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For an ignition battery, a 12 volt non-spill mower/ATV/garden tractor ... usually last a long time. Mine lays on its side under the seat, and it is about 12 years old, and it still starts the car. ...

... play among the wording about the battery location on Model T Coupes. ... BUT some would call the location under the front seat which is actually under the back rest ...

Perhaps the battery is "under"neath the seat back but not under the seat bottom?

“No, it is under the seat in a recess area which appears to be original and has a board ... coupe, when the seat backrest is removed , you can access the battery, but same is easier to pull from the rear deck with battery ...

I have a 1930 Ford Model A coupe.The battery is under the floor and ahead of the seat, directly under the driver's feet. There is a metal access cover ...

... has a positive ground, 6 volt battery (yes, I checked the ground). ... about the starter operation under 12 VDC. Your opinions are greatly ... battery location was under the front seat. So as suggested some photos will ...

Mike S

If the battery is in the stock position (in the trunk), it would ... - musta been owned by a Model A guy ! No, it is under the seat in a recess area which appears to be original and has a board ...

jmemjr

... don't want to Drill Holes in my running board. Under the back seat is crowded and shallow with a battery and a backup battery as it take a lot of juice to crank this ...

... can put you between nodes & run poorly. If on battery, you have infinite adjustment. Retard untill ... demand You may be starving for fuel from an undersized needle/seat unit. A hi flow unit will help & many times solves ...

Norman Kling

I noticed one error. That was that the 6 volt battery under the seat powers the flywheel mounted magneto. That is not correct. The ...

kwhmopar

... I was going crazy. The gas tank sure enough is under the driver's seat. Sorry for the bad pictures. The car is still in my ... fuel line from the carb, but it just ended near the battery. The sediment bulb is in the box of parts that came ...

kwhmopar

... '23 used an oval tank. The driver seat is secured to the floor. The passenger ... of the tank being mounted under the front seat. The rear seat is difficult ... tank to fit. Under the car hangs the battery and exhaust system. I'm at a loss ...

I installed a 12 volt battery in my 1915 touring car. Since it has no starter ... I installed a 12 volt fuel pump, next to the under-the-seat fuel tank with hoses and a switch. I don't use the fuel ...

I have two 1913 T's that require a battery for cranking. I have found a Lithium battery ... volt, and fit nicely along side my spare coils under the seat. Mr. Larry Smith, didn't earn the nickname, "Original ...

I have two 1913 T's that require a battery for cranking. I have found a Lithium battery ... volt, and fit nicely along side my spare coils under the seat. The worst "part" will be the starters if they are 6 ...

I have two 1913 T's that require a battery for cranking. I have found a Lithium battery that is about the size of a Model T coil to work very well. The best part is they are 12 volt, and fit nicely along side my spare coils under the seat.

... first time. Fitting the floorboards and back seat area. Battery access lid. The lid is 12 1/2 inches wide. The area ... fixed floor crossmember, and add the strip that goes under the floor parallel to the frame that will support ...

ryanpad

... modifications. The gas tank was removed from under the seat, and a new larger tank was fabricated to take up most ... turtle deck. A false floor under the seat with a wood battery box was fabricated flush with the floor. A 12volt ...

frontyboy

... modifications. The gas tank was removed from under the seat, and a new larger tank was fabricated to take up most ... turtle deck. A false floor under the seat with a wood battery box was fabricated flush with the floor. A 12volt ...

Colin Mavins

I have a small 12 volt car battery under the back seat it sits in a wood box open top and it runs lights turn signals brake light 2 horns and is used to start the car on battery. One small hole to run the wires under the car. my car is a 1912 touring

ryanpad

... car. I don't like the look but one has to get under the car to see it. Perhaps another query is what sort of battery is used? My battery is for hand crank starting ... deep cycle battery (Wouldn't fit under the back seat). Lithium batteries will fit in small places but ...

... car. I don't like the look but one has to get under the car to see it. Perhaps another query is what sort of battery is used? My battery is for hand crank starting ... deep cycle battery (Wouldn't fit under the back seat). Lithium batteries will fit in small places but ...

... out that Ford didn't supply a battery with 15-16 cars, they were ... 4 places). But the Switch on the front of the Coil Box, has a position ... I keep a Stoltz distributor under the rear seat just in case I need it someday...hopefully ...

Norman Kling

... you are getting spark by turning ignition to battery and slowly turn the crank. you should get ... go through a filter. Also if you have the tank under the seat, the fuel level might be too low. I have a 22 which ...

I favor the stock battery carrier but I have seen many with the battery under the back seat as Dan suggested. If you put it under the seat I recommend a sealed ...

Dan McEachern

Just FYI, you can fit a full size battery under the back seat. An Optima would also fit no problem with room to spare.

I used an 6 volt Optima battery, it fits under the drivers seat between the gas tank and side of car. Totally out of sight. The solenoid fits in there and the momentary switch protruding just under the seat lip. All hidden.

hull 433

Bryan, I’d stay away from a later style battery mount, especially to avoid drilling your 1914 frame.

Why not use a period solution instead? Many people installed batteries in their 1914s when new, either in a specialized battery box on the running board, or under the rear seat.

Allan

Bryan, I would use a 6 volt Optima red top, lying on its side under the back seat. Out of sight and taking up minimal room. Better that than drilling/fitting a battery in the frame under the car, and easily reversible if needs be.
Allan from down under.

bdtutton

... a lot of power and require a full size car battery for extended usage. I put the battery under the rear seat with a fuse box and hid the wires in the body and frame to keep ...

mtntee20

... say what model car you have. Is the gas tank under the seat? If it is, you have to be EXTRA careful with the battery cables so as NOT to short out on the tank. Jerry's idea is ...

Robert Kiefaber

... had a dome light, and that it was run off a battery. Fords of course had no battery from the ... that had a 1915 told me there was a wire under the rear seat, presumably for the dome light, but no indication it ...

Wayne Sheldon

... had a dome light, and that it was run off a battery. Fords of course had no battery from the ... that had a 1915 told me there was a wire under the rear seat, presumably for the dome light, but no indication it ...

... original Ford tire irons, just under a foot long, will make this the ... I received it, and stored under a seat in the car? No, it is not. Storing ... you want a 30 x 3 for the front and a 30 x 3½ for the rear. I ... willing to carry a 12 volt battery, kept charged by the magneto. ...

... any good. For that they will need to be tested under compression in a spark plug tester. Chances ... diagram omits the wire bringing current to the battery post. You will want to install a wire from ... convenient place a wire would reach (under a seat, on the running board etc.). They were very ...

... I found out that it wasn't the switch but the battery was not holding a charge, I bought it last ... my T started. I'm going to put the new switch under the seat just in case I need it later

bdtutton

... with Rocky Mountain brakes. I have a full size battery and all my tools under the back seat to keep as much weight as possible on the rear wheels and I ...

bdtutton

... car and I use a full size 12v group 78 car battery. It is a side terminal battery and it fits nicely under the rear seat. The battery will easily run my turn signals, brake lights ...

Erik Johnson

... a 6 volt hotshot style dry cell battery. That would be just as period ... easily place a hotshot battery under the front seat and next to the passenger side of the ...

Colin Mavins

Back in the 60s it was a 6 volt VW battery under the back seat , DAD built a box for the battery. 6 volt batteries are hard to ...

I use a small 12v ATV battery tucked away behind the driver’s seat. If Lizzie fails to start easily I realize it’s run down ... I get 5 out of one, so that aint bad. Except mines under the rear seat since it's a touring.

JohnH

The leads connect to a 6V car battery. An alkaline 6V lantern battery can also be ... magneto operation. It's the kind of thing to keep under the seat for emergencies, but not as an instrument to provide best ...

... with my non-generator 1917 and it keeps the battery charged. If you have a lot of starts and ... a full-size battery, I have a Odyssey PC925 under the back seat. I have a charging pigtai from the battery tie-wrapped ...

So you can understand where I & others were coming from to actually point to a battery . Why the 12v: There have been numerous Forum discussions ... using a 12volt battery on a 6volt starter Why under the seat/no battery bracket: Size restrictions (smaller 350CCA battery ...

... the same as others) were just to trying to understand the constraints placed on a battery selection. Like some others, I don't know anything ... no battery bracket?" "What's the reason for under the seat?" "What do you have planned for charging the battery?" ...

... the same as others) were just to trying to understand the constraints placed on a battery selection. Like some others, I don't know anything ... no battery bracket?" "What's the reason for under the seat?" "What do you have planned for charging the battery?" ...

First question is why does it have a 12volt battery? Usually people do this for a weak starter ... no battery bracket? What's the reason for under the seat? What do you have planned for charging the battery? ...

... the shop that presently has a 12v Group 121R battery rated at 550CCA and a T starter & later hogshead retrofitted. Space under the back seat is very limited so we are looking at a way of minimizing ...

The red top batteries are compact and lightweight and long lasting. My '26 roadster has a 6 volt red top under the front seat and it works fine and stays clean. It charges off a stock generator and cut out. I don't know how old it is, but I've been using it for 3 years with no problems.

... the shop that presently has a 12v Group 121R battery rated at 550CCA and a T starter & later hogshead retrofitted. Space under the back seat is very limited so we are looking at a way of minimizing ...

For a "T" without a starter, I use a 6V dry cell flashlight battery to tickle the coils. Hide it under the seat. A fresh one will last 4-5 years if just used for starting.

Tractor Supply Company has a nice 6-volt battery, fits the Model T battery cage under the back seat. Lithium ion batteries seem wonderful right up until you see ...

... were added for the Touring body, under the rear door ahead of the rear seat. These brackets were used only in ... parts, holes were added for the new front body brackets in mid-1916, and for the battery bracket, starter switch, and battery ...

Allan

... wondering when someone would suggest an Optima battery. I would never use anything else nowdays. ... whatever you have on the floor in the back seat, grab some tools to undo the nuts and bolts ... originals are so scarce today. Allan from down under.

... run on mag, you can ALSO put a 12 volt battery in the car, as the coils will run just fine ... a Yuasa Motorcycle Battery in a (homemade) box under the back seat, all it powered was the coils for starting (since it's ...

Allan

... was negative or positively grounded? If the battery power is to enable the use of electric headlights, ... within the body of the car. You can't hide it under the back seat in a roadster. Without knowing what the purpose of ...

... as I keep working. I do have a battery disconnect switch waiting to ... it though that small lip at the front under the seat, but I'm hesitant to cut a hole in such ...

... a master disconnect switch under the front seat for the battery. Even before it gets to the starter switch. ...

I'm in the process of installing a master disconnect switch under the front seat for the battery. Even before it gets to the starter switch. I put a fuse in the system at the starter switch power years ago and will continue. My question is; ....will there be any generator damage if the fuse blows?

... lbs in the bed with 2 persons up front. It will ride and handle much ... fuel mixture from the driver's seat. If you choose to hand crank the ... not set correctly for starting. Under the right conditions, the engine ... The ignition can operate from the battery or from the magneto, and the ...

hull 433

... at all, it's about period style battery installations, and yours is ... Hi Erik, putting the battery under the front seat would make life pretty simple. Hope your ...

Erik Johnson

... put a six volt hot shot dry cell battery under the front seat, next to the passenger side of the gas tank ...

Jim11787

... out the top opening of the primary coil under the vibrator. The glossy tar like smudges ... system as Ford intended separate from the battery powered source. Thanks Robert. I agree in ... be installing a new float and needle valve and seat. My friend lent me 4 good coils to get it running ...

'27 roadster has red top battery lying on its side under the seat. It has caused no problems.

Reno Speedster

... location, put new bearings in the front end, new seals an outer bearings ... pans and carb heater, installed a battery horn, installed 5-1 steering ... made new floorboards and a panel under the seat, installed a steering column brace, ...

... - I don't have a generator either. My Odyssey battery rides under the back seat and is kept charged by a John Regan Hot Shot charger that uses ...

... is clearly a 1915 (March 15). Front fenders look handmade or after ... box on the running board has a battery which is wired to the metal dashboard. The front seat has a bead running horizontally ... the back. Wishbone is attached under the front axle; a good thing. ...

... outfit in an open car that runs well on either battery or magneto. It has an Optima 6 volt battery under the seat cushion. The turn signal wiring is fully exposed to the other ...

... that is connected to its own small 12 volt battery located under the seat. I've had no issues with it.

... boards they said "do NOT run a conventional battery, they're dangerous"... These were notable ... the coils for starting, installed it first under the back seat, then moved it into a compartamentlaized running board ...

I've had great luck with Odyssey batteries. I installed a PC-925 under the back seat of my touring.

I have one in my '16 Touring.
I installed a Model T battery carrier and set it at an angle like others have.

I also put one under the front seat, behind the gas tank on a '15 Roadster.

Depends on the car. 1919 or later I'd use the built-in battery carrier and make a box to fit it. Before 1919 you have to improvise (running board box, under a seat, etc.). I just put the battery for my 1915 runabout in the trunk.

FWIW here's the battery arrangement in my '11 Torpedo. And yeh there isn't crap for room to store anything under the seat! Thankfully mine came with a real nice wood tool box behind the gas tank.

... Runabout (Torpedo) did not have a separate battery box under the seat or elsewhere, though it certainly would be nice if it had one. ...

Aussie16

... have a common storage compartment under the full area of the front seats with a single lid over each area. It ... not really have room for a modern storage battery. If your battery compartment hangs ...

... for Torpedo owners. My 1911 Torpedo has a hole under the driver's seat with a wooden box hanging down from it. It is about ... 8 deep. The former owner had a small "power sports" battery in it to provide power to the coils. Is this "battery ...

Wayne Sheldon

... However. From the beginning, Ford supplied a battery connection and a switch to use a battery ... A torpedo with the gasoline tank behind the seat had a tool box storage area under the seat. Any battery wiring or placements on a brass ...

tom_strickling

... for Torpedo owners. My 1911 Torpedo has a hole under the driver's seat with a wooden box hanging down from it. It is about ... 8 deep. The former owner had a small "power sports" battery in it to provide power to the coils. Is this "battery ...

tom_strickling

... for Torpedo owners. My 1911 Torpedo has a hole under the driver's seat with a wooden box hanging down from it. It is about ... 8 deep. The former owner had a small "power sports" battery in it to provide power to the coils. Is this "battery ...

... The WOSP engages from the front and doesn't need the cup over ... my 1917 and it works great. The battery is a small AGM under the back seat which is kept charged with a Regan "Hot ...

bdtutton

... tried to mount a small standard acetylene tank under the car to run the lights? It would have to ... gas supplier. . As of now I have a 12v battery under the rear seat and halogen bulbs where the burners were. It actually ...

... starter (blasphemy) powered by a small AGM battery under the back seat. I keep it charged with a John Regan Hot Shot charger that uses ...

... I shall also put a 30 amp fuse in-between the battery + terminal and the foot operated starter ... also suggested that a "cheap toggle switch under the seat or something" could also go between the battery and ...

... limited height space, and your concerned about battery longevity and power, you can always put ... Yuasa sealed lead acid motorcycle batteries, under the rear seat of my 1915 touring car, because I had the room, and ...

I've been using a small 12 volt battery, about the size of a Model T coil for years in both of my 1913's. In my touring, it is under the back seat with my extra coils, and in my runabout it is in the tool ...

... I don't think pre starter Fords came with a battery but the ignition switch always had a battery ... weak. I have mounted batteries various places, under the rear seat, under floorboards. I don't like to mount them next ...

Michael Peternell

... compressor. It runs off the12 volt mower battery I use for the tail/brake lights and turn ... I did need one and was lucky enough to have it under the seat. resources_11caa2ac-c43b-4629-9d12-1382e5cdcd16-supplies.jpg ...

... compressor. It runs off the12 volt mower battery I use for the tail/brake lights and turn ... I did need one and was lucky enough to have it under the seat. resources_11caa2ac-c43b-4629-9d12-1382e5cdcd16-supplies.jpg ...

Norman Kling

... 2 inches is attached to the right under side of the plywood. The left ... panel and the strip of metal in front of the back seat riser laying on the left side of the ... be lifted out to gain access to the battery. Norm

... and fun to creatively put a 1914 gas tank under the seat, drill holes for the battery box, 1927 engine from Ed Henline, selling the 1912 rear to ...

... for the touring car and the sedan were under the rear floorboards. The batteries for the ... were in the rear "turtle". A special shaped battery was furnished for the Coupelet, to be placed under the seat next to the gas tank.

... you can put a big heavy disconnect between the battery and starter but with the solenoid it can be a simple cheap toggle switch under the seat or something.

Jugster

... snowmen and igloos in my parents' front yard is vivid as this morning's ... as I climb up into the front seat—and now my butt is freezing cold ... key, hopped back in, selected "battery" and she fired right up at ... too fast and just keeping the car under control was surprisingly hard ...

... that never had a starter. I hide my little AGM battery inside a 100 year old wooden box under the back seat of my touring. I chose 12 volts because I wanted to run certain ...

... the design. <https://www.modeltford.co.uk/> I understand that Buckeye in Ohio is their designated ... use a Fun Projects Hot Shot to charge a small battery under my back seat which is ample. For me, the WOSP has been trouble-free ...

Caswell

... hood, hood former, radiator and seat backs with black pleated canvas ... wheels, chassis and step. Yes, under the seat is still accessible ... under the seat is 8 3/4" High at front 6 3/4" High at rear with a width ... of space even with a full size battery in it.

... The shape is constrained by the desired seating (for 1or2), fuel tank size/shape, steering ... windshield, spare tire, head & tail lights, battery size/location and etc.. --Thinking that starting separate topics under that Forum could be initially started to try ...

My speedster doesn’t have a starter or generator. I just have a small motorcycle size battery under the seat. I use it for powering the coils when I hand crank and to run my lights. I just top charge it a couple of times a year.

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