it to fall to the ground. It is a clever idea, and a hook like that could be useful for other purposes too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 10:48 am:

Rich, that is sure a strange looking gas cap. Would you mind posting more pictures of it? The '13 gas caps were aluminum with a vent hole in the middle between the ears.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Monday, November 26, 2018 - 12:14 pm:

Probably a repro ? Feels like cast iron, vent hole is off to the side.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenneth w delong on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 08:34 am:

I like it,cheap,simple,and while i have never had a problem with mine under the seat i might bend one if i still have brazing rod. Cold here but the 6 to 1 mix of corn and cherry pits is doing the job!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Pawelek Brookshire, Texas on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 09:09 am:

Steve, Does your gauge use AA’s or a CR123?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Codman on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 10:26 am:

That is a great idea! I'm going to make one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 10:56 am:

Rich: That is a late teens gas cap, and is original. Use it until you can find an aluminum one. The aluminum ones are the same. The vent hole for a '13 is centered, for a '14 and later it is offset like your cast iron one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John E Cox on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 01:35 pm:

Larry,
Here is a picture of my 15 gas cap.
It non ferrous and has a valve STC.
Maybe had trouble with the fuel line plugging and
would blow it out?
1915 fuel tank cap


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Longbranch,WA on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 02:23 pm:

Most likely to "pressurize" the tank for an upcoming hill !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 02:55 pm:

And likely a very bad idea.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Longbranch,WA on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 03:21 pm:

Kinda difficult to "pressurize" being a vented cap !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 03:37 pm:

Rich B - why do you think pressurizing the tank for fuel delivery to the carburetor is a bad idea? It was often used with a hand pump on early speedsters and racers, sometimes even on production cars, but then with pressure from the exhaust system (!)

The key is it doesn't need much pressure to flow good - just one or two psi. Works best when the tank level is down at half and lower - then the air pressure doesn't need to be added as often.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Bingham, Blackfoot, Idaho on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 04:11 pm:

Roger, not a bad idea in theory, and properly applied. However, fairly early on the idea was abandoned by manufacturers who used it (1916 Packard Twin Six comes to mind) because in the event of a mishap, unlike a vacuum tank or a mechanical pump, fuel will continue to flow from a leaky connection or a ruptured line, and that can be very dangerous.

In the case of a Model T, since the fuel line, connections and applicable carburetors are designed for no more fuel pressure than gravity exerts on a full tank, you may expect problems from fittings and the float valve. Humid beans being how we are, if one or two PSI is good, then ten or twenty HAS to be ten times better, right ?

OK, I'll amend my comment from "a very bad idea" to a "questionable" one, which needs to be applied with a heavy dose of common sense ! I know a lot of speedster guys pressurize their gas tanks. Fun for some, not for all ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 04:15 pm:

Roger - You reminded me of something, and also, gave me what might be a "novel" idea that might even work!

I used to work for a guy who had a "company car" and was very big on having a pretty good "emergency kit" in his trunk, especially in wintertime in Montana!

Along with the obvious, like water, chocolate bars, blanket(s), etc. he gave some thought to the possibility of a flat tire. (.....admittedly, this was years ago when tires were not as good as nowadays).

What he did was, he had a length of air hose, probably at least about 16-18 feet long, and he put one of those "clamp-on" tire inflation chucks on each end of the hose. Then he would "over-inflate" his spare tire to about double the normal pressure, and with his theory that most flat tires were a fairly slow leak, he would attach one end of the air hose to the over-inflated spare in the trunk, and the other end to the flat tire, and let them "equalize". A pretty good idea I always thought, and it seems like it would work well in a Model T (or any antique car), especially with side mounted spare tire(s). For what it's worth,......harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 04:18 pm:

......obviously, I meant for a bit of air pressure for a nearly empty tank when encountering a hill, as well as for a low, or flat tire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Keppler, Fredon NJ on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 07:27 pm:

Steve if you didnt bend the rod "just so" would it still hold the stick?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 10:30 pm:

Probably so, but it might not establish a good enough ground to drain off the excess positrons. You don't want that stick full of static electricity when you stick it in the tank.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C west central, MN on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - 10:55 pm:

:-) I don't want a Debbie Downer (Haha! How about a Duane Downer!!!) on me but you do know that stick will wear your "Fine Corinthian Leather" upholstery as it wiggles and sways... ;-)
Mr Jelf says back "Ya, so what?" shrugs his shoulders and moves on. :-)
Neat idea Steve! I like it and might copy it!


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