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by TrentB
Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Need help re broken piece
Replies: 18
Views: 1108

Re: Need help re broken piece

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From the 1926 KRW catalog.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Costs and Profits on Model Ts in 1921
Replies: 3
Views: 342

Costs and Profits on Model Ts in 1921

I volunteered in the Benson Ford Research Center for many years (pre-Covid) and had complete access to the Ford Motor Company’s accounting records during the Model T era. Each month the Accounting Department produced a report entitled “Comparison of Cost and Sales of Autos Produced”. I have a copy o...
by TrentB
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:51 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Restoring a KR Wilson transmission fixture
Replies: 7
Views: 725

Re: Restoring a KR Wilson transmission fixture

Richard, I admire your workmanship. It looks really good. One thing I have noticed while using my KRW Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture is that clamping the circumference of a drum too tightly can force the drum off of the centerline of the reamer. So I only tighten fixture lightly around the dru...
by TrentB
Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: State of the art in 1906
Replies: 9
Views: 778

Re: State of the art in 1906

And sometimes solved problems reemerge. One of the issues that has been cited for the reluctance today’s drivers to purchase an electric vehicle is “range anxiety”, the fear of running the battery down before reaching a charging station, and being stranded on the side of the road. Owners of pre-T Fo...
by TrentB
Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Stevens T-180 Generator Gear Puller
Replies: 16
Views: 755

Re: Stevens T-180 Generator Gear Puller

Certainly. The overall length is 5.525 inches. The major diameter is .328 and is about 4.440 inches long. The minor diameter is .162 and about 1.112 inches long. The lengths of the major and minor diameters do not quite add up to 5.525 inches because of the transition from the minor to major diamete...
by TrentB
Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Stevens T-180 Generator Gear Puller
Replies: 16
Views: 755

Re: Stevens T-180 Generator Gear Puller

This is a NOS Stevens T-180 I found at Hershey this year:
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Respectfully Submitted,

TrentB
by TrentB
Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: WHY DO T CRANKS BREAK BEHIND #1 ROD?
Replies: 25
Views: 1220

Re: WHY DO T CRANKS BREAK BEHIND #1 ROD?

First of all, I agree with Jerry, metal fatigue is a major cause of Model T crank failure. But what contributes to metal fatigue? Here is my list of causes of metal fatigue in Model T crankshafts: 1. Lugging the motor. Keeping the rpm’s down when driving can cause the crank to lug causing metal fati...
by TrentB
Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:28 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Cam nut wrench!
Replies: 40
Views: 2296

Re: Cam nut wrench!

Like every other Stevens tool I have ever run across, the T-138 Camshaft Nut Wrench works very well.
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Respectfully submitted,

Trent
by TrentB
Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:32 pm
Forum: Services
Topic: Model T Voltage Regulators and Diode cutouts now Available
Replies: 29
Views: 2351

Re: Model T Voltage Regulators and Diode cutouts

Is there a discount if you supply a used Ford cutout at the time you place your order?

Thanks,
by TrentB
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:23 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Neway Valve Seat Cutter
Replies: 8
Views: 571

Re: Neway Valve Seat Cutter

This is what my mentor (he built racing engines) taught me about valve guides. You need .002-.0025” clearance between a Model T valve guide and the valve stem. Less than that increases the likelihood of a sticky valve. That clearance also allows the valve to find the best position to seal at. Model ...
by TrentB
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Neway Valve Seat Cutter
Replies: 8
Views: 571

Re: Neway Valve Seat Cutter

Just to add a bit to Scott’s description of how to use Neway Valve Seat cutters, make sure you clean the valve guides throughly before installing the pilots. Use a bore brush if you have one.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Thu Jul 06, 2023 11:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Triple gear pin locking ring
Replies: 20
Views: 1108

Re: Triple gear pin locking ring

The confusion over triple pins arises from the fact that from 5/29/23 on Ford produced two (2) slightly different triple gear pins at the same time. Before 5/29/23 the same triple gear pin was used both for new production and for repairs when triple gear pins had to be replaced. The factory symbol n...
by TrentB
Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:57 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Engine Stand help
Replies: 11
Views: 903

Re: Engine Stand help

My personal favorite is the KR Wilson engine stand on a roller base. B1B066CE-0BB7-4B20-9A04-7749E1319704.jpeg The advantages I see in his stand is that there is very little flex of the stand with the motor on it. More modern stands made from welded square tubing always have some movement when holdi...
by TrentB
Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:03 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: FS: New 2564E Clevis Pins
Replies: 4
Views: 470

Re: FS: New 2564E Clevis Pins

Hi Larry, Thank you. The pins are coming out nicely. I chose 21/64 as the oversize because that is the same as first oversize of valve stems. If someone’s clevis holes are worn, they can use a valve stem reamer to open the holes up enough so the new oversize clevis pins will fit. The cotter pin hole...
by TrentB
Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:43 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: FS: New 2564E Clevis Pins
Replies: 4
Views: 470

FS: New 2564E Clevis Pins

FS: New production early style clevis pins with the correct domed head for 1909-1913 Model T Fords, T-2564E. These are available in standard (5/16) and 1/64 oversize (21/64). 5 used per car: 4 brake rod clevis and 1 clutch shift clevis pin. $2.25 each or 5 for $10 plus $9.55 shipping. CAFB926F-076A-...
by TrentB
Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Interesting Shipping Document
Replies: 7
Views: 619

Re: Interesting Shipping Document

I’m impressed! Milford and Amherst, NH are just west of Manchester. It appears that Chas. J. Upham may have been a sub-dealer for D.F. Sullivan in Manchester, NH. These cars could be in FMC Accounts Receivable records, but we will not know until the Benson Ford Research Center reopens sometime in th...
by TrentB
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:59 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Photo inside an automobile garage shop
Replies: 7
Views: 645

Re: Photo inside an automobile garage shop

This photo shows why the KR Wilson motor stand was a best seller.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Hogshead felt seal
Replies: 13
Views: 965

Re: Hogshead felt seal

Check the compressed thickness of the felt with micrometers. Most transmission cover felts are twice the thickness they should be. I usually split the felt in half by pulling it apart starting at one end. Then I coat both sides of the felt with RTV. I also trim the length of the felt so it just come...
by TrentB
Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:26 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Who knows what this is?
Replies: 9
Views: 1049

Re: Who knows what this is?

Here is one we came across about 18 months ago.
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Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:10 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Vehicles
Topic: Unrestored 1909 Model T auction ending 6/17/23
Replies: 21
Views: 4486

Re: Unrestored 1909 Model T auction ending 6/17/23

The Model N is intriguing, but somewhat puzzling. It appears that someone converted it to thermo siphon (I wonder how that worked out for them) by removing the water pump and connecting the water pipe directly to the radiator. An original water pump appears to be on the seat, so perhaps someone was ...
by TrentB
Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done to your Model T in June?
Replies: 51
Views: 4557

Re: What have you done to your Model T in June?

Made these for a 1911 torpedo runabout.
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The black one is a NOS original.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Historical Question
Replies: 8
Views: 990

Re: Historical Question

Some years ago I found the story on the straps that run from the back of the engine block to the top of the pan arms in the Walter Fishliegh files, accession 94 in the Benson Ford Research Center. When the “Improved Cars” were introduced in the summer of 1925 they did not have these metal straps. Fo...
by TrentB
Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Method for Model T distribution during the early years?
Replies: 1
Views: 342

Re: Ford Method for Model T distribution during the early years?

In 1911 Ford was still manufacturing cars using the stationary assembly technique. Cars were completely assembled at the Highland Park plant and either driven away by dealers or shipped to either Ford branches or to dealers in more distant locations. The assembly plant system was not used until afte...
by TrentB
Sat May 27, 2023 8:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: KR Wilson Model T Era Tool Cabinet on eBay
Replies: 4
Views: 963

KR Wilson Model T Era Tool Cabinet on eBay

This is one of the most difficult KR Wilson Model T tools to find. https://www.ebay.com/itm/145106362338?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=3tjkqyhvqm-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Jf3dZK5kS4-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY In my opinion, it is one of most desirable KR Wilson to own. It holds...
by TrentB
Sat May 27, 2023 2:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Some photos of a 2 lever at the shop today
Replies: 32
Views: 2525

Re: Some photos of a 2 lever at the shop today

What’s its engine number?

Respectability requested,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Tue May 16, 2023 1:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Luray is ON
Replies: 35
Views: 2564

Re: Luray is ON

My understanding is the current market price of original KR Wilson pan straightening jigs is $2000-$2500.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Wed May 03, 2023 10:37 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Calling all T Gurus
Replies: 7
Views: 933

Re: Calling all T Gurus

Adam’s suggestion should work. Alternatively, create a dummy valve by grinding/turning down an old valve’s head so that it is only about 1 inch in diameter, and it will completely clear the valve seat. Remove a valve, spring and keeper, and clean the guide and top of the pushrod, if you have not alr...
by TrentB
Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Another cam question
Replies: 7
Views: 925

Re: Another cam question

FWIW: The camshafts Bill Stipe produced came about as a part of Ford Motor Company’s T-100 project which produced 6 brand new 1914 Model T Ford’s for its centennial celebration in 2003. I pulled all of the FMC engineering information on Model T camshafts from the collections of the Benson Ford Resea...
by TrentB
Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Driveshaft question
Replies: 10
Views: 1056

Re: Driveshaft question

What Dan McEachern writes is generally true, however, relatively few Model T parts had the name “Ford” in script on them before March 19, 1919. After that date virtually all genuine parts had Ford script on them somewhere.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Here’s what made the Ford Model T Engine so Special
Replies: 1
Views: 578

Re: Here’s what made the Ford Model T Engine so Special

In MHO, the article is a vast simplification of what made the Model T so successful. I prefer to describe it as a large number of interrelated compromises that ultimately proved successful. The study of those compromises has fascinated me for over half a century. Respectfully Submitted, Trent Bogges...
by TrentB
Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:37 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Stevens Thread Chaser on TBay
Replies: 30
Views: 3367

Re: Stevens Thread Chaser on TBay

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: “Trent, Do these tools actually cut away the deformed portions of any threads, or do they re-shape a burred or rolled-over thread? Thanks.” Jerry, That’s an excellent question. Here is a close up of the inside of a Stevens T-181. 5638BDEA-37DB-4A5B-A93E-BC8BE94B3E5E.jpeg It ...
by TrentB
Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:16 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Stevens Thread Chaser on TBay
Replies: 30
Views: 3367

Re: Stevens Thread Chaser on TBay

Disclaimer: I have not personally handled or examined the Stevens T-181 tool listed on eBay. Having said that, I have handled, examined and used a number of T-181 tools over the years. The condition of the thread chasers on these tools is critical to the usefulness of these tools. The chasers are su...
by TrentB
Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1908 Model S
Replies: 28
Views: 2698

Re: 1908 Model S

It does appear that the original McCord mechanical oiler has been replaced with a more modern oil pump on this Model S roadster. If I am seeing it correctly, the modern oil pump is drawing oil from the bottom of the crankcase and pumping oil to the right hand side of the motor. Originally, oil from ...
by TrentB
Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:03 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: WTB: Stevens Sea Lion and Arbors
Replies: 8
Views: 1031

Re: WTB: Stevens Sea Lion and Arbors

You really need just the Sea Lion, mandrels can be made. The original Stevens mandrels were made from 1-3/8 diameter steel bar, then turned down to different sizes to fit different makes of cars. Only one was made for the Model T and it came in standard size only. 76EB181B-06D9-4290-91EB-3814B4FBF5C...
by TrentB
Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Help identifying this bracket
Replies: 2
Views: 661

Re: Help identifying this bracket

Accessory rear license bracket for 1909-1914 cars.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:06 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: WTB: UPDATE- KRW Wilson Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture Reamers - all sizes please
Replies: 20
Views: 2645

Re: WTB: UPDATE- KRW Wilson Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture Reamers - all sizes please

I have posted a dimensional drawing and photos of the KR Wilson transmission bushing shell reamer mandrel on the discussion forum of this web site. Enjoy!

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: KR Wilson Transmission Shell Reamer Mandrel
Replies: 3
Views: 561

KR Wilson Transmission Shell Reamer Mandrel

Here is a dimensional drawing of the KR Wilson Transmission Shell Reamer Mandrel: D8333730-312B-4E76-BEE1-A163652024F6.jpeg The body of the mandrel is made from 1.125” drill rod with an overall length of 11-3/8”. The left end is a an 11/16” square. The right end has a very slight taper of approximat...
by TrentB
Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:17 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: WTB: UPDATE- KRW Wilson Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture Reamers - all sizes please
Replies: 20
Views: 2645

Re: WTB: UPDATE- KRW Wilson Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture Reamers - all sizes please

Give me a couple of days to make up a drawing and I will post it on the discussion page, not this page.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:29 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: WTB: UPDATE- KRW Wilson Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture Reamers - all sizes please
Replies: 20
Views: 2645

Re: WTB: UPDATE- KRW Wilson Transmission Bushing Reaming Fixture Reamers - all sizes please

The mandrel for the shell reamers is not that easy to make. That’s because the hole in the shell reamers is slightly tapered. The mandrel has a corresponding taper. This insures the shell reamers are tight fit on the mandrel and will be properly aligned with the bushings when reaming them using the ...
by TrentB
Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: unusual "Stevens" tool, guess what it is, specifications added to post
Replies: 27
Views: 2835

Re: unusual "Stevens" tool, guess what it is, specifications added to post

Mr. Brown, Thank you for posting the photos and drawings of the Stevens T-138 camshaft bearing splitter. Based on what you posted I made one for myself. D50C29A0-7C7F-492B-8B79-BB7A28A03DE0.jpeg 1755B867-2E63-4400-9810-85DDCCFFA6CB.jpeg DB18D3F4-C614-4F59-AC7A-DE4BA6706340.jpeg Whew, that was a lot ...
by TrentB
Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: KR Wilson Transmission Reamers Photograph
Replies: 3
Views: 637

Re: KR Wilson Transmission Reamers Photograph

You’re welcome!
by TrentB
Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:15 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: KR Wilson Transmission Reamers Photograph
Replies: 3
Views: 637

KR Wilson Transmission Reamers Photograph

There has been quite a bit of interest on the MTFCA swap page in transmission bushing reamers, especially the reamers used with the KR Wilson transmission bushing reaming machine. For those who are unfamiliar with the Wilson Transmission Reaming process Here is a photograph showing the 5 different r...
by TrentB
Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford part I.D.
Replies: 7
Views: 945

Re: Ford part I.D.

I agree with Adam.

This piece is riveted to the top tank of black era radiators and protrudes through the rear wall of the tank. It is threaded for the radiator stay rod.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: unusual "Stevens" tool, guess what it is, specifications added to post
Replies: 27
Views: 2835

Re: unusual "Stevens" tool, guess what it is

KR Wilson also advocated reaming new camshaft bearings and sold a special holding fixture and reamer for doing this. The reamers are usually marked W7. 521840DC-B841-4B59-BB6A-2951938E8672.jpeg 9E2A95AD-E264-40AB-825F-B7E293FDDE0C.jpeg 3C43DD68-BF57-4C33-AEF5-5F28C90A3588.jpeg Respectfully Submitted...
by TrentB
Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Large N.O.S. Lifters
Replies: 17
Views: 2383

Re: Large N.O.S. Lifters

Ford Y block.

These can be converted into NRS valve lifters by grinding off the cup.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:59 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 2 lever 09 sells tomorrow in Paris at Bonhams
Replies: 63
Views: 5636

Re: 2 lever 09 sells tomorrow in Paris at Bonhams

When the first Model T was shipped on October 1, 1908 there were numerous flaws that needed attention. Ford was making design changes to the Model T at a rapid pace as production expanded. This was particularly true of the motor. Somewhere between motor number 400 and 500 several changes were made t...
by TrentB
Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:08 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Do you back up hills?
Replies: 25
Views: 1920

Re: Do you back up hills?

Only unplanetary people back up hills in a Model T. I carry a second gas cap which has been fitted with a tire stem. The only time I have ever had to use it was on Stoney Pass near the headwaters of the Rio Grande a few miles outside of Silverton, CO, and that was on a full tank of gas (it was a STE...
by TrentB
Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Crate Engine
Replies: 20
Views: 2470

Re: Crate Engine

Ford did specify the size of the crates used to ship Model T parts to the factory for two reasons. First, the crates took quite a bit of abuse and by specifying the size Ford could make up replacement boards so the crates could be repaired quickly. Second, the crates were designed to hold a specifie...
by TrentB
Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done with your Model T in January
Replies: 40
Views: 4609

Re: What have you done with your Model T in January

I decided I wanted to check the alignment of a Model T connecting rod using the KR Wilson alignment fixture: FE764D60-EAE2-4FF3-B686-D6658B8EDD20.jpeg The C clamp’s purpose is to hold the spider tight in the top of the rod. The spider is not machined to accept a piston pin clamping screw. 4E5A504A-B...
by TrentB
Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: unknown tool, possble valve carbon remover/cutter ?
Replies: 17
Views: 1812

Re: unknown tool, possble valve carbon remover/cutter ?

The old Sioux 645 series of valve grinders had attachments on the right hand side of the grinder for valve stems and push rods. The stones for the right side were much thicker than the valve facing stone on the left side. EB328389-EE7C-4B10-A999-1136B11F8301.jpeg These grinders also had a provision ...
by TrentB
Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:54 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: unknown tool, possble valve carbon remover/cutter ?
Replies: 17
Views: 1812

Re: unknown tool, possble valve carbon remover/cutter ?

I think this is a valve refacer for cast iron head valves.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:26 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1911 Torpedo question
Replies: 7
Views: 1044

Re: 1911 Torpedo question

The US made 1911 Enclosed Runabout (Torpedo) did not have a separate battery box under the seat or elsewhere, though it certainly would be nice if it had one. Under seat storage space is very limited on these cars, but small motorcycle battles will generally fit. Respectfully Submitted, Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:00 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Piquette
Replies: 12
Views: 1678

Re: Piquette

Bear with me as I am working from memory here. The first thing to remember is that Ford did not move from Piquette to Highland Park overnight on December 31, 1909. It was a gradual transition as one department after another moved to Highland Park. It was the final assembly department that was moved ...
by TrentB
Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Mystery Christmas part identification
Replies: 9
Views: 985

Re: Mystery Christmas part identification

Might be part of a front plate distributor setup that was powered by the camshaft.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: It’s A Wonderful Life
Replies: 10
Views: 1452

It’s A Wonderful Life

If you are watching “It’s a Wonderful Life” today or tomorrow, take note of the credits at the beginning of the film. The screenplay is based on a story by Phillip Van Doren Stern, who was also the author of “Tin Lizzie: The Story of the Fabulous Model T Ford”. Respectfully submitted, Trent Boggess ...
by TrentB
Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done to your Model T in December?
Replies: 67
Views: 6446

Re: What have you done to your Model T in December?

[/quote] Trent, It hurt a little bit to see that con rod in your vise. Did you check for bend & twist afterwards? [/quote] Jerry, The next step is to straighten the rebabbitted rod: 8BFFC01D-A941-4D3C-B95A-7F820B306367.jpeg 7A0EE6B6-7CC6-46E2-A260-1C93EC13ACED.jpeg EAFEA6DC-DCBE-4F89-8718-6B8C73D686...
by TrentB
Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Babbitt boring bar RPM?
Replies: 21
Views: 2112

Re: Babbitt boring bar RPM?

An alternative is to use a Bridgeport style milling machine equipped with a right angle or horizontal adapter and power feed on the X axis. I have seen this used to power a Wilson line boring jig. With an rpm of about 400 and a very slow table feed this set up bored main bearings to a sufficiently f...
by TrentB
Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:57 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Who Made This Transmission Drum?
Replies: 8
Views: 1260

Re: Who Made This Transmission Drum?

Hi Jerry, As a point of reference, here is a photo of a NOS narrow brake drum. Note that it has both the name “Ford” in script and the factory number T-709 cast into the web of the drum. The one in your photo shows that it has the catalog number 3311 cast into the web. To my knowledge, Ford always u...
by TrentB
Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:27 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Replacement Blocks?
Replies: 28
Views: 2531

Re: Replacement Blocks?

1926-27 blocks are notorious for cracks in the valve chamber under the water inlet. The casting is very thin in that area and not supported by the cylinder walls or the center walls of two piece valve chamber blocks. 1923-25 single valve cover blocks do not seem to suffer from this flaw for so often...
by TrentB
Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Replacement Blocks?
Replies: 28
Views: 2531

Re: Replacement Blocks?

Actually, NOS blocks are not all that hard to find, and a dozen years ago I assembled one into a running motor. There are a couple of things to keep in mind if you are thinking you might like to build a motor using an NOS block. First, a NOS block is still going to need to make a trip to an automoti...
by TrentB
Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:46 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done to your Model T in December?
Replies: 67
Views: 6446

Re: What have you done to your Model T in December?

I have been able to rebabbit Model T main bearings for some years now, but I thought I would try my hand at connecting rods. I made a jig for boring the rods on a milling machine (based on a set of jigs a good friend of mine had made up for his own use). I used one of the commercially available mold...
by TrentB
Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:57 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: Wanted: Adaptor plate
Replies: 11
Views: 1168

Re: Wanted: Adaptor plate

Try Lang’s:

https://www.modeltford.com/item/6005-ADP.aspx

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:21 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Which Radiator for my TT?
Replies: 10
Views: 1392

Re: Which Radiator for my TT?

Another way to distinguish a high dash (firewall) from a low dash is by counting the coil box terminal holes. The low dash has 10 holes for 10 coil box terminals. The high dash only has nine. The coil box battery terminal was eliminated (along with the switch on the coil box) when the high dash was ...
by TrentB
Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Does the axle get bushings where the wishbone and spindles go in?
Replies: 12
Views: 1240

Re: Does the axle get bushings where the wishbone and spindles go in?

A major cause of front end shimmy that is frequently overlooked is seized front spring shackles. Be sure to check them when you put the front end back together.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:57 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Larry Original Smith
Replies: 43
Views: 3375

Re: Larry Original Smith

The same email went out to many of Larry’s friends. It’s definitely is a hack.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent
by TrentB
Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:00 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Timing gear cover seal
Replies: 13
Views: 1502

Re: Timing gear cover seal

Following up on Les’ point, what condition is the camshaft lock nut in? Many camshaft nuts are severely worn where the seal rides. If you are going to take the front timing cover off, you might want to change the camshaft nut while your at it.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Looking for 8-1/2° taper reamer...
Replies: 19
Views: 1655

Re: Looking for 8-1/2° taper reamer...

Years ago before Dan Hatch was making reproduction reamers for the Stevens Axle Bushing Jig, I made my own. For the top bushing reamer, I started with an automotive ball joint reamer and cut the length of the fluted down so it would fit in the frame. The ball joint reamer cuts the hole to a 1-1/2” p...
by TrentB
Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Restored 1908 Ford Model S Roadster
Replies: 7
Views: 1142

Re: Restored 1908 Ford Model S Roadster

It’s a beautiful car, but incorrectly described. First of all, it is a S Runabout, not an S Roadster. S Roadsters are cars built after March 1, 1908 that feature a single “Mother-in-Law seat positioned behind the main seat. They were painted a bright read, like the early 1909 Model T touring cars. S...
by TrentB
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:25 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: wanted Rod Jig Spider
Replies: 4
Views: 954

Re: wanted Rod Jig Spider

This is often referred to as a “Sea Lion”.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:57 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Valve grinding.
Replies: 10
Views: 1324

Re: Valve grinding.

I use the Neway 205 and 636 cutters. These cut 60, 45 and 30 degree angles on the seats. You will also need several pilots as the reamed guides will typically vary a bit. Neway guides come in .001” plus and minus increments along with standard sizes. As far as reaming the guides themselves, here are...
by TrentB
Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:49 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Bushing at End of the Steering Shaft
Replies: 27
Views: 2474

Re: Bushing at End of the Steering Shaft

Another approach involves cutting off the bottom 12 inches of the steering gear shaft and welding on a new piece. This requires 1) a first class welder, and 2) the ability to machine the bottom of the shaft. I have done this on a couple of 5-to-1 steering gear shafts I wanted to save. In order to do...
by TrentB
Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Torpedo Questions
Replies: 26
Views: 2559

Re: Torpedo Questions

AA0ACA69-E9DC-4E1B-84C6-CEFC7D1BE3CD.jpeg In addition, there are several other parts that are unique to the 1911 torpedo and open runabouts. These include the rear hub hand brake lever, and all three pedals. The handbrake lever is re-bent from the standard 1911 style lever, and the pedals are re-be...
by TrentB
Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Me, Larry Smith, and a set of original 1913 side curtains...
Replies: 12
Views: 1969

Re: Me, Larry Smith, and a set of original 1913 side curtains...

Another thought. Did each body company have their own design for the curtains. Larry, probably so. Until the 1915 model year bodies were supplied to Ford painted and trimmed by the different manufacturers. We know there are subtle differences in the way bodies were made depending on the manufacture...
by TrentB
Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Hershey Pictures????
Replies: 63
Views: 6861

Re: Hershey Pictures????

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by TrentB
Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:10 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: KR Wilson Combination Machine for T and A
Replies: 0
Views: 652

KR Wilson Combination Machine for T and A

This is a complete KR Wilson combination machine set up for both Model T and A. It includes both pouring jigs (with pouring blocks), both boring jigs with false camshafts, the cylinder boring bar with guides for both T and A, and the special micrometer for setting the cutters, the rear camshaft bear...
by TrentB
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:28 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: KR Wilson Model T Pan Jig
Replies: 1
Views: 718

KR Wilson Model T Pan Jig

KR Wilson Model T pan jig for sale. Jig is in good condition as shown in the picture below. Jig only. Crankshafts, cylinder head etc on top of the jig are not included. Delivery to Hershey for pick up available. $2500.
by TrentB
Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:52 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: KR Wilson Model T Rod Jig
Replies: 1
Views: 693

KR Wilson Model T Rod Jig

KR Wilson rod alignment jig for Model T. The arbor fits standard (1.250), 0.010 undersize, 0.020 undersize, and .030 undersize connecting rods. This jig is complete and in very good condition. Pick up at Hershey available Red field, spaces RCF 38-45. $325.00. C9142067-6234-4BBE-808E-D9DF5F214AB4.jpeg
by TrentB
Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:42 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: T932B Lower steering bracket variations
Replies: 12
Views: 1458

Re: T932B Lower steering bracket variations

The T-932-B Steering Gear Bracket is only used on 1911 though 1925 cars (and 1926-27 bare chassis). It’s predecessor, T-932, is used on 1909 and 1910 cars only. The principle difference between the two steering gear brackets is the angle of the Steering Gear Shaft bore. The ‘09-10 bracket angle is 4...
by TrentB
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Note on Steering Gears
Replies: 2
Views: 788

Re: Note on Steering Gears

Dan, The Record of Changes for the steering gears (the sun, the planet and the gear case itself) do not list a pressure angle for the teeth before the change in 1919. The Record of Changes simply describe them as having “straight 14 pitch teeth”. I do not have the part drawing for any of the gears m...
by TrentB
Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:20 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Note on Steering Gears
Replies: 2
Views: 788

Note on Steering Gears

Here is a note by Joseph Galamb on changes made to the steering gears in September 1919. The changes are not documented in most Model T repair publications, so I am posting it here for general reference. On 9-17-19 Joseph Galamb wrote: Change the pitch diameter of gear teeth on the following parts (...
by TrentB
Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:07 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: T932B Lower steering bracket variations
Replies: 12
Views: 1458

Re: T932B Lower steering bracket variations

According to the Record of Change cards for T-932-B Steering Gear Bracket the bracket was resigned and the upper bushing removed on 4-16-1921. After that the bracket used only one bushing at the lower end .

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:46 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Any tips for navigating Benson Ford Research Library?
Replies: 7
Views: 1019

Re: Any tips for navigating Benson Ford Research Library?

Whichparts drawings will you be looking for? Several things to keep in mind. First, keep in mind that the drawings are organized by factory symbol number, or factory number, not the catalog number. Take a Model T parts book with you that lists both the catalog number and factory numbers. Also, drawi...
by TrentB
Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: grain bed photos
Replies: 11
Views: 1758

Re: grain bed photos

This one was built by the Western Body Company, 1207 Winchester Ave, Kansas City, MO:
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Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:17 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Pre T: Model B, things I've learned so far.........
Replies: 11
Views: 1912

Re: Pre T: Model B, things I've learned so far.........

Mr. Ford’s patent for the rear axle is U.S. Patent number 747,909, granted on December 22, 1903.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:23 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Intake valve guide seals.
Replies: 32
Views: 3094

Re: Intake valve guide seals.

When it comes time to ream the valve guides, look for a Stevens Valve Guide reamer set up. In order to accurately pilot the reamer through the guide, a centering guide is placed in the valve seat. When Ford machined the blocks, the valve guides and seats were machined at the same time. Stevens utili...
by TrentB
Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:31 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Anyone know where I am or the number of this 09 2 pedal T?
Replies: 7
Views: 1764

Re: Anyone know where I am or the number of this 09 2 pedal T?

This car is number 839.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Minimum gas in tank to be on safe side?
Replies: 14
Views: 1908

Re: Minimum gas in tank to be on safe side?

Only unplanetary people back up hills. I keep a special gas cap with me when I am doing really steep climbing (e.g. going over Stony Pass out of Silverton, CO). This cap has been fitted with an old metal inner tube stem. When the motor starts to starve for fuel, I stop, change gas caps, and use the ...
by TrentB
Mon May 30, 2022 7:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Why are all model T's lumped together?
Replies: 10
Views: 1625

Re: Why are all model T's lumped together?

I have been studying the Model T Ford for about 55 years. I have delved into almost every aspect of the car, including design, devevelopment, evolution, production, and marketing. Overtime I have come to think of Model T production as falling into five(5) different periods or eras. First is the Earl...
by TrentB
Fri May 13, 2022 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done on your Model T in May?
Replies: 55
Views: 5870

Re: What have you done on your Model T in May?

Fixed the starter bending on the ‘25 roadster. I had postponed doing this for several years fearing what I might find when I got the old bendix out. Turns out it was just the long bendix bolt that was broken, and the missing piece was still in the bendix cover when I removed it. No harm to the rest ...
by TrentB
Wed May 04, 2022 8:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1915-1916 Firewall drawing
Replies: 7
Views: 1536

Re: 1915-1916 Firewall drawing

If I read the drawing correctly, section BB is part of the dash that was to be cut away to provide clearance for the rear cover of a 1915/16 era magneto horn. The cut was shown in two parts, first as a straight on view, then second as a cross sectional view (BB). At least that is how I am interpreti...
by TrentB
Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: KRW Con Rod Alignment Tool
Replies: 17
Views: 2293

Re: KRW Con Rod Alignment Tool

KR Wilson sold a connecting rod alignment jig of a different design in 1926:
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Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:16 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Rehabilitating the reputation of a pre-T, this road begins with K and leads to B.
Replies: 17
Views: 2192

Re: Rehabilitating the reputation of a pre-T, this road begins with K and leads to B.

I think you mean “The Panic of 1907”. The United States economy began to weaken during the summer of 1907, and a full-fledged financial crisis occurred during October 1907. This was an especially sharp downturn in the economy, particularly in the fledgling automobile industry. Ford sales of Model N ...
by TrentB
Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:18 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: KRW Con Rod Alignment Tool
Replies: 17
Views: 2293

Re: KRW Con Rod Alignment Tool

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by TrentB
Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Model T transmission thrust issue
Replies: 11
Views: 1931

Re: Model T transmission thrust issue

Clutch disc hubs without the name Ford in script were produced before March 19, 1919. In fact Ford script was relatively rare on Model T parts before March 19, 1919 with exceptions being the top tank on brass radiators, radiator shells on black era cars, hub caps, and 1914 and later coil box switche...
by TrentB
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:15 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Model T transmission thrust issue
Replies: 11
Views: 1931

Re: Model T transmission thrust issue

One additional point: there are two versions of the Ford script clutch disc drum. The early version has Ford script on the FRONT side of the drum and was used with the top hat brake drum bushing. The later style can be identified by having Ford script on the REAR side of the drum. This is the one us...
by TrentB
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:56 pm
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: KR Wilson Model A Ford Driveshaft Seal Tool
Replies: 0
Views: 709

KR Wilson Model A Ford Driveshaft Seal Tool

For sale is a KR Wilson drive shaft seal installation tool for the Model A Ford. This is the earlier style with screw on head, later versions had the ball head integral with the rest of the tool. The 1930 KRW catalog lists this as tool number A310. The tool is in excellent condition and shows no sig...
by TrentB
Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Lifter guides
Replies: 10
Views: 1944

Re: Lifter guides

1909 to early 1911 open valve engines used replaceable brass push rod guides.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum
Topic: Lifter guides
Replies: 10
Views: 1944

Re: Lifter guides

NOS Ford replacement T push rod guides look like this:

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by TrentB
Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am
Forum: Classifieds - Parts
Topic: NOS SPRING SHACKLES WANTED
Replies: 10
Views: 1877

Re: WANTED NOS SPRING SHACKLES

Try checking with Lang’s Old Car Parts. They recently acquired several sets of NOS Ford late style shackles.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess