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The notches on the front end of the fore-door are there for relief for the special bolts nuts that are used to mount the side lamp brackets.

John,
You are one up on me. This is my second. I have no desire to tie with you!

There are two types of Model T drivers:
1) Those who have broken a crankshaft.
2) Those who will brake a crankshaft.

Winter project...

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Keith

John-
Broken cranks are a mystery. I think the #1 reason is a bent pan that contributes to metal fatigue. When I put this engine together the short block was done. I straightened the pan, put the transmission on and have had nearly 30 years of trouble free touring.

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Steve- Thanks for sharing. That fore-door appears to be Beaudette. The nailed-on trim tells me it was made sometime before body B-22927. Later Beaudette bodies had a rolled-in bead. The hole in the top left is likely where a carriage bolt was used to attach a bracket. The hole on the right is where ...

Neal, As I said in my previous post, I have not researched the Benson Archives. My empirical data is based upon surviving original samples and original photographs from known cars. That said, I have seen many different ways and different hardware used for attaching fore-doors. Sometimes wood screws ...

I broke the crankshaft in my 1915...

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Neal- Superb work on your fore-doors! I sincerely hope that you put them on the car. We need to have more late 1911 cars on the road with fore-doors. I found a set for Pete Ratledge (RIP), too. Although he restored them, he never put them on. I think they look cool and were only used for a couple of...

Thanks for the ride, Rob.
Have you been sending pictures and videos of your progress to Wayland?

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More like 1918-1922

Richard,
Originals show up on Tbay occasionally. The repros are disappointing compared to originals. I have a pair of reproduction rear.
Keith

Early Buicks used an acetylene starting system.

Mike, I'm out of town today, but will be back in Gresham in a day or two. Then off to Prineville for the Portland Regional Group HCCA Annual Scenic Tour. Tell Galen I said, "Hi."

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Keith

Scott,
Mine measures about 24"

-Keith

Beautiful work, Hank!

But what is it? A floor pan?

-Keith

Joe, Where is the tag attached? Since you are in Ontario and the American AutoTrimming Co tag is marked Walkerville, is the car Canadian? If so, it would have a Wm Gray & Sonds body on it. That is the body number? Look on the seat frame in front of the gas tank cover, and in the underside of a back ...

Here is the Reeder head on my 1915.

Here is the Reeder head on the 1911.

At the water outlet on both of them is the number 4.

Joe,
Would you please post a picture of it?
Do you have the original data plate on the dash, too?

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Richard,
If you have access to a roller that has a removable end, you could slip the bracket in and run it back and forth between bends.

Maybe turn a wood block down on your lathe, bolt the bracket on and hammer into place maybe use your hot wrench too

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Keith

Scott- I am running two high compression low Reeder heads. One on my 1915, one on my 1911. They look like stock Ford heads with script. REEDER is cast into the inside on the water outlet. The combustion chamber is relatively flat, unlike the V shape combustion chamber of the Z head. (I run one of th...

Well done, indeed!

On the right is a statue of a weeping angel. Don't close your eyes, Doctor...

John,
No need to hurry. Just get well.
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Keith

Richard,
I eventually gave up and soldered mine together and attached it to the firewall. I put a couple of fake screw heads to make it look like the shield is attached to the top floor board.
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Keith

Are there really only 8 of us?

Check is in the mail...

John, There is nothing in my inbox, or spam folder.
I sent an e-mail to you...

I'll take it.

Until you can get a replacement, take it out, run a 3/8-24 die on it to clean up the threads, then put that end onto the block, and put your manifold clamp back on. Run you nut on tap to clean up your threads and put it back together...

Happy Independence Day!

I wish I were closer...

1909. I wonder if it is a two lever?

Re: Unrestored 1909 Model T auction ending 6/17/23 Mike- Any pics?

Mike-
Any pics?

You need a two contact plug for that socket, like this:

https://www.modeltford.com/item/6592X.aspx

It is hard to tell from your photos, but they look like very wide single contact plugs, which would make a short on the double contact socket, thus letting out the magic smoke.

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Keith

Larry,

I believe I read somewhere, or saw an original image, that the adjustable end was used at the steering column end. That being said, on my cars I have the adjustable end at the carburetor end. I find that location much more convenient if carburetor swapping occurs.

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Keith

48 star flag for most of my cars...

47 star for my 1911.

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Keith

An MC tank will work for short periods of show for a static display only.

If you want to run acetylene lights, get a B tank and mount it on the running board.

Email sent

text sent.

Bump to the top.

My 1921 American LaFrance had Alemite grease fittings.

Congratulations.
And Thank you!!!

Norm,
I think that's how my muffler was constructed.
Keith

I have a very nice set of Hayes wire wheels that have been powder coated. Unfortunately the brake drums were powder coated too. Both inside and out. I plan to use outside brakes along with the inside parking brakes. What is the best way to remove the powder coating to get down to bare steel? 2023051...

Jim,
After removing the capacitor, I cut the dovetails 1/4" deeper then cut the ends off.
Keith

None of my cars have generators. I rewired for LED bulbs to run off the battery, now I have constant brilliant light while drawing a fraction of an Amp.
I love 'em!

Jim,
I modified KW type coils to fit and function in a Heinze coil box. I can run either original Heinze coils or my modified coils.

Larry- I think so. I have a 1913 coil box that I had on my 1911 for a while, but it would have a slight miss. If I took it off and bolted on an ugly steel coil box, it would work fine. I double checked the switch and all the wiring, but could never find the source. I can't see any carbon tracking, b...

What is the O ring size used in the modern style rear axle grease seals? I have a pair that need new O rings.

I do have a set of original felt style...

Thanks,

Keith

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Good looking car.
The springs for the backrest are upside down.

Jim, Regarding coil letters, the following was written by RV Anderson: The letters aren't quite random. The following is an excerpt from an article I'm working on: "It appears that, of all the different coils that Heinze built, only those built for the Model T have the letters. The first time they a...

Bob, I made one if those, too!

I also made an adapter for Heinze coils for the HCCT.

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Keith

Just make sure you have the right size. The OD of the axle housing is a little smaller pre-1919 and larger from them on. A Ruckstell housing uses the larger size.

Doug, I had the same issue with the radiator on my 1911. When I toured their shop last September I mentioned it. They said the leave them long on purpose in case people want to add a rubber tube to the overflow. I suggested they put that information on their website or at least share that informatio...

I was last in communication with Pete at the beginning of the month. He said that he was at home on hospice. He had found a caretaker for the car and sold it a couple of weeks before but the buyer asked that his name not be shared. I asked Pete to pass along my contact information to the new buyer. ...

Anyone have a spare Fronty exhaust manifold?

-Keith

Thanks, Tom! The first car looks to be a Hayes bodied touring. If I had to put a date on it, I'd say 1912. The side curtain fastener are at the top of the fore-door. Earlier cars had the side curtain fasteners at the bottom of the door opening, like on the non-fore-door cars. My car has them under t...

coil box is on its way...

Sorry Bill for all your hard work to go down the drain. I hope the flood refugees get back on their feet soon!
I plan to come to the swap meet next year.
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Keith

Perry,
This looks like a 1915-1922 type coilbox with a 1913 type Master Vibrator switch on it.
Keith

The Portland Swap Meet begins tomorrow, March 31. The "Always in April" swap meet continues through Sunday April 2. Rain (most likely) or shine, come on out and see me at the HCCA booth in the northeast corner of the D building. Look for the big yellow banner!

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Keith

I am so sad to hear this. I knew that he had been struggling for a while. Two years ago while on the National Tour in Spokane, I saw that he was on the list of tour participants and wanted to meet him. I found him and we had a nice conversation. I'm glad that I took the time to seek him out and meet...

Both are sold!
Thanks MTFCA

Is this priced too high?

Holding the speedo for Bruce.
Holding the swivel for Morgan.

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Holding for Tom...

Stewart Model C, correct for 1913 in very nice condition. Untested, but drum turns when input is turned. $150.

Rebuilt swivel, 2-1/2:1 Rebuilt, very nice. $275

Price is firm, selling for widow.

Free delivery to the Portland Swap Meet this coming weekend.

Limited quantity of NOS Kingston coil points.
$7.50 per set.
Free Delivery to the Portland Swap Meet this coming weekend.

This aluminum hogshead with lettered pedals will need some repair where the last hole closest to the block is broken.
$75 Free delivery to Portland Swap Meet this coming weekend.

This looks like a beautiful pan with all the correct features. I wish mine had been this nice!

Nice round gas tank 1913-1920 $225
Free delivery to Portland Swap Meet this weekend.

Interested.
Pics?
Email sent

Darel, one day I asked Fred why he painted it red? He replied, "At the time I always wanted a red Model T." He had restored this car before he got #220 from Kim. I used this car as my guidance when I was doing the upholstery and top for my 1911. Pat, I agree that the car looks fine in red and it is ...

I thought we had our winter's last hurrah last month, but here is a shot from this morning...

*sigh*

Few more pics...

I am listing for a friend who has a magnificent 1911 Model T that was restored by the late Fred Lau of Portland, Oregon. Red Fred 11.JPG Some of Fred’s cars were featured in Bruce McCalley’s books From Here to Obscurity, and Model T The Car That Changed the World. It has a show quality restoration a...

Nice work.
I've never had a car with a starter. I hope with the starter button so far forward won't be an issue. I wonder if it could be recessed to avoid unwanted engagement?

I made my chains 40+ years ago. I modified two sets of chains using pieces on one to lengthen the other. I have no idea what size I used. I was just a kid! 20230304_070218.jpg I usually use rubber straps for tension, but use these yellow modern chain tighteners last week. 20230223_100432.jpg My chai...

Doug,
Are you looking for top irons, or top sockets?
I've got some 1914 type top irons.
I'll send you some pictures.
-Keith

A friend of mine has a 1908 REO one cylinder and it has this National coil on it. REO coil 1.jpg I would like to do some diagnostic testing on it. Does anyone have any wiring diagrams for one of these? I'm going to guess the large contact in the center would be for the spark and is missing a big ins...

George, I say if your item:
1) was not lost and actually arrived
2) was not damaged
3) was not stolen off your porch after it was delivered,

It was a win - win - win.

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Keith

What is wrong with acetylene?

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I love the patchwork!
Andre, how wonderful that you have worked on this car!

What number is it?

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Moved my 1919 from the shop garage to the house garage so my son could put his modern iron in the shop for repairs.
It was cold, about 30*, but nice and sunny so Ruby and I took a quick spin around the neighborhood.

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The only low head with Ford script that I know of is the Reeder Head. Out of production for decades now, they turn up in classified ads and at swap meets occasionally but getting really hard to find . I love mine.

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Tom, I bought a hand crank winch that has a strap from Harbor Freight. A couple of advantages: No wiring required. No metal cable to mar the trailer. No remote to loose or potentially have a dead battery. No restriction on cranking time.

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Keith

Scott- Neither. I have a friend who has an attachment for his flaring tool that makes a bulge at the end. We used that and it worked great. Otherwise I would solder ferrules on to the ends even though they not made that way back then. No clamps. When the hose is in place you can't tell the bulges ar...

Scott what "sharp bends" for the passenger side? There were no sharp bends for 1911.
What year are you working on?

Here is an image of (I believe) Kim Dobbins' 1910 passenger side:

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Scott- Larry and I have been talking about converting 1/4" or 5/16" T barbs. The outside diameter needs to be 3/8", inside 1/4", and a total length of 7/8" Brass barb T fitting.jpg Cut the ends off and drill it out. Easy peasy. Way more easy than the labor you and I put into making ours. I look for ...

Tom,
I'm thinking that picture #18 where they are fixing the left front flat tire, is the same car second from the bottom. The both have windshield rods and no top. Clearly the second from the bottom is a 1911 based upon the rear axle.
Thanks for the pictures!
-Keith

I love the Brassworks flat tube radiator on my 1911. It even keeps the car cool in a slow paced parade on a hot day. Although the tubes are flat, it has the appearance of an original. I have a re-cored radiator on my 1919 (45 years ago) and it also keeps the car cool, but was done at a local shop an...

I went last year and enjoyed it very much.
I was planning to go again, but we're not able to attend this year...
Oh well. 2024.

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Keith

I have seen outtakes of that wheel making before, but not the whole thing!
Thanks for sharing!

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Keith

Happy New Year!

Gregory- For US production, the 1911-1912 cars were dark blue. Some dark blue spilled over into 1913 and even some in 1914. However, much of the 1913 and the vast majority of 1914 cars were black. However, Canadian cars were dark blue far longer than US production. Is your car Canadian? If so, I bel...

What are these? They were in with some Model T tools and parts.

They kind of resemble clutch finger screws. Opposite of the slot end is a spring loaded ball. Model A perhaps?

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Keith

Bryan, If your local gas folk won't fill and return your offset B tank, I'd suggest to ask them to notify you when one comes in. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. I have a B tank on my car that has a brass "collar" near the neck that has a Prest-O-Lite logo on it. I too...

William,
You could swap out the firewall with a standard 1914 full width and height firewall and then attach the windshield with a couple of vertical supports like were used on the open runabout from 1911.

I would think electrical conduit would work fine.

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Keith

The problem with using an acetylene MC tank for Model T headlamps is it will not provide adequate acetylene supply for the lamps to be safely used continuously. You can only use an MC tank for brief demonstration purposes. I have to put on my safety guy hat here: "To minimize the withdrawal of liqu...

What is the deadline?

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