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Time for a new rod

anything else will be a waste of valuable time

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need to clarify if it is the lighting loom or the timer wiring

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If a band fully locks up the drum in low or reverse, it's tight enough. Brakes are their own animal, as you should always do your "slowing down" with the throttle and use brakes to come to a full stop and hold it there. Pumping brakes is a misuse of their designed purpose though it is safer on the d...

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That just makes an aggravating job more aggravating! ;) I install dry onto the steel bands and insert dry into the transmission (with hog's head removed). Then after hog's head is securely assembled, I VERY SLOWLY pour 2 quarts of oil OVER the bands and the remainder into the normal oil filler up fr...

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Steve Jelf

...you're searching the wrong term...try "ball sizing"

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One linguistic quibble with you Dan...I wouldn't call it a change date, as qty of 100 per day is a drop in the bucket to fulfill production needs...I would consider it an introduction date Not trying to make something out of nothing...I only mention this because you're a darn good source of informat...

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Ford Service Bulletin shows how to make a series of progressive larger tapered burnishing tools to size triple gear bushings and encouraged FORD agents to thusly treat all bushing replacements in this manner. Drawings with dimensions was supplied and FORD recommended that the burnishers be made from...

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Morgan two thing are imperative when installing Kevlar... 1. the hog's head must be rebuilt with fresh/new pedal supports (ramps) and the pedals built up and ground to match the supports. Further, there should be very little neutral dead-band at neutral and when the band is fully locked up there sho...

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What you're describing is how I seem to recall most fellows seem to do when using multiple transmissions...meaning both shifters are located near each other in the center of the floorboard. This almost necessitates some sort of auxiliary foot throttle...not mandatory, but is of great utility.

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Jacob fellows in the Rocky Mtn region and So. Dakota region very commonly equip their cars with both Warford (or Warford style) transmissions coupled with a Ruckstell. Perhaps change your title to encompass their cars and seek advice from them, too. There are going to be far more cars thus equipped ...

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can't see much, but if the idle pickup is submerged in fuel and fuel height is not so high as to be flowing out of the (hidden) overflow pipe, then you've got it.

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well, for heaven's sake, I missed where you pulled the head - once again I've offered a bit of bad advice...any valve guide wear will be taken care of by your shop.

I think I should just sit this thread out and keep my opinions to myself !

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Just reread every post including my especially bad advice! still thinking about the rich/lean issue I cannot help but believe that if spark is getting there, then there is too much air getting to some cylinders despite intake passages being contained within the head. What is exposed to the outside w...

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Jeff I cannot imagine where you acquired data that indicated sales of 100, but can state with confidence, after marketing multiple parts, all of which I determined would be "winners", were not, and the one product made to fix my father's car and only my father's car, has unexpectedly sold in very si...

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too funny!!

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The future is not going to be kind to that drill-press frame. It may make an interesting show-bike but I'd think anyone who could spell "stress analysis" would be nervous taking it out on the road.

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John

they already did

twice

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Skyler "level" on the float is usually a good point to aim for. However...what is the buoyancy of the new float? What is it's thickness? When it is level, what is the depth of the fuel in the bowl? let's say an original float sat "level" when everything worked perfectly...now install a thicker float...

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For Fred:

While it's fun for folks to speculate, the fact is that records exist that say that frame stamping to match the engine serial number was done for the first time on 12th of December 1925 and that number was 12,861,044

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Skyler you are clearly running far too lean...why that is is pretty much a guessing game, but here goes: 1. you do know how to enrich the fuel mixture, right? 2. your new float can possibly be too buoyant and shut the float valve prematurely, keeping the fuel level too low in the bowl - this can lea...

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Try giving Fred Dimock a shout...he is in the Raleigh area and was last on the forum in May

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So, it's really "The curse of old tires" and it's funny because I was thinking the only thing that might legitimately lead to multiple bent rims and failed attempts was just that: old tires it isn't a belief that old tires are less pliable than new tires, it's pretty much a fact. Having done it myse...

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Love the 1942 photo, and am glad you had a great time with friends changing out the rear end. What a nice day that must have been.

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get help from someone locally who has done it - I don't think any amount of words in any combination will fix this problem...only experienced hands will there is no point wrecking one part much less multiple parts...the hobby is too large and too populated to not be able to find help. I hope your pl...

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I realize the key is still covered by the stuck wheel, but even so, diagnosing this without pix is like calling the doctor on the phone and asking if this mole is suspicious. :? FWIW, if the axle is spinning free of the wheel, it is hard to imagine that you need a puller looking forward to the pix.....

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Allan, if you ever make it to Wyoming, I will show you 4 more, the likes of which you've never seen

and then after that, I'll treat you to a short trip over to Yellowstone to see geysers and other natural wonders, the likes of which you've never seen

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I have no opinion on the originality of the paint, but I do know this: having been flooded in salt water and then allowed to molder, I doubt that any of us knows exactly what a particular paint or paint color would do under those circumstances.

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Rich, I am guessing you used to run an NH? if so, on top of a superior (expensive) design of your 5 ball, you are benefiting from the enormous float bowl and a very consistent fuel level...it's a wonderful thing! On our side of the Rockies, we're drowning in very unusual amounts of rain and chill (B...

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after some thought, I think we should celebrate for Terry on him accomplishing what he set out to do so long ago, and simply leave the kibitzing on methodology alone...it accomplishes nothing other than to diminish the results and that was not the point of his first and follow-up postings. Glad you'...

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Finally, here is a picture and a link to it, which show cross sections of original, matched, felloe/rim combinations that came on FORD cars: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/app.php/gallery/image/169 Note: the "B" configurations were considered fully interchangeable be aware that Firestone and others manufa...

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Scott on your 2nd picture, you may wish to believe the "mashed" area is modified, but I assure you it is not modified; that's how it came from the factory. I am in the process of restoring a '23 runabout with those exact "mashed" felloes. They are Hayes felloes. with respect to rim wobbles where the...

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Scott both of those wheels are as they were made at the factory. There are no post-manufacture alterations which can be seen in the photos. Period Hayes and/or Ford 2845B rims will fit either felloe as they were designed to be interchangeable. My experience has been that 100% of Hayes rims fit eithe...

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No one said to use old gears As far as manufacturers smartening up and drilling holes, maybe they already pointed out that to drill the hole, you'd essentially be removing a tooth, and they even supplied a picture pointing out that fact. Reading replies (not just the title) on the Forum can provide ...

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...when hope meets facts...sometimes the answer isn't what some want to hear

when FORD said to clean from the front, you had to line up the gear teeth to clear the hole and then use a speedo cable to roto-rooter it...straight tooth gears made it a lot easier than the newer gears

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Happy Birthday Darel...and wishes for many more healthy ones, too boot!

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Allan

thanks for that...duly noted and my error...that certainly changes the equation.

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Vernon

the guy who "rebuilt" the starter should know the stall torque as part of acceptance testing, and forward that information to you if requested. I wouldn't hold my breath, but that info really should be available to you.

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...very nice

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You're welcome

I'm glad things went well (that solder flowed nicely, didn't it?)

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one day out of the blue, someone asks: "Is there a rare thingy made of unobtanium available anywhere on the planet?" a scant 30 minutes later, an answer miraculously appears from the ether: "yes, I have one and I'll sell it" one day later after much futzing around: "never mind" the fact that this ga...

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First, no T ever came with a socket in/on the dash. What those two pins are for are known only to the installer unless you have put a meter on them Second, every trouble light I've ever seen was meant to go into a headlight socket. The long bar will not/should not short anything out...it will simply...

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Mark

that is a good way...it's the way I cut them and it requires no lapping - the car will run in and form a perfect seal in just a few seconds

I suspect that Edwin may actually have bought a 46 cutter, but in any event, either will work

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oh my...

those pix do not bode well for the rest of what you cannot see.

There is nothing on that silver painted Bendix that you want to use.

Good luck.

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Congratulations! That's an exciting major step. After you're sure there are no leaks or other troubles, do your old block a favor and switch the water out for coolant and preserve what remains of the integrity of the block for yourself and future generations.

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They look nice, but aren't the first or only place they ever have been found: https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=22116

It'll be interesting to see how long they keep steady stock for what is a fairly small market.

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...fabulous!

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Vern

was this the car which was flooded?

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Good for you

is that a vacuum attachment? If so, that's an idea I may steal!

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William that is a model 37 two spring 8 day clock (huge watch, really) which often came as a fold out travel clock. When thusly sold, it had either a threaded back or threaded bezel which captured the leatherette fold-out on the case depending on the style of the case. I am going to suggest that you...

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I remember quite a while ago (when I still had a TV) that there were these crazies, going around destroying antiquities and cultural monuments. They were clearly having a ball. Toward the end of the clip, we were told who they were...someone who we had never hear of but would soon be famous: TALIBAN...

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Well then, I sure wish the gov't would paint the old jeep I'm driving. It really needs it.

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How many Dodge Chargers were crashed? I don't know, but I do know that none of them were more than a decade old or so, and were routinely still on the road as private vehicles. This is how this generation enjoys themselves. What a slap in the face to all parents who have brought up respectful, intel...

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John is correct

it is a Uniform Pitch series 16UN (Unified National) thread, or 5/8-16 specifically

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Terry glad you got it sorted out...thanks for the update. It sounds as though you have set yourself up as the Manufacturer of your vehicle, meaning you created it out of whole cloth and it is brand new. Not the path I'd have taken, but I do get that you were frustrated in all other attempts to get t...

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Ron while I agree with everything you stated, one nit I'd pick is this: those sizes were likely not just Euro-centric. I believe that they are as American as Apple Pie. Working on carbs, one must have every tap/die known to man, and a few known only to the Good Lord himself. Every size tap/die you m...

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...BOT....

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the little bit funny oil doesn't surprise me...it takes only a fractional amount of water to make oil look odd...I foolishly started a T at about "0" degrees 2 winters ago and shut it down long before it got warm. I ended up with 2 stuck valves the next summer. After I got it running, I changed the ...

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Hank

you are darn close to getting into the Model T hobby...

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oops!!

and so he did!

thanks Jerry

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Noel very glad that you worked methodically through the issue and even happier for you that you discovered the root cause and worked that issue rather than work contributing causes which would have solved nothing. I am greatly suspicious that you lost the welch plug, overheated and lost some preload...

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I don't need to even see it to know that it is a perfect allegory for the state of our society. Now, how exactly did this thread advance the state of our hobby? It didn't. Why would someone call attention to this video in the first place? for the pure sake of stirring controversy well done - mission...

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Well it had to happen eventually I suppose...

when you are congratulated by a ChatBot for not falling for a human scammer, the world is about to end...

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Has been discussed many times on the forum.

Just takes some homework.

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Well, that's progress!

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Bob is good people

I'm sure you had a very nice time!

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Huh! that's a first for me not a big deal to pull the head but I'd sure want to do a bit more diagnostic work first...I'm trying to see how/where a compression leak leads to the water jacket where it doesn't impact compression severely. I'd expect any pressure that blows out welch plugs would more l...

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the freeze plug may have fallen out but it didn't blow out...T cooling systems do not build pressure

what exactly do you expect to find by pulling the head?

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Like I said...

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the only thing I'd change is replace the spark plug wires with barbed wire so that it can hurt you even when it is not running.

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I think it gives better advice than sometimes can be found here with a live respondent

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Not that you have to do this... I always take the valves to my engine guy and let him kiss them to assure that nothing got knocked out in handling. Once perfect at 45 degrees, do a 3 angle seat with a 46 degree seat which will "pound in" in a few seconds of running for a perfect seat. I consider thi...

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The good news is that Bob has either driver's side or passenger's side depending on where he ships them. Only have to stock 1/2 the normal amount of parts that way?

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right or wrong, I map the guides to take 6 measurements per guide: top, 0 and 90 degrees, middle, same, bottom same you'll usually find a bit of an hourglass shape in the guide and I'd bet that's why you are showing not terrible wear (in the middle) while still having wobble? from what I recall, you...

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whether or not done by hand, they were all but certainly done at the factory

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well, what not to do is drill it free-hand...I've had to fix a few of those and it takes awhile someone will step in eventually and help you out...just wait and request it as necessary In any event, I've never done an Improved Ford but suspect that the firewall will present an obstruction to this wo...

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You're about to receive brand-new conflicting advice

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Not a problem, but you need to make a guide for the reamer: IMG_20171113_121028187.png IMG_20171113_120823027.png IMG_20171113_122100421b.png and after that, you'll need to cut new seats for the new valves...the Neway Cutter product is first rate and if you call them, they know Model T's and will bu...

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Wonderful Stuff!

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Ed I learned that when I bought a car with 90Wt or otherwise heavily doped oil (true). I changed oil and the #1 rod pounded. I reshimed and scraped it and it lasted 10 miles. Shimmed/scraped again...bad in 10 miles. Pulled hogs head to change bands and found oil line clogged. Unclogged, new bands, a...

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Edwin this is why I coach every owner with a new-to-them-T to pull the right front pan bolt out and start the car...if oil doesn't emanate from that hole toot-sweet, then for sure they have a clogged line like you found. It is not uncommon. Sorry to hear about the washer, and FWIW, that funnel is wh...

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Bucking and snarfing on hills? Surging? Can't keep up? Just HAVE to have a fuel pump?? It's probably because you're handicapped with a bad repro float valve which strangles fuel flow! All Full Flow Valves come standard with a LEAD washer to get the best seal possible. go from standard repro on the l...

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Hank your skills are visible from across the room your craftsmanship is only visible up close folks, if you want to know how much care goes into his creations, just look and see that every screw is oriented with slots vertical there are a lot of excellent welders...and Hank is one of them there are ...

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Chris don't solder the contacts after installation...the bolts will take enough heat that the plastic may go soft. EVERYTHING MUST BE CLEANCLEANCLEAN!!! drill a hole in a piece of wood to fit the bolt flux and solder the underside of the bolt head then shake off the solder flux the tab install bolt ...

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Beth, I towed my runabout from FL to WY on a UHaul trailer. Folded the upper windshield down and used 18" wide stretch wrap around the lowered top...many layers. Towed just fine. Just be sure to put a sandbag (child's sandbox sand) on the floorboards and remove the seat cushions. No problem. We stop...

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"Missing trim pieces" take a look at your radiator shell now take a look at the picture that Dan posted: 26 27.jpg can you now see that your entire radiator flange is now covered? Look at the Lang's link I supplied. You will see these pieces. as far as "fixing" things, there is absolutely no reason ...

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I don't think anyone is saying "you don't have it right". You just don't have ALL of it and that is why your radiator supports are exposed...you're still missing trim pieces. Additionally, if the thimble cannot come "up" through the upper shell and the shell has a slot (not a hole), then the shell i...

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The wood around the pedals is the same red color and the red mat has bleached to near tan in places. I have my doubts that it was made red and am more inclined to believe that someone mopped on a dye of some sort.

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how far off the hood shelf should the radiator flange be when set up correctly? Once you fit the missing parts to your shell that I listed, they will dictate where/how things should be mounted (as well as hood fit will) Now, if your shell has slots and will not allow the thimble to fit through, the...

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Duane they DID overheat back then, if allowed to operate continuously when running, a coil spends much more time at rest than firing particularly when running on MAG take a look at a roller timer and you'll note that for every period a coil operates on DC, it cools off for 7 periods, and as mentione...

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You're not far from getting it... one thing you're missing now that you've shown this view, are the little trim pieces which rivet to the end/bottom of the shell: 3947LB & 3947RB For info: https://www.modeltford.com/item/3947LB.aspx with these missing, it makes it look like there is an unplanned gap...

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Chris simply drawing the bolt in may possibly damage the porcelain tubes use a small metal stump that fits into the recess and use it along with a vice or press. With the plastic fully supported around the outside, press the bolts home and they will force the plastic to flow and make a nice tight sq...

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Burger

you are so right. Nothing west of the Mississippi matters back east unless it happens in California. And if it happens in California, we out West don't care so long as it STAYS in California.

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Sounds like you plan to significantly exceed the duty cycle. Prepare for it to get hot, or very hot.

If after using it thusly, you intend to replace it back into your coil box, carry a spare coil.

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FWIW - you needed a fuel pump to squeeze the fuel through a badly designed repro float valve Not haranguing, just making a point for others in the future who are convinced that a fuel pump must be in their future. It doesn't have to be. I'm looking forward to your drive report on the Air Friction. L...

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Craig in my younger, snootier life, I'd have turned my nose up at a Unimat. I'm older/wiser and now have an appreciation for them and what they can accomplish...they're perfectly adequate for what I do, but having been an apprenticed watchmaker as my first adult job, I have an abundance of watchmaki...

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Matthew

when it comes to hills, I would bet that your NH's are NOT stock. The reason is, I'll bet that they've been rebuilt, and if so, the float valve is a repro with a too-small through hole. Because of this, fuel does not flow as readily into the bowl particularly on hills

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I'm expecting that damage to someone's wallet will be extensive but not yet fully determined

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Hey Mark...

no guts, no glory!

but yes, I'm with you...

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For $25 you can read all about it https://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Carbshop_lit_carbs_other.htm view the patent here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US1088181 I would think that a safe bet is to start your car and warm it up...then remove the carb and install the Air Friction Carb...loosen the w...

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