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I mentioned the Seagrave because it was talking about DRIVE LINE components (of which there were a lot of on those trucks), NOT motor oil. Their group did the research, and found Gargoyl C to be - wait for it - whatis being sold as 600W. (sound familiar?), 600W cylinder oil has an actual viscosity equivalent of 275. If Ruckstell says use Gargoyl...

Jess Blaker was quite a fixture in the antique automobile world around here! I didn't know him particularly well, but one couldn't really be involved in antique automobiles within two hundred miles of Turlock and not know Jess Blaker. He had a marvelous collection of a wide variety from very early to postwar cars. They ranged from some very nicely...

Thanks for the input guys. I compared it to a tornado brand, similar but not the same. Better casting that's for sure than the Tornado. Yeah the gears are a little odd compared to other distributors. The cap on this one looks almost identical to a '22 Chevy cap. Going to order a rotor for one of those as well and see if it works in this one.

Here are a few more filling stations

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The new modern small trans brake drums are made in the pattern of the late '25 which did have shoes, that were later same on the large 26-27 trans brake drums. Good idea for the new drums so they can be reused if the clutch discs wear the lugs.

These are J&M brand new.

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Are there issues with the repro upper springs? They seem too tall, not allowing the shell to sit down far enough.

My '13 touring has a one piece brass bushing. When did they stop that?

Larry

The Price List of Parts for Factory # T-932B bracket, shows Factory # T-944 bushing , 3 15/16 length listed for '09-'14, 1 per car.

After that set of 2 bushings listed as 944 + 5027.

After April 1921 the upper 5027 was dropped with a re-design of the T-932B...

Why?? Running boards were meant to be stepped on!

Lassen is a wonderful park. Have gone on a couple tours there and it is not to be missed.

Andy

I believe the tire pump would be more efficient with a check valve at the pump end of the hose. That way, you would not lose the small volume of compressed air in the hose with every stroke.

That’s a great find! Too bad the collar is missing.
A replacement could be made fairly easy.

I’ll bet these were forgotten over time for not knowing what they were made for. I don’t think I’ve seen one on the forum but probably missed it if it was.

Last March I asked if people thought it was worth attending the Celebration of Brass at the Gilmore museum. Last Friday my wife and I went to it on our way driving back from Mackinac Island to Kansas. I would definitely agree that it is worth attending, even if no special event is going on. It was probably the best car museum that I've ever been...

Here is another picture from the same view point, probably a little while sooner than the picture above:

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A little plumber's putty on the threads won't hurt anything.

Did I get it correct?
Yes, you did.

If you're not familiar with magneto headlights, here's a page for you:

A smaller steering wheel will make it harder to control.

Ed aka #4

That was the reason for putting the Dill wheel on my 14.
The small wheel was a bit to responsive/squirely for my taste.

My thoughts too, Rich. A little bleed past the cam seal is good for a roller timer I'm sure. I'm running a TW, which has forgiven the lack of a better seal, but it probably would be happier with a drier environment.

Couple of videos for the stick fire extinguishers two brands E element Fire Extinguisher (50 &100 second options) & Fire Strycker

My view would be that if I were going the stock oval frame route and faced what you are facing, I'd do it like it most probably was way back when.

Way-back-when ... glass panels in rabbets and curves...

- Panel goes in against the wood, with wood face down...watch your margins for not too much room.

----(not part of old way, but a...

Never would have guessed that Ford had their own wool mill!

Many service checks were suggested for Spring & Fall.

Original type timers require frequent oiling for lubrication and to prevent gumming.

It's best not to run coils until they are so badly out of adjustment or in need of points cleaned or other service that they cause misfires.

Coils that are getting out of adjustment, besides causing...

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And then there was:
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There is a solution to that, though.

And would that be one of Scott Conger's full flow needle and seat for the NH carburetor the likes of which is installed on my NH carb as it sits on the shelf in reserve??? :D

Horses had not completely faded out in the larger cities. The junk man came down the street with a horse and wagon and I used to see them pulling wagons in Los Angeles around 1939 and 1940 but did not see any buggies.
Norm

When I bought my runabout, the throttle and spark levers were flat from rubbing on the quadrant. I gently filed the quadrant's notches deeper (not much). Then I built up the rods with weld and ground them round. Problem is fixed for the next generations.

One of the Model T books talks about this. I don't remember if it is Bruce's or the earlier one, but there is a photo of a car with the brass painted black. Darryl

Found these for patent application no reference to the numbers assigned to he component

That's what I was doing after the problem started but I never had an issue before and I wanted to find the source of the problem and correct it. I rarely use the starter and usually crank start on battery but my back is not up to crank starting on mag so I wanted the problem resolved. Always started on battery before with the hand crank and ran...

I passed the info on to the person looking - not much more I can do!

Been there, got the T shirt! In 2003 the EAA Trimotor was at the Centennial then moved upstate next day to a provincial airport where they offered rides. By talking nicely to a ground crew member I got to ride the right hand seat in the cockpit and took the stick for half a circuit - cross-wind and downwind legs, the aileron response is sluggish...

The car should warm up quicker and have better driveability in cold weather or in cool, damp weather with the heat pipe in place. It's usually not needed in summer, but it can be useful in damp weather even in summer. If you live in dry desert country, you probably don't need one at all. Keep in mind that once the engine starts, the carburetor and...

I must wonder why scammers hit this forum and club members so much harder than other forums I post on. I am a member of the SmokStak,that is in reference to old machinery and seldom do I ever see bots or scammers.

I'm also on V8 Buick.com and we get scammers too. Sadly, this is the price of instant access. We all just have to be careful.

(1) It was a photo of the people in their department - the truck was just equipment , the important thing was pointing at Casey or Joe or Freddy and knowing who they and their family were, remembering the last picnic in 1926, etc... We did crew pictures every year like that - we'd either bein front of our building or yard sign or in front of our...

Priming choke wires sold by our vendors are the same length with the pull grip already made.

T-4588 Priming Rod, not T-4431 Carburetor Priming Rod (wire). The Priming Rod that was bought as a replacement from the vendors does not match any of the lengths listed in the Parts Price List for any of the Priming Rods, for any year/model, no matter...

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I don't know whether my grandfather and uncle camped in the city or not, but they drove from Los Angeles to the east coast and back with a tent. They camped where they arrived for the night. On the way home when they got to the California border they had to discard the bedding. I guess they thought they might bring bedbugs or something else the...

thank you, Bob

Thank you, Bob

Looks like it happened quite a while before the picture was taken.
Norm

Unfortunately, it is. Wayne went through an 'urban renewal' during the late '60s that gutted it's 'small town' feel... and soul.

That's why Michigan Ave is split east and westbound now.

I think the reason why Ford had so many different and odd sizes of pistons, is that you could hone your cylinder to a piston size instead of boring it. That would easier to do especially if you didn't have a boring machine. I did that with one motor I had. Also that would make sense for motors found with different sized pistons.

Received some tour pics from Rick L.

Rick’s 1904 10 hp Model A:
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Left to right, maybe a REO or Maxwell(?), 1906 Model F and Model A:
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Paul and Karen driving their 1906 F, taken from the rear tonneau of the Model A:
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Sure Brent

Did find Ford Factory # T-8120 for 1926-27 'Bolt, Rear Body Bracket , Short', 5/16 x 18 x 2 3/4 L

Would have been size I used too, as those frame rear side brackets have a big hole :)

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1917 model year top sockets are oval and the same as 1915 and 1916. On a touring, the first bow and second bow pivot pins face outward. The retainer pins are similar to a cotter key and are attached to leather straps that are screwed into the sockets.

Evidence:
- My unrestored May 1917 roadster - known history since new
- The unrestored June 1917...

Glad to hear it

this problem is so widespread it is hard to believe that the manufacturer of this part is unaware of the problem or unwilling to make it correctly. I am guessing around 5,000 of them are sitting in a bin somewhere, all made wrong on a commercial screw machine and no one wants to take the time to modify them all. It is a buyer...

I sure do understand the cost factor. I didn't realize that you didn't live in the USA. BTW: Paris is a beautiful city. Am I correct in my understanding that Paris is or was putting restrictions on pre-emission era cars?

I am in Paris Ontario, a small town just in-between Detroit and Buffalo. No pre-emission restrictions here, yet :| But T...

I learnt to stay humble... I made several mistakes with my first T 1922, the car was so wrong at the beginning and either me :lol:

I just went through that on a T that I've owned for over 60 years. I removed the front wheels to do this, because the wheel gave me too much leverage to get an accurate adjustment. The biggest problem is lining up the castle nut on the spindle bolt to get the cotter pin in. I've found trying a different castle nut can make adjustment easier.

I have been very interested in bolts forever. What I have done is to familiarize myself with the type of bolts Ford actually used, and gone from there.
When you have an area that requires a certain size of bolt, meaning the diameter, and tpi,and the length, then you have it. I've been collecting original bolts both used and NOS for years, and a...

Thanks Kerry,
I agree using a split pin cotter pin is a better way to secure the upper rod bolt and is less likely to vibrate apart and dance around inside the engine.
While on the subject of engine assembly, when I assemble connecting rods with Chevy dippers I bend the ends of the dippers up against the rod nuts to lock them in place. No Cotter...

Lamp bracket Installed. My rear panel is not quite the same a the original picture but the placement of the bracket is close to the same.
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J & M, MA; Joe Bell, OH; Mike Bender, OK; Ross Lilleker, TX.

He did say: in the New England area, or East of the Mississippi (River), so that kind of rules out Mike Bender in Oklahoma, or Ross Lilliker in College Station, or Daniel Bratcher of timeless T's in San Antonio.

gate opens at 7am for buyers 530 for venders.

Yes David I did hear that and ironically it was also their LIGHTEST load of vehicles..due to our T's not weighing much of course!
I did help Joe a little bit but when I mentioned back in one of our winter meetings to plan summer events I did suggest we try it again since it was since 2017 when just a few of us went. I was glad that Joe picked up...

Great idea John….

So basically you push apart with the screw leg just off to the solid side of the tab, then to pull together you flip it so the screw hook is directly across from the split, and the two legs are equal distance from the split?

I think the first day is going to be a longer distance than usual. I believe they're going to the Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg Museum in Indiana.

Disk brakes have basically no clearance between the pad and the rotor. The rubber seals on the pistons will retract the pads just enough so the wheel will spin freely with little to no drag. It is like this with cars and motorcycles as well. If the pads remain tight to the disk, the master is not releasing pressure and has issues. Be sure the...

Dan, thank you for attaching the link to the older post for One Piece Rare Brake Shoes Installation. Exactly what I was looking for!

I'll second the driving school experience. My wife and I took the class in 2016 and it was a great way to spend an afternoon.

The hardest part for me driving a T so infrequently is trying to 'forget' the muscle memory of driving a modern manual transmission car. I always want to jam the low pedal all the way down on a panic stop, but that puts it...

If you have a later manifold clamp in your stash, it will fit opposite way around, and you will still get full thread engagement. You can then replace it at your leisure.

I would DEFINITELY NOT run without the clamp. The rear port is subject to most heat, and if the manifold is not clamped tightly, you stand a good chance it will warp, making it...

Decking the block (cylinder head surface) is one thing. Milling and truing the manifold surface side of the block is another. I don't see a picture of your block deck surface with a straight edge on it, so I can't say that the block even needs to be decked. Maybe it does, but from the looks of the block from a side view, I looks like it might have...

Here’s a photo of a pan after it was cleaned up and getting straightened on a pan jig.

There are others on the forum showing different flowed on brazing jobs on pans. Would a Rolls Royce factory do it like this? Probably not. It’s a reminder of Ford saving time and money and as many T’s were being built it’s a wonder they did the job that they...

Thanks for the responses. Kerry, the 1915-16 parts lists are mystifying - nothing current but a very pretty 1913 two-screw Holley illustration in compensation.

Steve, would like to hear more about problems with brass bowls. I'd just assumed the change to stamped steel was just part of a larger shift to steel components.

The car's former owner...

I had actually set it up to do that and thought I had better ask for suggestions before I did it. I was afraid it may be too much side pressure on it.
Thanks Scott

We are talking about what you would see over in the lefthand column, where you would see if you have read it or not. This only seems to be in the classifieds. There are several different symbols used, below is just a sample.

I believe I explained where those icons come from just above your response. The circle with lines indicate if you read...

following the flivver channel you tube,(generator three part series)

Glad you found the videos helpful. Others here are giving you more nuanced advice, I see. Great! Here is the link if others are interested Ford Model T Generator System:

Will give it a try today!

I've run a pump and alternator on a pre-generator car before. Ran it on one belt as well all on the driver side of the engine.

It's a gen-u-wine TouraCoupSter Deliverywagon from nineteen twentyishmacallit, just like they rolled off the line into the furnace. I was trying to figure out the use of the front top bow as a back top bow... They could take a bow for that. And the semisolid front windshiled.

It's better than nothing, however theres about 102% of possible...

Our forum is becoming a hot spot for bots...
Daisy, Robert, etc.

Thanks Scott. I will get this taken care of tomorrow. Need this rattle to go away so I can hear all the others :-)

With the coil on the bench.
I test fields coils for magnetic strength as described with a piece of iron. If magnatec pull stops before the last coil it indicated a short to ground.
Next step is to test the continuity with my armature tester. 120V leads. This usually shows the weak short to ground with a bit of sparking & smoke.
A small bit of...

Hi guys,

Yes. I put together the 'bolt chart' during that viral lock down using various sources and an original version done earlier.

I am more than happy to make corrections, please send me a PM with the corrections - AND/OR to fill in missing data.

(Thanks Dan - I look forward to the details :-) )

Kind regards
Adrian Whiteman

How many have you bought recently and how was the fit?

1911 is the accepted date for the first ELECRTIC starter as standard equipment on a auto - Caddilc. There were self starters, non electric before that time. Units used a lever by the driver, etc.

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Craig.

Cool! Where on earth do you find these things? Thanks for the fun

Rich, I think Kevin has the right formula. I looked it up a while back but cant' seem to find it now. Funny story, a friend called, he was a machinist at a company that made fabric blinds. They ran fabric 60 wide and couldn't get the fabric to track. They called in one of their engineers and he put together a system of optical scanners and a...

I have been working on my ‘24 Touring this past year and found the front axle bent which I straightened in a press. Also spindle bushings worn badly, so replaced them and reamed to fit new king pins. Also replaced bushings and pins in the tie rod ends and drag link. I found that a little play here and a little play there creates a lot of play at...

Based on comments received, I have ordered the short throttle and chock levers from Lang's. The catalog lists the NH long levers for 1919-25 and the short levers for 1926. I am curious. Why the difference?

Actually the long levers are 20-23 NH. Short levers 23-27 applications. 24 or 25-27 the short choke lever has a dog leg on the lower arm....

That drilled area at the bottom of the frame is the starting point for inserting the windshield rubber.

Wow! I never would have thought that. Thanks!!!

would like to buy tire machine
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