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When you consider that: A they are a tool and maybe were stored better and saved after the car/truck was gone. B how many makes of cars used the split rims like Ford GM etc. The rim tool might have a better survival rate then the cars they were bought for. The one I have was made for larger split rims and will just work on the 21inch ones.

The rear mudguards have a reverse curve and it also has fabricated running boards.

Darin, the sweet spot can be approached from the lean side or the rich side. I like to wind the needle in, until the car runs poorly. Then note how many turns it takes in the opposite direction to again have the car run poorly . Then wind the needle down again 1/2 as much as you wound it out. That way you approach the sweet spot from the rich...

Donnie, I have a 4 valve still to be fitted and am curious to know how you secured the inlet valves in the block.Does the guy who made the solid copper head gaskets still do them as would like to purchase one.I have been following your post and find it most interesting

These are double bulb buckets. I don't know the year either. But have parts for them. The center bulb socket suggests that the wiring of the headlight bulbs would be in series (I haven't checked that out). Anyway here are some pictures of the sockets
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Thanks Wayne. Gil, to further put the costs into context, a dollar in 1907 was about the equivalent of about $25 today. That makes the average cost to own the Ford N would equal about $13,700 per year. Not bad, but still significant.

The times were changing.................

Take heart; this is a very common occurrence with first startups of newly rebuilt engines. Very frequently the bit of wire (which almost always comes from a bit of excess (!) safety wire or a broken cotter pin) ends up at the mag post, shorting it out. Less frequently, but more unluckily, it ends up inserted into one of the field coil windings and...

Yeah Robert, Robert, Wake Up Robert! You might want to try posting in the classifieds, Just Sayin'.

Hank

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I followed a USPS big box truck down a four lane highway at 60 mph. The rear roll up door was open and many packages were stacked at the rear. I followed him to our local post office as it was on my way home. I told him if he was missing something that I had followed him for 12 miles with his door open. He would have to start father back...

I had a flywheel mandrel machined for doing transmission assembly & setting the magnets.

I should also mention that if you haven’t looked on Amazon for parts, you really should. My kid’s Christmas present was new windshield stanchions for his Model A. The ones I found on a Amazon were identical to the ones at our favorite supplier and cost less.

And they’re still good at books. I bought two Ford books to read while I hide out.

Nice score Dennis!!!! That jack is awesome! You for sure won't need to worry about it leaking down! Dave

Thank you Steve and Susan for your replies.

Steve - its always great to see photos of #220 - a car I dreamed about as a kid.

Susan - thanks for taking the time to post the VF article. I do have that issue, and was wondering whether the info sheet The Story of # 394 had any info additional to what I already had on this car. It was offered to my...

I wanted storage under the seats so I used a piano hinge in front and repurposed some old spindle bushings and tappets to guide and stabilizes the seats when they are down. Worked out great. AFBD3F92-44C8-4CAA-BEF0-11D75970E23A.jpeg A53CD9E9-9C46-415F-9F67-0BBBC896700B.jpeg

Nice work!

Makes two of us. But chilly today with a stiff NE breeze off Lake Erie, but plenty nice in the Firsor. Sure glad I bought this car!

Sounds exactly right.

Thanks Martynn. We cam continue out projects.

Dave, the ECCT capacitor test is very sensitive to leakage so Capacitor test results can easily be skewed as a result. The most important detail is the Capacitor Value - should be 0.47uF but can vary (+/- 20%) so Capacitor Test results displaying the Value in the range of 0.33uF to 0.56uF is acceptable and does NOT warrant replacing the capacitor;...

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My shutters are open because I've been driving. As the car sits and cools a diaphragm in the radiator will move the linkage to close them.

Interesting that the question of coloured exhaust manifolds come up on occasion. May I suggest that a review of an training manual from WWII be reviewed. It may help with the manifold colours and the flames. (exhaust colour Allison V-1710)
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Thanks guys. Wayne, I agree, cars must have been a game changer. The world was changing rapidly, with phones, well run railroads, an infant road system and conveniences like electricity and gas available in many cities. However, it’s good to remember, more than half the population lived in rural areas, and automobiles were an expensive novelty.

I...

Thanks Steve
I want to paint myself a couple to hang in the shop

Missed timed/not enough advance or too retarded or running way to lean. How far do you run the spray needle when driving? Running way too lean is will do this too. Unburnt fuel helps cool valves and exhaust manifold as it pass out the engine.

You can always try it yourself.

Watch the you-tube video and you can see it's a doable project for the home shop.
Terry

I normally refuse to diss something....but here is something to think through. My first T was a Fordor and it came with some sort of equalizer installed. I was taught that fast stops went through the stick...regular stops through the pedal.

One day I came over a crest of a northern Illinois mountain ( read elevation maybe 25 ft) in high gear and...

A company called York made wooden bodies. I have a TT huckster that I think is a York.

Hi Allan, That was just a possibility as some of us like to wear shorts as much as possible..... :) Anyway we hope you're back to 100% soon.

Keith

Peter, I love the look of your header. I was wanting to run mine under the body in a somewhat original path. Your header would also work for me as it could run under the passenger side splash apron. I have functioning doors on my roadsters tub that I am using as part of my speedster project.

there is something there but not what i thought,thanks rich. charley

I expect in May lots of people will come out, and with inadequate testing and tracking nearly everywhere that will bring on a second wave, maybe worse than the first. By all accounts there won't be a vaccine before next spring, which means isolate or risk infection. I intend to isolate in a Model T (when I get one running). :)

I must admit,I got angry but I remembered that i didn't give but 30 bucks for this 42 inch plasma monitor screen I have because no one knew how to use it for a tv at the christain ministry store I bought it at. To replace it would cost me Way to much! So I can't get to mad at the computer! :shock:

Rare Duck! Hens teeth he says!

Email sent Ken.

Hank

Skyler, I put Star Tron in my gas for the winter. I do not know if it is the same, better, or not as good as Sta Bil. As long as you put something in there you should be good for the winter. Then I drive the car a bit so I know the gas mix is in the carb. Then I turn off the gas and drain the carb from the bottom. Your method should work just as...

Hi Dave

thanks

I've sent you two emails...it did come apart very easily.

I just sent my hubs and fellows to Callimers wheel Shop in PA,he did agreat job and was reasonable. MEL.

Really.... thanks. Good to know. Will certainly take care of it.

There are a number of ways to regulate the magneto output voltage to the head lights to maintain a fairly constant voltage / brightness. there was a article about using a standard model T spark coil. coil/core to make a magnetic magneto voltage regulator. or go electronic rectifier / regulator.
see magneto voltage control pg 86 Tinkerin tips....

My reply might be a little OT but we went to drive-in church last Sunday, in our Model A. Here's a pic thru the windshield of the preacher in the bed of a truck. He was wearing a mic. 20200419_130507.jpg

Our buddy, the late, great Murray Fahnestock, writes if a magneto can support a two-pound cast iron piston, it is properly magnetized. One pound is borderline. If Murray says two pounds is sufficient, would one notice an appreciable improvement in magneto performance if the magnets could support four pounds? Or is there a point of diminishing...

This is something I will be hunting for when I get to the rewiring of my delivery/hack. Just a quick search on Amazon.com turned up quite a few results.

I've never used any of these but it gives me hope that they are listed.

Jim

I think Model N frame and drive train.

Andre
Belgium

Well Hank, in light of the situation she has some electrifying ideas. Looking good.

any ideas, Bob

He must have a stay at home order. We have a safer at home order, so I have been able to take my Model T out and test it to make sure it is still working. It is also good exercise since I have to lift the hood to turn on the gas, pump up the tires, and move stuff out of the way so I can reverse out of the garage. Social distancing is also taking...

Thanks guys, And I did mean to say powder coating. That happens when the brain sees one thing and the fingers see something else. Either way, now to find someone here in central Indiana to do it.

Allan
Kevlar bands have certainly increased the sales of new low and reverse drums,( not to me as I am careful how I drive)! I like and use Kevlar on only the transmission brake drum.
I store my wine bottles in a semi inverted position in my wine cellar. Some of them are now 15 years old and are very “smooth” I find that generally “you pay for...

Allan check the Jay Skinner lead posted above your post. Jay Skinner Thanks guys for all of the feedback

Dale

Thanks for the pictures of your original pickup bed. What’s interesting is the small toolbox thats on the passenger side. Was it already on the box? I do have a tool box almost like yours that I think came off a 9n Ford tractor. Neat add on.
Also there is a manufactures no. on the hook latch for the box tailgate. All the iron looks fairly simple...

Sorry Mike. no plans for 22 coupe. I have a 21 coupe but only had to replace part of the top wood.

Mark: Remove the gear and check gear bore and shaft fit, if that's loose, a new pin isn't the cure. Also check the shaft and gear holes with a new pin. If the shaft and gear bore fit is acceptable, but the pin is not tight in both gear and shaft, you need to ream out the holes and install an oversize pin. That gear needs to be solid on the...

Way to go! The award is well deserved.... I took this pix at last year's reunion...a great guy and a beautiful Model T.
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While I hate to bring this link up as there is a little bickering in it, it does have some information. Maybe you could send her an e-mail and get an update. Barbara was online on April 10th, so she is still checking in.

I will check the frame.
Thank you.

One more. J.P.

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Call Bellmead radiator shop in Waco, Texas. Actually they are in Bellmead but it’s in Waco. They rebuilt the radiator for my 1919 Roadster a year ago with a new flat tube core and it works fine. They have been in business many years and have experience with older radiators and etc. A lot of shops don’t like to work on older stuff when it comes to...

Correct Mark. You are right in!

That’s a good idea about smoothing out the holes or pits. You can do the same thing in Babbitt rods too. Use to do that in IR Rand large air compressors at the air base where I worked.

Thanks Don,
All good points, I'll defiantly do that before I do the finial drill and install.
Thanks again for all your help.

A little common sense should do it! Some are 1 1/8 and some are 1 1/4 . Just put the bolt in and see if it works!!!

I used J&J Baby powder for lubricant avoid having lubricant everywhere, That work really well and I don't make any scratch on my beautiful restored rims and it smells good on my Garage after. I also use the same regular tools but I used a plastic part usually used for Motocycle to protect the rim for scratch... Work fantastic!

Dan,
I have no idea about the true condition of my engine since I traded another Model T for it a couple of years ago. When first got the car, I noticed a very slight little knock - in my estimation not enough to be concerned about, so I removed all the shims from the rod caps and installed dippers while I was there for insurance. It sounds...

I would go with .025 . You want to make that the gap of the highest keepers, then add shims to bring the lower ones up to within .002 or .003 of that. Actually I think the effect of a variation in keeper height of up to .005 would be negligible.

Thanks Dean, but I expect that the shipping cost would push the cost out of range.

Dan I am hoping some tours will be run before to long!! praying this mess die out soon and those infected a speedy recovery!

That Westinghouse starter motor is from the mid 20's, they had earlier magnetic pinion shift starting motors in the 'teens, one from 1913 is a much larger square housing, and separate magnetic shift box.

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1913 Brook's Handbook.

Don't know date of first starter, some were air, and the early electric...

A good buddy is running them on a '26 P/U - he says they 're great.

HAP,-- your statement about seeing things that may have been missed on first look, take a close look at the crank , looks like the crank in photo to the right looks shorter and has a bullbis looking grip, (love those big head lights,) i never see them, did they make it to the market ? , I wish i knew more about the photos found in that old shed,...

Charley I would consider selling them please make an offer. Please email me at billybobsspeedshop@gmail.com also thanks.

I don't think so. The problem appears to be strictly associated with EBAY motors searches. Regular EBAY searches are working like they always have been. The 'work around' search appears to be working well too.

I am certainly no expert when it comes to the improved model Ts, never owned one, and not very many parts for them. One significant change you will not see in a photograph of an assembled car is the rear cross-member of the frame. The first few months of production had the long-ear cross-member, but it was a simple U shape. Most of production had...

Ten thumbs up from me!

Tony, I know for certain that Ruckstell themselves made and sold 13/40 ring and pinions way back when. I had a set myself early on in this hobby, and have seen probably a dozen others. Many years ago, I was trading favors with a friend, helping him work on his T's rear end. He was installing a 3 to 1 gear set. He was tightening the ring gear bolts...

Mark

Ordinarily that is correct, in this specific application the plain flat washer provides a totally flat surface.

When those small lock washers are twisted by the screw into the Bendix cover slot, that slot is larger than the screw shaft, and have found lock washer to become canted. That makes one side of the lock washer off set in the slot,...

Terry, we found a nice pedestal table at a yard sale and this one was retired to my garage card table. I at least put some cardboard down and it lined up with the Workmate. :mrgreen:

Hi There Mark Osterman im from co cork Ireland . I'm living in the county that the ford family came from . I live in cork city the ford family home is about 40 mins drive from my home . you could say the ford family left Ireland to have a better life . if they didn't go ,,,, we would not be chatting . thanks for your time

I built mine using Gary Tillstrom's plans and it turned out very well. Jim

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Looks great & ready to roll.......

Don't assume every engine block was made by Ford. Aftermarket companies made them too.

I was very surprised this morning when I opened the website. GREAT work, looks good, thanks for all the work

Hello Darin:
Just to build on Scott's comment about poor repro fan performance. To evaluate this flow, simply open the palm of your hand facing the fan, next to the water inlet, while the engine is idling. If you do not feel an aggressive current, then increase air flow by bending the blades, maintaining equal and minimal distance from the...

Bring the whole transmission and we'll go from there. It probably isn't what you want to do, but it is looking like a teardown is in your future. It is better to tear it down and know what you have, instead of sitting on the side of the road, saying it looked good; I can't believe it broke. Give me a call or drop me a note and we'll get it figured...

Read Jerry's post keenly. On a modern car the brakes stop the wheels, and the car is STOPPED! On a model T the brakes work the transmission drum.Inertia, and the fact the wheels are NOT stopped, means the wheels are still allowing the car to go down the road. This force is soaked up by the axles, driveshaft, U joint, clear back to that slowing...

This is my candidate for “first Ford speedster.” Heyward Shannon, a young Princeton graduate, bought one of the first Model K Fords in 1906. This photo shows he and his wife and friends driving one of the first Model K. The “humpback” radiator give it away as one of the first dozen or so Model K sold in 1906. It’s reported only nine or ten Model K...

Thanks Susan, Chris and all those folks who volunteer! We look forward to when we can safely have large meetings again and especially T meetings! Many of us are in one or more of the higher risk categories and I still have lots more work I need to get done on the T.

The webinars sound interesting. The Experimental Aircraft Association puts...

Perfect, thanks!

Bob’s are the best. Dan

Think hose retention holes were in closed cars too. My 24 Coupe has 2 for each front seat cushion.