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Trent B,
Unfortunately, that has been a problem within the hobby for a very long time! Way too many details have been 'corrected' on model Ts because restorers wanted to make their car 'right'. Not many 1914 style open cars are left with their original early 1915 engines as they were installed while Ford resolved production difficulties that...

I think that the clutch disengages adequately because it doesn't creep forward.when warm.

On my way to a car show and stopped by the pit to show some of the guys my car. avatar photo.jpg

I drill and tap the outlets. I have both mechanical and electrical units on mine. Don

Looking at this photograph, you can see how the bracket on a 24 body is attached to the wood. At the point where the instrument panel and cowl and bracket meet, is where the rivet is located.

Yes, twist to lock the rectangular slots or notches against the flat flange of the headlamp bucket. The circular spring fingers provide tension to the reflector with its rope gasket to push against the rim and lens to prevent rattling or lost.

The reflector if left in the exit/entrance position will impede the rim rivets tabs from locking to the...

I posted on another of Ignatio's threads that a better process for treating rims with moving parts/clips is electro plated zinc. It is likely to be the original process used. Something in the electro plating process sees the interface between parts acting as a resistance to that plating, leaving the joint free of plating and still free to move....

Yes, it would be the air flap. Its between the choke butterfly and the throttle butterfly. In the original I have it is free floating, but in the rebuilt one I just received it is spring loaded at about 25-30 percent open. Should i go ahead and try it or call them and see if they have an explanation why they rebuilt it this way?

Thanks Dan. Dave

I have about 3 and a half wheels now. A working rim spreader arrived in the mail just in time Friday to replace my broken one. That was very fortunate. I changed to MAPP gas to heat and free the remaining galvanized locks. The first wheel was not straightened and is slightly kinked. The second one was the worst of the bunch. I straightened it as...

In our RHD cars, the standard shifter is left handed anyway but it is still not much help because the throttle lever is also on the left of the steering quadrant. Rather than make up a RH shifter with all its complications, I added a foot throttle. Dead easy on a RHD car, but a little more complicated on a LHD.

Allan from down under.

I have some NOS bearing that I plan to rebabbit. Thanks for the info. Dan

The Firewall had the slot in 13 & 14 however in 15 did not have cut out.

I just bought a 1914 Touring that was a neglected older restoration. The last few months have been spent working it up to be a tour car, there is still much left to do!

I recommend the Ruckstell & outside brakes even if you live in flatland. There are many times that I just drive in Ruckstell high rather than Ford high. Its perfect for quiet...

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You are correct Texas Parts have them, former Birdhaven however the freight plus swap of the old spool makes it very expensive from Australia, and they refused to seek me the components only.
I have managed to get all components, cone bearing timken and cup, the other bearing easy to get, I have made a spacer, used a 1inch standard lock...

I was there on my second run hauling for
The EFV-8 Foundation Museum in Auburn, IN.

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Josh Conrad came with Nate to haul also.
They borrowed a trailer from the Duesey Museum
in Auburn to bring back the 1938 Ford DeLuxe Sedan
I had dropped off earlier in the week.

I had picked that up last Saturday in...

John Warren’s idea is a great one! With my large feet I have to remove my size 13 shoes to drive my T’s. This is how I learnt
that the pedals get real hot and I need the rubber pads!!
Alan in Western Australia

The tool retracts the rim at the closure to assist in mounting the tire to the rim - after tire installation, re-setting the legs in a different configuration results in one jacking the rim closed again to secure the latch.

I see. these are for split rims. My car has non-demount-able rims on it. I just use a pair of very long tire irons.

I forgot where I read this but it stated that a moron lacks the exact traits needed to be able to tell he was a moron. Seems to explain a lot.

If you ream the spindle bushings they need to be In line so I make a tapered sleeve to fit the bushing hole and slip over the shank of the reamer to center the reamer. I ream .0015 thousands under the finished size and run a roller burnisher through to make the material to finished size and it makes the material denser to hold up longer. I have...

A part of that plank road is on display in the Automotive Museum at Balboa Park and San Diego.
Norm

Just to let you know that planning for the Michigan Jamboree is moving ahead smoothly. If you plan to attend don't wait too long to make your motel reservations. Our campground is large so we have space for anyone who prefers to go that route.

Ford historians might be interested to know that we have arranged for our tour to drive thru the Harbor...

You are most welcome !

Thanks that is what I am going to call it. I was looking at the same pictures. Thanks Dan

One of the many aftermarket timers to go with the many, many, many aftermarket spark plugs. :)

You are most welcome !

Please show us a photo of your battery carrier, that allows battery removable from the right side of car! Sounds like a lot of work to do something wrong!!!

I have used the hot oil method to put bearings and gears on shafts. (best done in well ventilated area or outside) Using a hot plate heat motor oil up with the gear or bearing submerged on something so it is not touching the bottom of the container you are using. You want the item to be facing the correct direction so when removed from hot oil it...

Don't go hog wild getting it tight. Snug enough that the rod does not turn on it own, but loose enough that you can still turn it without forcing it.

Copy..Thanks

Thanks Allan, I appreciate all you say.

One heck of a man who can step out of his car and twist his ankle on a woody! :o

I forgot to tuck it in my sock that day!

I've added lines to the table and replaced it within the post above (rather than having duplicate copies of different revisions floating around). I will continue to do so if/when additional information comes in. Thanks again for all the PMs, emails, and phone calls.

There is a wealth of information about common Model T electrical problems on the Ford Fix.com website.

I have a pair of NOS Van Briggles like the ones in the pic. Don't know whether they're front or rear. Took them to Chickasha and didn't get any takers. $200 + shipping.

2/3rds if the way there! 5 million more from 1924 -27
Alan in Western Australia

There were 8 coils total, 2 at each corner. A man named Jerry Linder (he was a chapter president for the HCCA) restored this car back in the 50s from a good original and toured in it extensively for years throughout California. He even did a couple early Pebble Beach tours. There were many historic tour badges mounted to the dash that I can post...

Dallas, so they go on the spindle body, and apply a little pressure, correct? I thought I had two from one side and trying to figure out how they mounted on a fender. Thanks a bunch!

I always had flawless, perfect, see yourself in the brass of my 15. I thought I had cracked the secret to good brass without white or green ‘corners’. For 10 years folks would comment on how good my brass actually stayed!

Then he went off to college....😂😊😂

Many street rodder owned Model T's have Model T's that think they were really born as Chevy's . Model T's that self identify as Chevy's require small block Chevy engines. Have a good April Fools Day.

Just a match-up for the record
and more photos

Adding to Rob’s comments on the Model N in the third photo, another indicator that this is an early Model N is the radiator itself. The honeycomb style indicates that it is a “Climax Cooler”. Also note the radiator cap. It is much larger in diameter than later Model N caps, and threads into the neck instead of on to it. This is what is commonly...

Thanks all!

I’ve tried all the phone dry out methods. No joy. I believe those pics are still in there. Just need to find the right phone guru to get at them.

Meanwhile, back to the original issue. The wood strip in question is about an inch wide, 1/8” thick and the length of the cowl. I think it is meant as a cushion or spacer. The cowl flange...

Hi allan, no the holes are ruff cast, and has a tapper. No sign that it had a spreader bar, but bumper would have acted like that. The adjustable bumper irons are spring loaded and have a solid square block on the end with two bolts to attach bumper. If they were more brass friendly, i would use them😀

Chris from down under under

It is correct that Made in Canada Model T engine blocks used casting dates until the end. The block in question is a Made in USA block - you will see the entire left side of the block in my Part 2 in a few days. Remember, Canadian block serial numbers start with a C .

While briefly on the subject of Canadian blocks, I also have an early 1922...

Are they for sale?
How much for a set of 1 each red, white, and green?
Thanks!

Tommy

The spring should be stout! The spring is what holds the taper valve tight to the taper body of the petcock or sediment bulb. To take mine apart, gently placed the petcock body between the bench vise jaws, and compress the washer on the face of the spring to get out the cotter. Install the reverse, works for me!

Unless your fingers are...

Good for you Erik - now you're really going to be busy !!!

T chassis w/ hydraulic brakes on the rear. Front radius rods look a little short to me, and the early spring perches on the 26 rear end make for an interesting rear spring drop. Not sure how $56K US asking price will work out for the seller but. . . . . .
Thanks for posting- pictures are always fun to look at!

Those samples are good for lots of things, I use one for a pot scraper.

I'm driving up from Lomita. Should take about 2 1/2 hours.

I suppose another way of explaining it is as long as the Bronze Fork inside the transmission isn’t loaded up trying to
to compress the clutch fingers but free to rattle about a bit. Identical to later clutches that need clearance on the thrust throw out Bearing to prevent it from constantly running against the fingers as it’s for intermittent...

Hi Dick,

The enclosed cars came from the factory with carpet. The open cars had rubber mats. That is why you don't find rubber mats offered by any of the vendors for the coupe or any of the sedans (Centerdoor, Tudor, and Fordor).

Although Ford sold the enclosed cars with carpet only, they DID offer a rubber mat for the coupe.

The January...

I think I answered my own question
These go on top of the frame cones and then into the stanchions

The hole must be centered between the side rails and also centered in the cross member from front to back of the cross member to make the spring fit properly. Another problem might exist. That would be the frame sag in the center or bent from square to parallelogram. So you need to measure diagonally from same point on right rear to left front and...

During my days as a K-9 handler at Clark Air Base in the 1980's, a group of civil engineers was bulldozing a site for a new building when they unearthed a Japanese cave. Being a bomb-dog handler, I was called out to help clear the cave.

We found a room with an intact/closed door and inside were many nifty items, among which were two rifles...

The old Ford plate glass was 3/16 . The new flat safety glass I had custom cut is listed as 1/4 , but double check by measuring the actual glass you have and the glass you purchase. For example, the precut windows listed in Mac's catalogue (NOT a recommendation by, or any association with me) are 1/4 safety glass. I think most of us take the old...

You don't go to nearly enough auctions if you had to go buy a cold chisel. Glad it worked. The drill press down pressure is the trick.

I should have said if you have the old seat out you can easily grind it to fit the tapered slots, chuck up the tool in your drill press, down pressure and a wrench and it will come right out.

I don't have time...

Thanks for the great old pic's. My history expert friend found this information on the Steuart Brothers (pic #21 down from top). From humble beginnings:

Walter: If those pins are worn away or missing you need to install new ones before assembling the unit. The 'Axle Handbook explains this. Without the pins holding the steel washers in place it's possible for the washers to ride on the axle shaft and wear a groove in the shaft. If this has already occured, I suggest replacing the axle out of safety...

I know nothing about Performance Tire Plus, but when I have bought Riversides they were not boxed, just wrapped in tape with a shipping label stuck on them. The extra dough was for shipping, not boxing .

Haggerman museum has several photos of monstrous sturgeon fish. My question is how old are they. I remember a story about a turtle hunter changing his ways after he found arrow heads and black powder rifle balls embedded in one of the turtles.

Celluloid windows were pretty good when new, but faded with sun, rain, scratched and got hazy.

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So you still see these Hastings frames and real glass at swaps even today, they were useful for the owner who wanted to look back!

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Jim, What is the right location for a cotter key?

The distance will vary depending on which carb Adj. rod and knob, there are 11 different rod lengths, for '25 to 26, 26-27 and 26 -27 with vaporizer carbs, these fit the different body styles , TT or chassis only.

Really not too important where the cotter hole is located, as long as the 4591...

The lower portion of this thread has quite a bit of discussion about Beaudette Bodies.

I finished installing the starter solenoid in the T today. It only took 90 minutes start to finish. 😲 what a difference..... nothing gets hot and it cranks much faster. It also starts faster, I think that old style starter switch lost so much amperage across its contacts and turned it into heat instead of sending it to the starter.
I used a new...

I suspect that mine are spring steel. I will have to spark test it to confirm. The material is probably different according to supplier.
Art Mirtes

The last lock I had that would not turn with a key, I worked it free with some transmission fluid by first dipping the key and then inserting into the lock.

Hurry contact Freighter Jim (MTFCA Member) may be in the Carolina area now

Thanks 👋

I am doing back to back round trips for
The EFV-8 Foundation Museum
this week from Charlotte, NC
to Auburn, Indiana.

Then I pick up a restored 1969 Dodge Charger
near Charlotte, NC and take it to
Northern California.

FJ

Fixed. I inserted the shaft into the hub, tapped the cam into onto the shaft, checked the fit into the bushing, then welded it. Just for piece of mind, I removed the other wheel and secured the cam onto that shaft too (welded). Just trying to stop a disaster.

They really dont loosen on their own if properly torqued. Some folks replace with modern hardware & just torque. Maybe someone left them loose instead of proper shim & fitting. I have seen a situation where assembler FORGOT to tighten. Made for some frightening noises on start up.

I believe it is the F11 tractor muffler that costs less than $30, and it works fine. Many speedsters do not use a muffler, just a straight pipe.

Thanks. That's the info I needed. Looking at the windshield, the areas where the rubber would start to slide in have been filled with paint. I'll clean that out and see how it goes.

Thanks - Jim

Dean posted these Facebook photos and this detail of one version of the camper:

32 inch tail gate folds down for sleeping.
That gives me 6’4’’ with the spare gas tank &storage.
Without the second gas tank there would be 7’4’’

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Hey there Rob! No worries here. Just in my first half second glance my eye caught the other car and thought That isn't a Ford? I knew you wouldn't make such a mistake (me on the other hand?????). So another half second later I realized the car you were referring to was half hidden.

The research you do for these cars is wonderful! I am sure it is...

Dan T, a RHD steering bracket on a Generator equipped car is way different to the usual LHD unit. There is no room for a throttle shaft going all the way to the Bracket. It is terminated well short of that.
On the underside, the distance between the bracket and pitman arm does vary a little, but nowhere near as mush as Johnny shows on his 24....

Dave at Chaffins Garage has them, be a about 35 days or so. Ordered on Friday and he has the cores at the machine shop now. Send in your core and he provides a nice modern pinion bearing, have used his!

George, I simply have to ask: since straight, pure, 100% coolant is an absolute terrible conductor of heat and was never intended to be used as a coolant by itself, why on earth would you do it? I mean, there is a reason you're using it. Perhaps I missed it, but I did not see where anyone advised a 100% ethylene glycol coolant in the responses,...

Going to San Diego area

I came across the WW flywheel bolt tool early on in my Model T wrenching career. I didn't understand why all the flywheel bolts I encountered had the corners rounded off until years later when I learned about Ford's wrench. It all became instantly clear.

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Lyndon, thank you! With about 2.5% of Model K surviving we are fortunate to know of several K from the factory to now. Unfortunately, this is not one of them. Regardless, thank you for bringing back the car, and more importantly, the people who possessed them. At the end of the day, it’s the people who matter....

You hit upon a real gripe of mine with the brick detail comments. There
was a time in America where it was stylish to care. Over the past 100 years,
we have slowly moved to a point where all anyone cares about is convenience
and cheap. Give me vinyl siding, or give me death ! 😑

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Loose wire would not demagnatize. A bit of wire could ground the field coil somewhere & lessen output. Use a meter on mag post for a voltage reading. Digital meters typically wont work with the interference of t coils. Did you pull the inspection cover & look @ flywheel bolt safety wire?
Cant imagine your screen magnet walking It should stick...

Thanks for the info and the offer for the dies. :^)

Looking at the bigger picture, the new wire wheels are from Brazil, the Lucas tires are from Vietnam, and the tubes are from ??? Only the air in tires is from Canada.

It was an interesting quest but perhaps I won't be too concerned about the hub caps on this international assembly.

Thanks...

Great collection of photos! All I can say is; that motherinlaw roadster sure does not look to have a black top. :D

The last pic (middle among the three Tom posted) is an interesting photo. I thought for some time there may be a Model K in front of it, judging by the rear fender and wheel, and what looks like an NRS parked behind the Model K.

A few months ago, this photo was captured from a Piquette video. I've been unable to find the actual photo, so it's not...