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skyhunter

Tis my next move. The ball cap does go in. It has a Scat crank. Did not think that the end hanging by the spring would be a possible contributor till I looked at the whole picture which was why I mentioned it. I just thought maybe the holes of the coupling ring were just a bit off. Like when a brake...

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I am hoping part of my problem may come from the frame being on jack stands and the rear hanging and not sitting on the wheels on the ground.

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Speedy- OK thanks

John - I was thinking of taking a bolt and making a short stubby tapered alignment punch. Thanks

Dan - great, now I am really going to be up all night tossing and turning. LOL Engine was just rebuilt by a reputable machine shop so I hope so.

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In your first paragraph you state “the hole was not at the top.” I presume you’re referring to the threaded grease cup aperture. Yes, that’s the only way it can be placed. Enter the bottom 2 bolts into the crankcase first and refrain from tightening them. Then you should have enough ‘wiggle room’ t...

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So I was having great difficulty getting the bottom two bolts for the coupling ring to thread into the rear of the block. It was suggested that maybe the ball cap was clocked wrong and the hole was not at the top since the 4 holes are not all the same and that I might be able to turn it and make sur...

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For what it's worth I got an response from Lubriplate and their Max Tac Red grease is non-conductive (no moly or graphite) water resistant as there is no clay base and has a thick #2 lithium 'complex' and a melting point higher than the oil operating temp.

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I would think the best option would be to do both. Use the bock and side bolt but just snug it, not murder it. Maybe add a spring there and then use the spring on the upper bolt. Be close to a rubber mounted engine and flex when it needs to.

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I am sure I am not the only one but looking for a torpedo type large gas tank.

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There is a reason they call it a “suicide” front end. With the dropped front mount, I suggest putting the mount above the spring. This way the U bolts are not responsible for holding up the weight of the car, which they are not designed to do. No need to delete this post as these mounts are fairly ...

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So, if the spring on the front was mounted on top of the drop mount would that restrict the spring too much.

Please message me, do not post a reply, I'd like to delete this after I have an answer.

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You and me both. I wish someone still made these.

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None of their cars have original oil, gas or air in their tires.

I would bet the insides of the engines contain non original parts as well.

Some people are so small and pathetic they have to criticize other to feel like a man.

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I could not find a way to delete the post, so I just deleted the title and the body of it.

But it stated, "you must post at least 10 characters" So I did.

I don't know why the OP can't delete their posting.

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Nobody will say Les.

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at least 10 characters.

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I have had contact with them.

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I am just wondering how long they are. I have a speedster and like this look, but not sure how long this is and if it will hit the steering column. Need to reconfigure the seat height and distance. Etc. Etc.

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How long are these things?!

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Looking for a pair of bucket seats for a speedster, shells are fine. Preferably in the northeast. The ride from CA is just too cost prohibitive.

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Henry seemed to have a bias or blind spot towards things outside his use.

Like "there is the TT, why would anyone want a car with a small truck bed on the back".

Same with the Model A. "why, we have the model T".

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I had mine reground for more than the cost new.

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Agreed! And some "insiders" are obnoxious.

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Anyone with a fender less style speedster have some pictures, advice and guidance for assembly options that would look more, correct? As well as best practices for joinery. My skill level is ok with basic or mitered butt, and dowel joints. Brass screws or t-nuts and bolts for things like removable ...

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Was going to paint these and put them back on my speedster but going another way. Figured I would not paint them in case the next guy wanted them in something other than black. 2 side lights are lanterns and rear has been converted to electric. Sorry about the 1st pic. $150 for all 3 plus postage.

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Frank. I have seen that. But the rear crossmember was trimmed and there are many holes in many places on the frame so without a diagram of frames marking what holes are what and where they are located it's a daunting task. Some holes are square, and some are round. Little was attached to the frame s...

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Is that the book that lists everything like by year. I think I may have it. Almost all the pages one looks up states "same as 1915" then when you go to 1915 it states, "same as 1914" and so on. If it is it's in a box in a storage container with other stuff that distracts me. This vehicle has a 1916 ...

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The joys of playing "what the heck was he thinking"?

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Bolted on the top of the frame. Ugh. It just gets worse. So, seems that the brackets are not of the same time frame, side by side the bases are different. Also, the person who put these brackets on drilled holes for them, and not very well. They are at least 3/16" off from each other so the firewall...

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Not my fault, I already have enough Edison 14s and 13s to meet my needs, so I won't be bidding. They are great plugs. :) I'm going to give away a trade secret - I use auctionsniper.com to put in a last second bid for me. I go to their site, enter the item number, and put in the absolute maximum I a...

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Is the firewall to frame brackets for the wooden firewalls a left and a right? The reason I ask is the pair that were on this speedster are exactly the same and the person who built it put one flat side to engine and the other flat side to coil on the firewall which seems to put the firewall at a bi...

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Engine is at the machine shop. Rear is at Lang's getting Ruckstell installed. They are also doing work to the front axle. Had the frame sandblasted and it is in primer while I reconditioned the springs and reengineer the front Z bar drop.

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Thanks Frank.

That is exactly what was there.

I like that Henry Lee one. 7" seems a bit more than I need.

I have reached out to contact both, but Lee said he was retired.

Anyone have one for sale, or the measurements of the Lee style?

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Saw this today.

I may go back and take measurements.

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I have this, from tank to carb so I can quickly reach under the frame and pull it towards me shut without having to open the hood in a situation of extreme urgency.

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Any plans out there for a better drop like this? I saw a bunch of pictures with examples before the car showed up but dang if I can find them now that I am actually looking. Funny that, the interwebs. This is the car it is on. I guess it has been around for a while like this if anyone recognizes it....

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Since it's not entirely clear how the "Z" bracket is mounted in the first place, it's hard to say whether or not your added plate will help or not. Gotta be better than a rotted hunk of wood however. Why is your original motor mount gapped 1/4"(?) above the crossmember? Is the "Z" bracket held on w...

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I think this should keep it solid.

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They probably made better time on 41 then than we do now.

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There is a wood block as a spacer for the steering box.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3546.aspx

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Thanks. I suspected as much but wanted to make sure since I think with the frame there has to be some flex.

I will tighten up the holes and get some box steel support.

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I'd like to see more of the bracket/mounting before commenting. Is the spring loose in the bracket, or is the bracket loose in the cross member? Either way both should be solidly mounted. Allan from down under. No, the whole spring is solid. Seems the boogered out hole and weak pine block gives the...

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Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:04 pm

(BTW, I have never heard it referred to as a "suicide" front spring mount.)

Back in the day the old-time squares always called mods done by the cool kid hotrodders "suicide" (fill in the blank). Suicide shifter etc.

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Does the mount for the leaf spring and the cross member need to be solid or should there be some flexibility? I have never seen a OEM mounted one, so I don't know. The reason I ask is because this DIY lowering mount did wiggle a bit side to side on the cross member after I took the wheels off and hu...

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That HCCA makes little sense to me.

I can't see any Model T as being a "horseless carriage". The 1st car he made called Model A, that I can see. Like an Olds Model R or Frank Duryea's car.

They looked like someone took the horse off and added either gas power, electric or steam power.

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Well, I have a Ford in a Ford right now.

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Thanks Chris and Craig. I was thinking of doing the gate but having the levers off set using a Model A brake lever for the Ruckstell and possibly taking the knee bend out of the T lever. But I may want the extra separation. But the tube over shaft single mount look would be a lot cleaner. I am going...

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Thanks for the info, keep it coming. Found these 2 pics. Love to see the undersides of these cars. My car has one of those brake equalizer set ups for a 20-27 T that allows the brake to work as either foot operated or the hand brake lever. But I am removing it and going to just stock style lever E-B...

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Be interested in pictures or diagrams showing how it was done.

Love to be able to have both on the outside of the body on the left-hand side and would like to see how others who have done it accomplished it.

I have seen one's with the brake lever moved outboard but not also the shifter.

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The garage in my Cape style house in Boston was not much bigger. It was a standard "3rd" of the basement garage. My F150 never fit in it and working on my Edsel I could only open one door fully if I put it on dolly's and slid it sideways. Had to park it depending on what end of the car I wanted to w...

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So, I bought a HVOL from a vendor at Hershey and just now getting around to installing it. I notice that in addition to missing gaskets the aluminum oil scoop that goes inside the hogshead is also missing. Anyone know the original manufacture of this part. I have contacted the seller to see if they ...

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There was supposed to be a gentleman in Arkansas that made the tanks for the people in CA.

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Does he have a website?

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I did order the plastic kit, or at least what was advertised as the “waterproof” kit on Langs website. Over the phone I was told it is made from plastic. In addition to the plastic box panels, I ordered all the hardware and contacts for a complete rebuild. I did see that I’ll need to solder the wir...

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Jerry, The one I ordered is the “waterproof” version from Langs. I was told it’s plastic. I’m still curious about the soldering of the terminals to the bolts. I guess either way it’ll work. skyhunter, I would like one too but since they are no longer available, I plan to wire my own. It’s just a di...

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I have a 1917 - I added the starter but of course, the block is not cast to accommodate a generator. I chose to go with a John Regan magneto charger. It's simply a diode and a light bulb connecting the battery and mag post on the battery box. John produced a nice little circuit board that does the ...

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I would go with a dark stain that still shows the figure of the wood. Heat can bring out the figuring. The reason I say darker rather than light is the inevitable other stains.

You can even stain the grain dark then sand it down and use a lighter stain for the wood outside the grain.

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I have this Wilmo Manifold. Anyone have any info on these?
Plan on using my NH carb and a HC Head and was wondering about the performance of these if anyone knows the info.

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I just started taking off the old red that the speedster was painted. Well, it was red with white from the frame and on down. The steering column was brass under the red. After working on it today I am now certain I want the whole thing dark blue, other than everything under the hood. This doodle I ...

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Its a speedster and your car, so do what you want to do. FYI, 1911 and 1912 cars had black chassis with midnight blue body, fenders, and wheels. Some of the most beautiful cars built! : ^ ) I get that. But with the speedster style I am going with there would be no fenders or splash aprons so the fr...

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I guess really, I am wondering if today's gloss black (that looks soaking wet and shiny when dry) was that what the Japan black or whatever it was called, looked like. Or is there a better match or is that as close as we can get now. PPG Concept Gloss back single stage urethane will give you a grea...

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I guess really, I am wondering if today's gloss black (that looks soaking wet and shiny when dry) was that what the Japan black or whatever it was called, looked like. Or is there a better match or is that as close as we can get now.

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So, I am rebuilding a 1916 speedster and want to do the custom body in the dark blue. My question is I am also doing the chassis in blue and going on the I know in 1914 they made them all black. I am thinking of also doing the frame and wheels in blue as I think it would just look odd black and blue...

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Does anyone carry just the plain switch plate? The 4730 look too pretty.

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out of date

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Safe travels home all.

This topic can be deleted.

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Headlights sold.

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TRDxB2 wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 28, 2023 6:14 pm

skyhunter wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:36 pm

I'll take the gas tank straps & bases =- how would you like to be paid eMail sent too

Are you going to Hershey?
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I am not going but close friend has will have a spot there to sell his stuff. Will that work? Can email you his name & where he'd be located.
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Sure.

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I'll take the gas tank straps & bases =- how would you like to be paid eMail sent too
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Are you going to Hershey?

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Richard K wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:38 pm
PM sent fpr Hubs and Straps. Thanks Rich

Are you going to Hershey?

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Anyone with a fender less style speedster have some pictures, advice and guidance for assembly options that would look more, correct? As well as best practices for joinery. My skill level is ok with basic or mitered butt, and dowel joints. Brass screws or t-nuts and bolts for things like removable p...

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I could have sworn I posted this, but I don't know where it went.

Looking for the following.

2" drop rear cross member.

Front 2" dropped axle.

RAJO 4 (a boy can dream can't he)

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Brass Headlight style Forked light brackets.

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thanks

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deleted, past date

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I am in PA now so nothing to sell. But I did score some stuff I really needed.

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By the way, that "empty hole" bracket? It is an earlier style used in the 1910s. While not terribly valuable, they are somewhat desirable for those that want the correct piece on their 1910s car. About 1920, Ford switched to the much more common later stamped three hole version rather than the cast...

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Your last photo, the empty hole was supposed to have the steering column shaft run through it, and placed above where the throttle arm should be (except that some speedsters do not use the original type throttle linkage). The purpose of that piece is to steady the throttle linkage and rod to preven...

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Also want to know what these 2 rods with springs on one end are called and are there replacements available.

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Additionally, what this round thing is as it was attached to nothing. Thanks

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I deleted the original stuff since you have solved that part of my puzzle. As an update: Having the Z bracket redesigned by a friend and going to use the earlier OEM style that uses the two U-bolts with the front motor mount rather than that sketchy single point that was on it. At the other end it w...

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May we post a wish list of things we are looking for?

Going and hope to maximize what time I can while there.

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I already have a complete 1916 speedster, but it is in the regular style so buying another is not practical. Plus, it is too new. I have a friend who makes steel for modified Model A's, 32s and later. This is an example of what he makes. Wow.jpg He is going to do the skin. But I have to do the carpe...

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Looking to build a long-nosed speedster like this one. Anyone have diagrams for the floorboards, risers etc. Also, measurements to cut firewall for shape. Prefer to use boards rather than plywood. My friend will make the hood around what I build but have no idea who made this speedster. I like the s...

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But has anyone ever modified the clutch foot pedal and converted it to a shifter lever?

I don't mean for a Ruckstell shifter. I am just wondering about operating the stock ford pedal by hand like a jockey shifter.

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