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A finished, complete car will always be cheaper than a project in the long run, if it's done to your specs. But some of us have more fun bringing a pile of junk back to life than driving someone else's dream. Also, when you are challenged for funds the pile looks more appealing

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That guy in #15 looks a lot like my wife's great grandfather

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Look at all the buckles!

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500? that's a steel

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Anyone know what to use for a key blank?

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Anybody know anything about these? What to use for a key blank, what the cap looked like, how it works?

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Legitimate complete car with many things changed, updated and replaced over time, like most 100 year old cars.

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So when they tear down your car, pull the head off, do they put it back together for you or is it like a secondary inspection crossing the border?

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Had that happen to a small block chevy, mud dauber right down the double pumper. My bad, stored without an air filter. My bad again, kept cranking, trying to start until some of it got sucked in and locked a piston. Had to pull the head.

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Nice car! Who cares what other people think!
Sure you weren't at the Porsche club meeting?

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20210810_141308_HDR.jpg My uncle built this one in the early 70's and passed it along to me. I've run it across the western states twice now, works great! Tandem axles are preferred these days but the lightness and ease of a smaller single axle hauler is appreciated. Because uncle set the balance s...

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Well if your time is worth about $5 per hour I guess it makes sense compared with the cost of a new manifold. When you get done you still have mismatched ports which impede flow and probably poor threads for the pack nut. But you will have the satisfaction of saving an original part that others wou...

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While you have a plug or two out checking spark prime the cylinder with some fuel, put it back in and try to start. If it sputters then you know the extra fuel helps. Worked for me!

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Throw an old chain or some nuts and bolts, gravel in that tank with the rust remover. You can shake it from time to time to get some abrasion with the chemical strip.

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Citri strip is said to work good, EZ off oven cleaner does the job. Either way or something else the key is to try a little first, vary the sitting time and find what works best on what you are removing and the make up of the paint you are trying to keep. Laquer thinner usually takes everything off ...

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Hey Coker, you listening out there?

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My rivets came off easily with an air chisel and sharp tool. Bolted the new one on as I wasn't up to beating rivets on a finished car. Be aware that the Langs part notes that it is forged, Believe it! The whole part is forged and brittle. Good for keeping the teeth sharp, bad for adjusting it to fit...

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Last year I received a similar check over the asking amount for a vehicle sale, check was in excess of 30k. Took it in to my local bank, told them I thought it was fishy but they deposited it anyway, said 3 days to clear. Went back in after 3 days they said yeah it's good, you can release the car. H...

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Wish I was closer!

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The O ring is a really good idea!

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The input and output of the 2 speed, as well as the 3 are both 7/8" and yes, the output socket of the T trans is the same size and worn like the Warford input shaft. Given the machining, parts replacement and disassembly required to properly fix the problem I decided to put it back together, noting ...

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Yeah, I just got it pulled last night, I will check measurements today. Get a good look at the T trans output too.
Won't an adapter with a U joint make the assembly longer? Going to be a pita to find one

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My first plan was to swap the cast iron 2 speed for the aluminum 3 speed (not KW) that I recently rebuilt. Not! The 2 speed is 10 1/2" long, 3 speed is 12" Sure is a lot of variables on these boxes, a lot of information in the forums here too. Too bad it's scattered all over in random posts, would b...

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I pulled my Warford yesterday to address the oil leak. I filled it with modern gear oil to the top of the fill opening and it slowly leaked out to the countershaft level. Don't know the proper oil level but the countershaft seems pretty low. It leaked out of the cotter pin hole, what is supposed to ...

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My 22 touring resides in a shipping container, dry and rodent free. It does get hot inside in any sun, I need to put some vents in it. It's really tight on the sides too, I can't imagine how someone would get into that truck posted above if it was in a container. 2k is a really small budget for a sh...

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Thanks for the discussion, always love talking about oil

Yes of course the T trans should be in neutral

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It's an original box with fresh new bearings, yes Gene those gears are tuff!
Guess oil weight probably doesn't matter much.

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Should I use the 600 wt tar-like gear oil for an aux trans or will 140 wt be ok? Is it best to start the car in gear or can I get to high or low after it's running? Helps having a true neutral starting a cold car in cold weather, don't have to get the jack out

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Merry Christmas to you Steve! So glad glad you are well into your journey to full recovery. Even though I have not met you, I consider you a great friend & a great inspiration to any “T” enthusiast! I’m quite new to the world of Model Ts and I absolutely love it. You have been in my thoughts & pray...

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Dallas Landers wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:26 pm
I use CBD oil. Eats more gas but the front end is calm with no shaking.
Just funnin. I use bar and chain oil also.

Good one!
I use any motor oil which usually means 0 or 5w something, which really runs thru fast. I bet the bar oil works good tho.

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Hahaha!

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I think the wheels look great on that beautiful car, a proper upgrade for such a fancy T!
Sure is green for this time of year out in Tenn

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Got the 15 started!! :D What did it? Timing was correct all along, 12 volts vs 6 helped a lot, new NH carburetor works fine, better than the tired old running one off the 19. Spark on all cylinders at the right time as I had explained before while people still said check the pin on the timer... A wa...

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Looks like an agent for Copart, you can buy thru them without signing up and paying for a Copart subscription. Copart makes you pay now. Looks like they have a free subscribe? Probably insurance company totals, would come with a salvage certificate. Wonder what happened to the fordor with both wheel...

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Way cool!!

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I was wondering if it was ok to give the coils 12 volts, good to know! I will try that today. Always fresh methanol free gas for the old stuff, sta-bil if it"s going to sit. Gas these days - is it just me or does it slip thru the cracks more now? Seems like everything I've got, all older makes and v...

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Thanks for the video links, Inspiration to get my stuff dialed in right!

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Yeah Pat, I was thinking the same thing, should get something?
Need to make or get a proper adapter for my compression gauge the one I made works for leakdown but bypasses the check valve on the gauge. Get some actual numbers tho I already know there are no major leakdowns.

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Still trying. Measured the piston to deck height when the intake begins to open, 1/16" per the book. Tried some starting fluid in the intake and direct into the cylinders, barely a puff. cleaned the plugs although I know they work from watching the spark. At least it cranks over better now with all...

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Been there done that Wayne.
Good idea James but the nearest club is 3.5 hrs away, that's why I come here

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After pulling the timing cover I can positively, absolutely guarantee that the timing mark on the cam gear coincides with the groove marked ford, and the timer roller is pointing directly towards #1 when it is at tdc compression. The cam is the pin type, or part of a small nail in this case :lol: . ...

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Double, triple, and re- checked the wiring... Being 4 wires, color coded and proper length for each spot makes it hard to go wrong, but I did have it messed up the first time :oops: I know the brass G needs attention as it leaked all over, didn't spend much time with it. I will get back to that and ...

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I will check that. I was thinking that my visual observation of the spark occuring at tdc and in the proper firing order confirmed spark timing but it's worth a try.

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Still trying. Measured the piston to deck height when the intake begins to open, 1/16" per the book. Tried some starting fluid in the intake and direct into the cylinders, barely a puff. cleaned the plugs although I know they work from watching the spark. At least it cranks over better now with all ...

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As no. 1 piston travels down the intake valve opens. bottom of the stroke the intake valve closes, compression builds. At TDC the coil rattles off a healthy spark to no. 1 plug. Piston goes down and the exhaust valve opens at bottom, closes at tdc when the cycle begins again for no. 1 and no. 4 spar...

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Yeah I grew up in your neck of the woods, not much snow in Alpine but lots of hills to roll down!

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Thanks for the replies, I will double check the cam timing. Didn't know about the thru hole for the timer pin but I will look. I did put some oil in the cylinders a couple times and been turning it over a lot, it is easier now. Not sure what's up with the compression gauge, I know about the relief v...

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I'm putting this 15 roadster back together after 50+ years of being a project car. After being apart half it's life it's ready to be together again. I'm told that the previous owner put new rings in and "did the valves". It's tight, hard to turn over by hand, feels like it has new rings? Rear end is...

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To the top for Nate, a great seller. Group # 1 is a complete set to get you a Warford without sacrificing your original parts.

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6V Optimas are the best!

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Drool...

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Hi, Thanks for some of the comments, I do not have to sell it. I like selling Model T's on the T site. I would rather sell it to someone who knows Model T's and enjoys them than just to any vulture. I have had this car for quite a few years. and would like it to stay somewhat local if possible. Som...

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Love this car!!
Loved almost all Bob's cars he has sold/for sale.
Would have to build another garage to keep it in, and less time for all the other cars and projects.
Trying to live the word "enough"

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I've got a leaky warford I need to address sometime, and a couple parts boxes as well, seems like there should be an official Warford thread around here to address general questions on these gearboxes.

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Yellow car is beautiful! Original 13 or not someone put some $ into that.
Warford and Ruxtell does seem like overkill tho.

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I highly recommend the optima for all 6v applications, you don't want to see my rig to keep it in the battery box

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How do you affix your brass tag to the axle Kevin?

CO PLS here.

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^^ I agree! He wants what he wants not whatever is currently available. Not rude; direct and to the point when people point out coupes fs that are not the one, or argue he won't find what he wants. Super cool car he's looking for too, they look great with that B pillar removed! Keep on searching Wal...

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This ^^

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"Supposedly; when crank started, Ford supplied kerosene cowl and tail lamps. So, their absence allows me to guess your coupe is immediately after the brass radiator era or 17-18." I'm thinking you meant 19-20 because of the lack of cowl lamp brackets? Or am I reading that wrong. I will check out the...

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Yes I have been following Walt's thread and understand his specific wants, that is where I got most of my limited knowledge about coupes. I'm also grinning ear to ear as I drive my well worn T around the gravel roads here and tinker on the old girl while Walt waits for perfection. Different goals th...

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Aw dang, meant to post this in general, oops

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more details

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A couple details to help with identification, the door hinges have been "modified", a couple of them appear to have been made out of house door hinges

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I have been enjoying my coupe in the beginning of winter months while the 22 touring stays pretty in the shop, fun to have a T to play year around :D The previous owner's father resurrected the coupe from "a pile of junk" around the 80's, said it was a '17 but when he redid the wood with home brew m...

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Mine came with 2 thicknesses of rubber gaskets made from inner tubes

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The guy hugging the other guy ^ Is he giving us the finger?

Great pics!

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I was able to meet up with this crowd on Tuesday as everyone was coming in from the day's run, I was impressed that folks had a smile on their faces after a day of HOT sunshine and still had kind words and time to talk to someone wandering the parking lot oogling at their cars. Seeing your rigs runn...

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To the top for the Wonderful Wisconsin tour! Looks like a great time!
I will be visiting the state same week as ya'all, although the touring car is staying home. If you see someone in a rental car waiving and thumbs up it could be me

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What is the oil level in a Warford? I filled my cast iron 2 speed to the bottom of the oil fill hole and it leaks out the plug with the cotter pin. Did I put too much in or do I have a significant leak?

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