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Ron, to answer your last question, Ford produced centerdoors from 1915-1922. I greatly enjoy mine and I’m 6’2” with a ‘full figured’ wife. It takes only a minute to remove the passenger seat and then a driver can easily take his seat and a passenger can easily be seated in the back seat. Without the...

Very interesting Bob. Thanks for sharing

I learned a few things. Always good....

Error of Opinion May be Tolerated Where Reason is Left Free to Combat It.....you would be correct Pat, if you’re referring to the KC Warford. It has gear synchronization due to its helical gears produced by a company building racing transmissions. Original Warfords utilize spur or straight cut gears...

Yes. Do it Rick. Go all the way and get a KC Warford. Safer and more efficient.

Thats 2 turn signals on the front fenders, do you have 2 on the rear fenders ? I’m very scared of being rear ended as I have my arm signal on. Great idea ! Thanks for sharing

There you go again Tom 🤔 Fantastic pictures with many displaying era humor 😁 The centerdoor - 11th from the bottom - appears to have a sort of ‘diaper’ fitted under the windshield and attached to the radiator filler neck. I presume this further protected coil box dampness during rain ? Many thanks f...

Jack in the middle of the front axle to position casters under both front wheels but jack on both axle housings to individually place your casters under each rear wheels. . But I’m with Allan. More fun with friends lifting...

Overwhelmed with nostalgia - again. Thanks Tom. Wonder what the contents of the bottles displayed against that ‘25 touring ? Law enforcement personnel posing. And a few centerdoor pictures appear to have unpainted wood around the windows...

They’re very easily driven out with a 3/8” brass punch since they’re dissimilar metals with no rust. I keep the old bushings and cut them about 1/8” beyond the flange. Needle bearings are controversial with this crowd. I use them with no problem on all my Ts then reinstall the cut off bushings....Or...

Good well wishes Norm ! Happy New Year to all my Forum Friends

and wrap the threads of your new petcock with that plumbers white Teflon tape.

You don’t need the Fordson House Dan. Go to forums.yesterdaystractors.com you’ll find Fordson experts there. Be sure to state ‘Model F’

Very interesting power plant Ted. I feel it deserves more comment. And I feel it’s ‘farm made’ but nicely cobbled up. The battery carrier in close proximity to the head mounted starter switch. Was that a half dollar coin on the rear of the intake manifold ? I sold a few rear power pulleys like that ...

Thats a T782.

I wonder what automobile that thang fit

Yes

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Yes. It’s the steel firewall for Model Ts. TTs were introduced in ‘17-‘18 so they might have had wood firewalls but a few in ‘23 would’ve had the low steel firewall. Then, when a dealership sold a TT chassis in ‘24-‘27, they’d have a “high” steel firewall just like the cars.

Interesting way of routing outside oil line. Never seen that before. Also might need accy bolt on rear pan-to-frame brackets. Congrats on scoring that engine !

I have just the 1915 windshield brackets with integral sidelight brackets - if that’ll help...

...Duh,.. I heard Model T floorboards were made outta crates in which Henry’s suppliers furnished parts....
Zat true ??

All very good points Jeff

Yes. I advised boiled linseed oil last Friday. You don’t boil regular linseed oil. You Buy boiled linseed oil at the hardware store. There’s a chemical difference between the two. If you simply brush linseed oil onto your spokes, forget about having paint or clear varnish to adhere.

Robert; if I understand your question correctly: the spindles have a top and bottom bushing - not the axle. Good advice: get the MTFCA front axle manual

The 4th from the top is the earliest Model T “form a truck” I’ve ever seen. It obviously has a brass radiator but I see brass bonnets on those carbide head lights. And the 1916 TN Ford with 1916 license plates already looks worn out...
Many thanks Tom for again making my day

...You place Dalmatians between jack stands and axles ????

I watched the trailer too. Movie misnamed. Should be Sodom and Gomorrah....no thanks...looking forward to ‘1923’ tho...

No, I’ve not had any experience with Keratex but you said your spokes “Are in apparently good condition”. My. Round felloe wheels on my ‘14 T are original to the car and spokes appear perfect. Before I painted them gloss black I brushed on a few applications of boiled linseed oil and denatured alcoh...

...but Pierce liked a restored T....

Ya think ya still have all your oil slingers fastened to the flywheel ?

Merry Christmas to all my Forum friends

Oh yes, rim and lock ring in excellent shape. Was on my C Cab until I found a set of earlier 23” wheels/rims. Thinking these would increase speed I changed them out.........wrong

Way to go Darel !! I was in the army beginning just 50 years ago and today I’m not very usable

On any item I have “FS” or “WTB”, I only request BTT once
And this is it.

...+ brake drum, lockring and nice nickel hub cap. New tire, no sidewall cracking. Ready to mount and go. Only $625... cannot ship... road trip to warm central Texas ??
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Scott, USPS flat rate box would be overkill for these shackles. Very small items are more efficiently shipped by FedEx. That’d be around $5. I’ve even used bubble envelopes to mail a few small T parts I’ve sold. Lately the ever increasing cost of mailing by all carriers eats into my asking/taking T ...

Make it....out of a coat hanger....and use needle nose pliers to bend wire.

Purchase price is reasonable. Shipping price is a little high.

He needs to get on the level. Even that Ruckstell can’t help at that angle...

Scott, et al,...that cut off touring in the pic I sent has had the top exactly like that for over the decade that I’ve known the owner. Hes satisfied with it...

Don’t feel too bad Mark. Heres the worst::

Is this the “rear spring hanger for a 1913 touring” you’re looking for herr kommandant ? It doesn’t have the oil hole on top. If so, I’d sell it
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I restored my ‘14 rear axle housings just like Allan. I might add that I used #8 bolts and nuts.

Rich; I always thought triple twist horns were mounted bell “up” and single twist like mine and Tim’s were mounted bell “down”.

Well, I’m going to take a big leap of faith and say .......that is NOT a Ford TT rear wheel..... you are Not the father 😜😜. I’m not aware of either size (23” or 20”) TT rear wheels having only 4 lugs. Here’s a pic of my TT 20” rear wheel. Doesn’t it appear my emergency brake drum is larger than your...

Also the movie ‘1923’ starring Harrison Ford debuts on 18 December. Check out its trailer....

And a 7’ Pitman Arm !! I’ll bet they’re rare !

It didn’t really happen unless you post pictures

You won’t like the horn on my ‘14, Original....I failed to paint it (all but the rim/screen) black.

Mebbe they want to catch the rainwater in their horn to make tea to drink with the food in their exhaust manifold cooker ?

Amazing ! Fantastic examples of aftermarket Model T bodies ! And I had no idea our Army utilized Ts for Post libraries 🤔 Every Army Post I’ve ever been to required 14-18 daily work hours and during the era of these pictures, I’m aware of a high degree of illiteracy in the ranks. Go figure. Also foun...

..just take everything up to Scott Conger in Clark WY.... ...seriously, if I understand your request; you have a mouse nest of a T motor and want to make it operable, huh ? Remove the pan. Remove the transmission. Remove the mag field coil. Get the MTFCA engine and transmission booklets and get to i...

Jim, your uncle is Jack Nicholson ????

We have so very much to be thankful for - corporately and individually. Happy Thanksgiving to all my Forum Friends !

Wow !! What a captivating odyssey I’ve been spending the last 40 minutes reading. Thank you Katie for sharing. You and family have made a smart decision with that 9 tooth pinion, accy transmission and disc brakes. You earlier mentioned ‘gravel’. That makes air pressure in innertube tires important. ...

Yes indeed; I’m so very sorry to hear of the death of someone enjoying the very activity we all aspire to. And a ‘head on’ accident in a Model T has an acorn steering wheel nut pointed right at the heart. I often consider this event and try to drive super defensively. So sad.

Its a low cowl. My ‘23 touring had top bow saddle brackets extending thru rear quarter panels like this picture.

They look very good to me considering the stated mileage. Not sooty but dry electrode area. Something I do and would recommend for these plugs is high speed wire brush the rusty metal below porcelain. Then mask porcelain. Finally, spray clear lacquer or enamel on the bright metal. With moderate usag...

Times Square ?

The only New and Improved touring (facing left) I saw looked like someone keyed it

Thanks for the come-back Jeff. The biggest difference between 17-20 for Closed Model Ts is crank starting (17-18) and starter motor/generator (19-20). Supposedly; when crank started, Ford supplied kerosene cowl and tail lamps. So, their absence allows me to guess your coupe is immediately after the ...

It could be a ‘17-‘21....when were suicide doors discontinued ? Any evidence of cowl lamp brackets ? If so, it’s a ‘17-‘18. Closed cars didn’t have cowl lamps; they were ‘electrified’. I’m not including those demountable rims. They were introduced in ‘19 but could’ve been changed out. Trunks were in...

Burma Shave - you axed for it:
Drinking drivers,
Nothing worse.
They put the quart
Before the hearse..

They’re also few and far between Scott

You’d just need to jack one rear wheel off the floor. Is this coupe new to you ? Have oil in crankcase ?

One of the last torpedo roadsters, huh ?.. Thank you Wayne. I learn something néw here every day.

Yes; welcome to the Forum Fred. We usually welcome to Model T-dom, but sounds like you’re no stranger there

“Good unrestored condition”, huh...Take us along vicariously as you work to get it roadworthy.

Finally !!.. a wonderful collection of yesteryear pics with no full grown adults sitting on hoods 😜 Thanks again Tom. But I’m curious about the 2nd to last photo. That’s a Ford T runabout behind the larger non Ford touring but it appears to have a bit of customization: full length brass windshield s...

Thank you Paul but I’m not on Facebook - not a friend of Zuckerberg.

But I’ll continue with Google searches...

Tim,
... I enjoyed your video of a short fall foliage road trip in your Fordor. But I couldn’t help but notice your spark and gas levers were fully retarded during the entire trip. I see you shift speeds with a KC Warford. Do you have a foot accelerator ? Any overheating problems? (Retard spark)

And the spare tire is absolutely threadbare. Homemade wagon canvas and hoops tells me they had no motel reservations

However ‘Centennial’ license plates are now highly sought after. Thanks John !!

Wusses !!.. Our local Vet Day parade scheduled for 0900 today was canceled by ‘organizers’ due to prognosticated rain showers around 1900 today in our drought stricken county 😞.. they must not have spent a monsoon season in the jungles of Panama or a winter in the mountains of Bosnia 😡 Anyway, heres...

And Dan.... if/when you elect to adjust that generator 3rd brush; select a 5/16” open end. NOT a pipe wrench

But the intake manifold is Original ‘13-early ‘14 aluminum and I chose to grind on the thick repop exhaust manifold.

.....Lots of frustration...removing and reinstalling new Langs exhaust manifold numerous times only to have humongous exhaust leaks. Finally I saw the reason. The new copper crush washers didn’t even get crushed. I’m using an original aluminum “high volume” intake manifold painted black and held in ...

....capable of transporting TT C Cab or centerdoor. So, need extra height. Please help....
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Our Veterans Day parade will be Friday, 11 November...Stand by for pictures...

Maybe the cable is dry ? Did you lube it prior to installation ?

Nope.... your coil box is correct for 1921. And it appears you have some nice accessories: spare tire carrier for one. Your brake pedal implies external contracting rear brakes too

Good move Dan....if you were more familiar with your T’s performance, you just might realize a very minor improvement in its ‘peppyness’. Some time ago someone long lost to memory dyno’d a T engine with and w/out a water pump and with and w/out a generator and showed a tiny horsepower increase. Yes;...

Good on you Dan ! You’re way ahead of the game ! You have an Anderson timer ! They’re the best. And you have a modern oil seal on the cam gear cover. Don’t use grease or oil on/in it. Just a dab of Vaseline on the flapper and 4 contacts.

To answer your initial question: Two years ago I sold 1913 specific NOS Victor #1 cowl lamps along with a nice Victor #1 tail lamp for $750.

Replied both. Many thanks for your interest !

Many thanks Tim

...How would you recommend I structure a Google search for this trailer ?

Sure ! however, Darryl has chosen the one on top and the one on the right...

The other two would clean up nicely by bead blasting...

One and only ‘Back to Top’

One and only ‘Back To Top’

Verrrry interesting !...... 2nd picture of ‘New and Improved’ pickup with much earlier style kerosene cowl lamps

Yes, I did find 2 I’d sell. What are they worth ? One has original paint. One is in primer and 2 have original machine screws/square nuts. Remember, Joe Biden caused the 9% inflation rate

They’d easily be sent in a bubble envelope.....gwhouse731@gmail.com

I have 2 I’d sell. Let me go look and send a picture.
george

Here’s my ‘19 centerdoor dash. Hope this helps. I might have another metal dash hanging up. Email me if you need it. I’ll look tomorrow...forgive the dangling horn button. I lost the top-of-column sheet metal cover.

....for wooden lid of a KW Master Vibrator. See pictures, including artistic repair to the front lid by my late daddy.😁 I know Don Lang has sets of 4 for sale but that leaves me with 2 lower components. Will buy irreparably damaged lid w/ upper hinges or latter by themselves. Thank you for looking. ...

WTB: Enclosed Model TT hauler trailer. Must be 18’ long. A 20’ won’t allow me to clear my front gate. Must be taller than average - 90” minimum “beaver tail” ramp. Prefer 8’ x 8’ interior and V nose. Please help.....
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Speaking strictly Model years; 1918-22 roadsters used the same top sockets. 1923-25 are interchangeable. Then ‘26-‘27 are same.

Shannon,

I believe Adrian did that above at 11:22 last Tuesday....

The WR head on my centerdoor makes it scary fast.

I’d buy another for $300 but wouldn’t sell this one for $500 so I agree - again - with Scott.

Thanks for the research and info Richard. A railroad accident, huh ?!!! Tons of crumpled steel acting on flesh and bone

Once again; totally interesting pictures of era Model T s. Don’t know how you do it Tom but much appreciated. And 2 adults sitting on the hood !? Must be > 200 pounds! The disabled man in the ‘14 touring: might he be a WW I veteran in a 5-7 year old T. And handling spark, gas and steering wheel with...

Excellent progress Dan ! However the fan bracket bolt doesn’t use a fastening nut. That bolt is cotter pinned. Yeah, take that fan bracket bolt shim out and cotter pin that bolt. See the holes ? A lot of people added water pumps to try and correct an overheating problem when the problem usually is i...

I wouldn’t try to milk those “cows” Pat.... Their testicles may get in the way and horns may do you some damage.

That, I don’t know Tony. Since I’m not a Stynoski level restorer, I didn’t research that far. That concave metal panel is unseen so I wouldn’t think so.

Well, Shoot !!! That underseat shot I previously sent turned out to be a danged video that lasted a half second... sorry...Heres a few more that you can zoom on

george

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