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Model T Ron

Ron understand that only a tiny fraction of MTFCA members frequent the forum. Simply asking here about interest in a local chapter means you are missing 90% of potential interested hobbyists. As someone who helped organize a now-significant club in Florida, I will reinforce the need to contact Kath...

Model T Ron

Ron, You should talk with Kathy Tagert as she is the new chapter co-ordinator for the MTFCA. Her phone number is 850-585-3631 and her email is ktagert@cox.net. She will be happy to tell you all about how to start a new chapter, etc. Keith Thanks Keith I will give her a call but I still wanted to se...

Model T Ron

It looks like the Tarheel T's are the only NC Model T Club Chapter. If we have interest I would like to get a Chapter going in the Lake Norman Area. I drive about 1500 miles a year but I seem to to be the Loan Ranger as I am always driving solo. Not sure how many people would be interested or how ma...

Model T Ron

I have a Warford in my 1915 Touring and love it. If you want to drive in the 40 to 45mph range the Warford makes this very possible and the engine will not be overworked in anyway. With a Warford you get the best of all three worlds as you have low original and high gearing. If I am going under 35 I...

Model T Ron

Don ellis wrote: ↑
Thu May 18, 2023 12:18 pm
I have a few, I'm near Greensboro. Anyone close enough come and ride with us, Tarheel T's

Hey Don
Any chance the Tarheel T's sometime ride out a little closer to Troutman? If so I would love to join you someday. I have an excellent driver and would like to rack up some miles.

Ron

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Bill Anziani wrote: ↑
Wed May 17, 2023 11:21 pm
I also have a 24 coupe, and live in Concord, NC right off of George Lyles

That's great. So tell me more about your 24 Coupe.....how many miles do you put on in a given year? Do you know of any more T's in our area?

Model T Ron

Just looking to see if anyone with a T is near me. I live in Troutman, NC about 40 miles north of Charlotte.

Model T Ron

So is anyone running LED Headlights? If so can you give the model information and a little review for us guys without them?

Thanks
Ron

Model T Ron

My 1915 Touring is well sorted and has a WarFord along with rear brakes so when driving on back roads I hold around 40 and seem to do just fine.....my car will go over 50 but to me that's not safe as a T can not react under speeds that fast :roll: :roll: :roll: . Some people get upset and pass me bu...

Model T Ron

It would depend on how old they were. At 20 years old I would replace them just to be sure unless you do not mind the chance of a flat. Rubber ages and will crack with time. That said I just changed a set of tires on my Model A that were 10 years old and I reused the tubes.

Model T Ron

Who offers the one shown above for $9.50?

Model T Ron

Do I need to with 50/50 mix?

Model T Ron

Anyone have a photo of one?

Model T Ron

I got an aluminum Z head on my 24 Coupe and I wanted to know if anyone had issues with corrosion over time. I am running 50/50 mix like recommended so I hope that does the trick over time to prevent corrosion of the head.

Model T Ron

It is a very nice car but when you could buy 4.5 1915 Touring cars for the same price its going to take a very well to do person to buy this fine example of a center door.

Model T Ron

A GOOD paint job nowadays will cost in the range that Matt said you could buy an entire car! Some engine rebuilds alone can run $4K-$7K. Tim I think prices have only went up with inflation and have been flat for many years. A Model T is never a good investment in dollars but it is a very good inves...

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I don't think prices have changed much and I am very happy for that. The absurd values that has infected some segments of the collector car hobby attract some who have no real interest in the vehicle except as an investment or status symbol and price out those who have a more personal interest. I b...

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Hey Randall
Very nice video and it confirmed what I was hoping it would. I got an afordable filter on my 29 Phaeton and its funny how some A guys love them and some not so much. Next time someone tells me the filter is worthless I am going pull up this video and prove them wrong.

Ron

Model T Ron

Would it be possible to just take off the rear wheels, disconnect the spring and split the axle to get to the thrust washers?

Model T Ron

Ron you will probably be doing yourself a favor by finding and fixing the noise, but a cheapy endoscope will get in and let you see one of the thrust washers...if one id babbit the other probably is, too, and vice versa with bronze... Scott I agree that just finding and fixing the noise would be th...

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Ron for info: no one makes a true Hyatt replacement...Hyatts are a flat ribbon wound into a roller and they will flex with the axle. Any direct replacement, modern bearing, is solid and will not flex. They are safe to use by the differential, but are not considered (by most people) to be safe alter...

Model T Ron

I was looking on Texas T Parts and they offer modern style bearings ... [/size] In the MTFCA Axle book Glen is impartial on whether to use the original pinion bearing or the FP replacement. I will go with the FP bearing every time. For axle bearings I will stick with original Hyatts. I'm not famili...

Model T Ron

So the rear axle is making a grinding sound and you're sure it hasn't been rebuilt? I wouldn't waste time on draining and flushing. I'd get that sucker out of there, split it open, and fix what needs fixing. The MTFCA Axle book tells you in step-by-step detail what to do. https://dauntlessgeezer.co...

Model T Ron

I was looking on Texas T Parts and they offer modern style bearings, longer axles, 3:1 ring and pinion and more. Has anyone built an axle with the parts mentioned? The engine on my 24 is very strong and I am sure she could pull the 3:1 gear. This is about the same gearing as Warford High and my 15 c...

Model T Ron

My 24 coupe has a grinding noise coming from the rear axle and I think it's time for a rebuild. Car has excellent paint interior along with a rebuilt engine and transmission however it looks like the rear axle was overlooked. I am looking to do this right so comments are wanted along with a parts li...

Model T Ron

So the rear axle is making a grinding sound and you're sure it hasn't been rebuilt? I wouldn't waste time on draining and flushing. I'd get that sucker out of there, split it open, and fix what needs fixing. The MTFCA Axle book tells you in step-by-step detail what to do. https://dauntlessgeezer.co...

Model T Ron

I ran the car for a few miles and sucked out the old lube and replaced it with 80w140. It did not make any difference but would a flush maybe help? If so what would you use to flush the axle with.....kerosene? If I do end up rebuilding it I am going to add a drain plug.

Model T Ron

Some rear axle noise is probably normal. The Model T has none of the engineering improvements that later cars had, such as spiral bevel ring and pinion, heavier construction, more anti-friction bearings, and so forth that allowed for smoother and quieter gear set operation. The Model T lacks any ru...

Model T Ron

I took the 24 Coupe for a test drive and the clutch feels exactly like my 15 Touring so at least that's fixed but the noise did not go away. I think Scott is right about it being axle noise amplified through the transmission. Got the car up to 30 on a flat road and let off the gas and the noise was...

Model T Ron

I took the 24 Coupe for a test drive and the clutch feels exactly like my 15 Touring so at least that's fixed but the noise did not go away. I think Scott is right about it being axle noise amplified through the transmission. Got the car up to 30 on a flat road and let off the gas and the noise was ...

Model T Ron

Photos would help. If you took the time to get it running it would also add to it's value.

Model T Ron

I suggest consulting the Ford service manual, and there are also some good discussions on this board about the adjustment procedure. It's not terribley difficult. Pictures do help. It sounds to me like your linkage does need adjustment. It may be that the bands also need adjustment, which is not di...

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It's the added weight of the stabilizer creating vibration and metal fatigue at the clamping point. The broken tie rod I saw was not rusted. The fracture was square and appeared brittle, just immediately adjacent to the stabilizer clamp. However, do as you wish... [/quote] Thanks Jerry. The stabiliz...

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I am not discounting what has been said but the one on my 15 may be warn out. For my sample size of 1 I can make the argument that is does little good or bad to the car

Model T Ron

I had my 15 Touring on my rack so I took a look at the stabilizer. I unbolted in and inspected the thing. It has the force of a screen door return so If someone broke a tie rod it was not because of the force from a stabilizer. The tensile strength of low carbon steel is 131,984 pounds per square in...

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Just wanted to know everyone's thoughts on the Hydraulic stabilizer for front axle. I have one on my 15 Touring (came with it) and the car never seems to get caught in the ruts and I never had an issue with the front wheels tracking. I drove my 24 Coupe with a very tight front end for the first time...

Model T Ron

Yep belt should be 27 inches and I have 31 plus.......I have a feeling she will run better without having the belt hitting the timer

Scott I do appreciate you saving me some time sorting this out. I always like to talk to experts on hear and someday I hope to be one

Model T Ron

You do not have too much travel...you have too long of a fan belt, and to adjust it correctly, the fan has to go to high and swing toward the passenger (timer) side to accommodate the extra length. Put on the correct belt and your timer fouling on the belt will go away. At 30+ MPH you will need all...

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I want to add to Scott's comments about the bell crank attachment. I had too little timer travel. I found that my bell crank was not drilled with its rivet hole 90 degrees to the timer rod hole. The bell crank was tilted too far toward the frame to move the timer adequately. I flipped the bell cran...

Model T Ron

I still need to see if I have a loose wire but I see that Lang's has a Tiger Timer for $85. Should I need to replace it what is the best available to us today?

Model T Ron

I would guess the Service Manual is probably on the Cimorelli website, but I prefer an actual physical book to keep in the shop. It's available from the parts dealers. I believe there's also a large print version. Maybe I have some timer suggestions, maybe not. Depends on what kind of timer it is. ...

Model T Ron

I wonder if the reason for the "last 5%" til engagement could mean the 3 clutch fingers are out of adjustment? I've only driven the car twice myself, sadly the last time was for the previous owners funeral, and unfortunately I can't remember how "it felt" popping it into high (what you refer to as ...

Model T Ron

Thank you for the link......I will print them out so I can see them a little better. Sounds like I need to look at the bands and adjust the linkage as 2nd should not engage in the top 5% of travel when letting the clutch up. I am realizing now just how well my 15 touring was setup when I got her a f...

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The easy answer is to fit another petcock. They are the same as those on the pan that are used to check the oil levels. Otherwise, follow Adrain's plan. Not all Ford petcocks have a spring, washer and split pin to hold tension on the rotating piece. The early cars had a machined washer and a fancy ...

Model T Ron

Is the Ford Service Manual online do I need to purchase a copy? I did adjust the 1st gear band on my 15 and it was rather simple. To be honest I have no clue why 2nd is engaging at the top end of the pedal on the 24 Coupe or how to adjust it back down a bit.

Model T Ron

I believe high should begin to engage just after the pedal is about halfway up and before the pedal is all the way up, or the lever all the way forward. The pedal should have a very slight amount of free play when fully released. Mine is setup so that its in neutral from the normal mid position all...

Model T Ron

Thanks Pat You may have hit on something with tight bands. When I am letting up on the clutch to go into second it catches at the very high end of travel. My 15 catches second a tad over the neutral position. I do find it strange that the 24 catches at the top......is this an indication of not being...

Model T Ron

I have had my 1924 Coup for about a month now but prior she was not used much for the last 4 years. The first thing I did was remove the package shelf and move the seat back 5 inches. This took a bit longer than expected as I found some wood rot that needed to be fixed... It was a bit of work but we...

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I needed to drain my radiator and now that I refilled it the petcock is dripping. The car has an original radiator and the petcock seems loose. Any tricks to help with this or is it off to the radiator shop?

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An original speedo is great but you can get a GPS Speedo on ebay for about $50. They say it needs 9v but it works just fine on 6V

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Mr. Harper at 5'4'' you are in luck that any T will fit you just fine. On my 15 Touring I had to remove the backrest springs and use foam and after all that I just about fit. Now on my 24 I finished everything up today including mounting the gas tank a few inches back and screwing the seat component...

Model T Ron

Thanks for the response. From what it looks like the engine has very little use since a rebuilt so the Mag must have been addressed as well. To be honest I was surprised she started on mag as I always thought you needed to start on Battery.

Model T Ron

I am now working on my 24 Coupe so its not able to be started but this is the first T I have had with the original buzz coil ignition system. When the car was warm I was able to start it on Mag (Simply forgot to switch to battery)......is this normal ? Did not try it cold but would it start on Mag w...

Model T Ron

It sure looks better to me! And the added leg room. Ahhh. I'm tall also. Makes me rethink my love for cramped Runabouts. John asks it correctly: How's your back like it? That's not crazy Suzanne. Not at all. And you could use the driver's door! :) I knew the pre 24 Coupe's had a bit more legroom an...

Model T Ron

I got the brace from Lang's that was mentioned above for my 1915 Touring. I do agree that on good roads you could go without it but you never know when a pot hole can sneak up on you and why take a chance You could make one however the Lang's brace looks like original equipment and only a T man woul...

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My 24 Coupe only has the one taillight without a second wire for a brake light. I see they have several different styles of Stoplight switches available and I wanted to know what you guys think of the different styles. My thoughts were not to put full turn signals on rather just make the single ligh...

Model T Ron

Do you guys think it looks better with the backrest raised to the rear window height? I think it does.

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Due to my long legs I do not think the starter switch location is going to be a problem but if it is i see no reason why that could not be moved back as well.

Model T Ron

That really looks good. Thanks Pat. I still have some work to do with mounting the tank and nailing or maybe screwing everything down but I wanted to see how it would look and I am happy with the results. Last night I raised the bracket that I made to get the backrest up to the rear window level an...

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Well I just did a mockup to see if my measurements were right and I got my 5 inches :D :D :D I think it looks just as if Henry made her that way for tall people :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: . Lots more work to get it all together but the juice was worth the squeeze and look at all that room behind the st...

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Today I worked on making my wood patch piece and that was a bugger to get right but its now finished and painted.....just need to screw it in. I then moved on to bracing the backrest on the wooded framing sections that once had the package shelf screwed into it. Basically I took a piece of wood a bi...

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Norm makes a good point about the location of the gas being thought out. Safety becomes an issue when gas tanks get to close to a muffler in any car. Maybe some type of shielding from the muffler? These days modern vehicles tanks are next to or close to exhaust systems but T’s weren’t built with sa...

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With the help of my good old Buzz Tool I was able to cut the rotted wood out of the floor on my 24 coupe. I cut back to solid wood and boy do you need to be a contortionists ......I sat on the driver side running board with my right hand holding a board under the bad body wood so the tool would cut ...

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Hey John
I would not remove the 97% good wood because of a bad 3% lol

Did you screw the patch piece in or nail it?

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The right side is solid as can be but the wood on the right side just crumbled in a small area next to the window. I plan in buzzing the bad out tonight and making a patch. Its so isolated that I see no need to do any major reconstruction at this point. Overall I am impressed with the condition of t...

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RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:46 pm
4 quarts is the correct amount.

Thanks for the reminder. On my 1915 Touring I have a dip stick so I just fill to the level on the stick. When I change the 24 Coupe's oil I will add 4 quarts but I do think I will add a dip stick to this car as well.

Model T Ron

Hear is the 24 Coupe with the gas tank removed along with everything that needs to come out.

Model T Ron

Well I got the seat riser out but I came across some hidden rot below the back window on the drivers side so this will slow me down until I can get all the rot out and make a wooden replacement part. any recommendations are appreciated.

Model T Ron

In your first picture, you do not look unusually tall. Must have a short torso and long legs. My dad was like that. He was 6' tall. I was only 5' 7" tall, but when we sat side by side on a bench, I was taller than him! Be sure you put your leg down all the way to the sloped floorboard and see if yo...

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After some effort the interior slowly began to come out.

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Got the gas tank out late last night and I am working on removing the seat riser tonight. Cannot wait to drive a T is utter comfort for the first time :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:...

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Driving the car at road speeds with modern gasoline would have got rid of the carbon without taking the head off. The carbon is the result of short trips, cold running, and perhaps rings not yet seated, and perhaps oil level too high. I cannot speak for the prior owner but I thought the Model T oil...

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I was just wondering what would be the best sealant for a copper clad head gasket. I would think putting it in dry would not be a good idea. Also I am installing a Z head so do not know if that makes any difference.

Thanks
Ron

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Well I had a chance to get the seats out along with the package shelf. After measuring the edge of the package shelf to the bracket that screwed into the wood framing it looks like I will be able to gain 5 1/2 inches of legroom.....to me that is amazing and a total game changer in the area of driver...

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I think I solved the riddle of why the 24 was a little hard to start. I pulled the plugs and they had a very large buildup of carbon. Being that I plan on adding a High Compression Head I wend ahead and pulled the cast iron head off and it was all carboned up. The top of the pistons as well as the v...

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Bill lives with in an hour of me and has hauled a few things for me, he goes out of his way to help, I have turned a few close friends on to him also! Bill was outstanding and if I ever need something transported I will be giving him a call !!! Bill told me he has driven over 4 million miles accide...

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So hear is what I started with. As you can see the package shelf takes up a lot of room and for a tall guy like me it's worth the effort to go after that valuable Real Estate. This will involve removing the package shelf, removing the gas tank, removing the seat riser and then reconstruction.

Model T Ron

I had my new to me 1924 Coupe delivered on 2/24/23 and I plan on making a few minor changes. First off removing the package shelf should give me an additional 5'' of legroom. Below are a few photos of her being dropped off by Bill from Bill's Auto Works. If you ever need a car transported I recommen...

Model T Ron

Rotella is good stuff and I do use T6 but I wish it came in a 10w30. I tend to get Mobile 1 and or Rotella T6......now a days its not uncommon to find the oil shelf empty at Walley World so the days of being picky are over.

Model T Ron

still looking

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I think it would depend on how much you drive. If you are only putting on 500 or so miles a year its not too bad but if you put on 3000 that's a lot of oil changes. I know for a Model A you can get an Oil Filter however that's not an option for a T to the best of my knowledge.......all we can get is...

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I would suggest using a quality 5W30 or 10W30 conventional oil in a new or near-new engine. After 300 to 500 miles, I'd drain it and use 10W30 full synthetic. Avoid racing or loading the engine, such as climbing a steep hill, especially before it is fully warmed up. It's best to run any engine ten ...

Model T Ron

If this car has only a few hundred miles since restoration, it isn't broken in yet. I'd oil the timer, check all fluids, then drive it as if it was a brand new car. (Read Ford owner's manual) I think you have made a very good point about not being broken in yet. I went out and hand cranked it witho...

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I have had a 1915 Touring for a few years but it has a modern distributer and does not use buzz coils. The 15 starts on the first or second pull every time and runs great. I just got a 1924 Coupe that has a rebuilt engine and appears to be all stock. She has had very little use with maybe 500 or so ...

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I got another T to keep mine company.....The new to me one is a 1924 Coupe named Elizabeth that was dropped off on 2/24/23. She was named by her prior owner and I think it's bad luck to change a cars name lol

Model T Ron

One more photo of Bill standing next to my New To Me 24

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Bill transported my recent purchase a 1924 Ford Model T Coupe from Norwalk, Ohio to Troutman, North Carolina. This man is a true Gentleman and does business just like in the old days. I know that I can trust Bill and if I need future transportation I will be calling him. Below is Bill pictured with ...

Model T Ron

I think the simple answer is that Ford built a very good car in very high numbers for a very low price. Many people went from the horse to the T and Henry just kept building them for 19 years. People knew the T and trusted its reliability.......in reality the T should have ended in 1925 but Ford did...

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I installed a new set of Universal White tires on my 1915 Touring a few months back. The fronts were taken off the car and I managed to get them on along new flaps using tire irons. Not to bad but for the backs I decided to leave the rims on the car and this method turned out to be much EZer. Removi...

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Funny thing is my Model A with a water pump will boil over in 90 plus degree heat. My 1915 Touring without a water pump has never boiled over regardless of how hot it is outside.....the car also has a high compression head. It makes me question what cooling system was a better design??? :lol: :lol: ...

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I may have to trim up a Touring front rubber mat for my 24 Coupe. Classtique does offer the correct wool carpet but $350 is a little high in my opinion for a floor mat.

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Bill I like seeing people like yourself using your cars. Hear in NC just a few miles north of Charlotte it Model T Weather 12 months a year but anything below 55 to 60 and its to cold for open car motoring for me......that's where I think my soon new to me 24 Coupe is going to really work. I am tall...

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MichaelPawelek wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:24 pm
My favorite for our usually mild Winters in S.E. Texas!

Now that's a nice Coupe.....thanks for posting the photo

Model T Ron

I was thinking it would be a cut your own thing. Any carpet supplier you would use?

Model T Ron

Hey I am not finding front carpet for the closed cars. The vendors have the rubber mats for the open cars but no carpet mats. Do you just find some carpet and cut your own or does someone offer the carpet.

Any reason why they say the rubber mats will not fit the closed cars?

Model T Ron

My 24 Coupe is being picked up next week so I will have her soon. My first T is a 1915 Touring but I wanted a closed car because we have many winter days that are nice for driving but not so nice for open car driving. I happen to like the Coupe but I do not see so much love for this style. How could...

Model T Ron

I would like to think someone has a solution. I am going to be putting on a set of RM Brakes soon so I am interested in this trend.

Model T Ron

I haven't installed a Ruckstell or an aux trans yet, and here in the relatively flat middle of the continent I haven't needed them. But from my reading over many years I think I want one of those and some aux brakes when I venture east of Wheeling or west of Denver.[/size] [/quote] If your going to ...

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I think some of you are missing my intensions as posted above. I feel a Model T good for 35 to 40 max and to be honest 30 is a good speed. My 1915 Touring is not stock (Came to me that way) and I have had it all the way to 58 once..... it was still pulling hard when I lost my nerve......The problem ...

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This is Elizabeth my soon to be...... new to me 1924 Coupe.

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