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Some of the best original rear end internal parts I ever had came out of some of the worst looking rusty messes of a rear end I ever saw!

On the other side of the question. Some years ago, I ran into a Jumbo Giant transmission at a swap meet for sale really cheap. So, figuring just a few parts would be worth the price, I grabbed it. It had...

I have not tried this, but I read somewhere that someone stuffed a deflated innertube into their gas tank, then pumped up the tube. Apparently the pumped up tube displaced enough fuel in the tank to raise the level enough to allow the car to make it up the hill in forward. The tube would have to sit down in the fuel for this to work.

Kind of like...

It was frequently paired with the clip of the two locomotives running head on into each other :)

the racing starts at the 25 minute mark

Thanks everyone. I have seen the other brands Ford used with Ford on the trim cap, so was thinking E&J did as well for those years. I was helping someone and for my own information with a question on Facebook.

You are sure to have a very interesting experience!
Vampire Survivors

Thanks R2D2...

Whatever fit achieved, it should be a sliding fit to allow the length of the exhaust pipe to expand and contract in length with heat cycles. If it is firm in the rigid cast iron end of the muffler, expansion will load up the manifold end, something to be avoided.
On the later mufflers there was only one mounting bolt, right at the rear. The...

The New Zealander who does all my wheels has a big old lathe that takes a whole wheel. When he s finished building the wheel with the double taper spokes like Canadian wheels, he puts the wheel on the lathe, trues the faces up and trues up the hub hole bore. The really neat part of the set-up is the use of T model transmission drums in the...

Looking forward to seeing the Jamboree gang again this year. Not sure how many we have attended, but always have the best time. For anyone who has never attended an Ohio Jamboree, please take the opportunity to do so this year. And what a great value at $50! You won’t be disappointed, no matter what other uninformed folks might suggest!

Same...

He said there are some rear axles in there. You never know if you will find a couple of good bearings inside and the rest is junk. That is how I got all my extra rear bearings. If the caps are on the ends, you might get 4 good ones.

Thanks Mark, good to know. I was a little concerned when I saw the metal shavings.

Lots of possibilities here but one that would concern me the most is if these were heat treated, was the failure due to a crack that started in heat treating, or were these parts heat treated and then zinc plated after without a post plating bake to prevent hydrogen embrittlement. ? Multiple things to review with the manufacturer as a start.

Reviewing the printed literature of years past, indicate to have dry cell used for ignition, the 1.3 amp draw was for battery life.

Hi Dan,

I’m saying that was the repo as received, as measured pin at the time. I’d have to go and find the original inspection sheet. There were several places where finish was checked.

I really don’t have a clue what it should be, but at the same time and same breath, I’d also consider shoe shining to say a 4 finish is also a recipe for...

I believe Joe Bell is in Tiffin OH.

So much for quality standards from Vietnam. I have heard of similar issues with their other tires also. I guess it varies by batch.

Using the time saver will give you the proper clearance.
Ain't it sweet to spin the crank with one finger?

I agree timesaver would not be necessary with a good Babbitt job. I have yet to get a good Babbitt job. Timesaver fixes that.
Heck, the guy we used to use provided a motor too tight.(popular team near San Diego) I used to add a shim to get...

Thanks very much John, very appreciative ! And thank everyone for their comments also !

You are welcome.

Past product was junk. Didnt run on center. (fellow T feedback.)
I use only good original parts with minimal wear.

Cant speak to whats available today.
You might put this question/concern directly to Mr. Lang.

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Zip ties, nylon lock nuts, lock washers, Philips head screws, LED light bulbs.... and my little blue magnetic oil filter, all purist bait.

Been trying giveaway TT parts and black era parts for over a year sadly Sent most to scrap all big heavy ship
Nvbob

Thank you Scott for the advice! Yes, it certainly will get refurbished professionally and kept for a future T project.

Thank you!!

How early are you talking here? By the screwed in core plugs 1913 at the latest. I have a block of the same vintage in much better shape I would sell for much, much less than it would cost to repair this one. I can supply it as is or rebabbitted with a late crankshaft.

Found a 1/2-20 bolt. Great idea!

The valve had to be closing on its own to get a good compression reading. Unexpected.
Retainer pin failures are not that uncommon. Effecting/killing 2 cylinders is unusual.

Steve has made a good suggestion. Those who have bought Blockley tyres directly shipped from England have found the process easy to follow and made at prices, including shipping, which are reasonable. You will not be displeased with the quality of the Blockley tryes compared to others available presently.
It may be of benefit to check Canadian...

If I had a newly built engine, the last thing I would do is change something that allows it to run hotter.

Allan from down under.

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Well Mike you’re almost there so might as well turn it down all the way for a T car axle. That’s really the worst I’ve seen on a TT axle.

I 2nd that !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would like to see the bearings.

Jeff I'm glad you chimed in on this. Broken collars seem to be the most missunderstood part on a T starter drive. I see them welded, brazed & staked in attemts to stop this from happening. Shouldn't the bendix nut contact the boss of the larger diameter of the shaft before the collar collides with the ring gear? I find on most starter shafts this...

The replacement viton needle/seat units have an orifice of around .094. & a square body on the needle.
Original units hade a .125-.130 orifice & a triangular needle body.
Both the orifice & square body cause restricted fuel flow.
As it happens that restriction causes fuel starvation @ highest demand - hill climbing & flat out speeds.

Scott has...

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Gilles custard in Fond du lac

During initial set up finding null point gets close to the brush holder setting.( 3rd brush up)
After dropping the third brush & providing power, the armature rotates CW as looking straight on @ the gear.

I appriciate all you thoughts and input, but actually I asked a straight question and speedytinc gave me the answer. When all is done right it...

Very nice video with the history of the drivers and owners of the cars. The race at the end is fun to watch. Thanks for sharing this link.

I have the shields on so that the 2 ears fit between the body bracket and the frame bracket, with the bolt going through the brackets and shield Is this the right way to install them?

The shields are fitted as you described. The holes for mounting are elongated larger so you can shift the shield as needed. Sometimes a push to 'bend' the shield...

After seeing and helping put out the floor boards on a Peirce Arrow 1 time because of a hole in the muffler heating up wood, there is exhaust wrap on my T pickup exhaust and is already on the speedster and it is not even finished. I weren't going to take a chance. Just be sure to run it outside for awhile as the wrap stinks the first time it gets...

Thank you John I purchased 6mmx1mmx50mm high tensile bolts from our supplier on the farm. Threaded in perfectly with enough sticking out to peen over. 52E302A9-9D0C-46DC-BA81-A60E77714A87.jpeg because I can’t leave well enough alone I decided to indicate the slingers like one would do when setting magnets I started with a level slinger...

Sounds about right. My Ford drawing dated 8-7-19 gives the diameter at .502 to .504 . And a Ford drawing dated 4-28-22 has .500 to .504 .

The Ford spindle bushing drawing dated 10-1-26 has a call-out to line ream in place .5045 -.505 .

Any one have Dan Mari's contact data?

I lived in Clovis, NM from 2009 to 2014 and it was terrible then, I can only image how desolate it was in 1925.

Clovis is New York City compared to Ft. Sumner, New Mexico, just 57 miles down the highway from Clovis. Ft. Sumner is the armpit of New Mexico and is bad enough to give the country of Mexico, a bad name. There are no decent...

Could still be from a Fordor.

Google it and you will see that it is WAR SHIPS. Both Allied and Jap.

Robert: Here's an old post that came up in my search:
If you search MTFCA Forum 1926 coupe windshield you will find a lot of info from the forum. Including Don Booth and 1926 coupe in a forum search will bring up the excellent restorations Don has completed over the years. Best, jb

Bill, you are correct. Flaps and rim liners are two different beasts, but they do serve the same purpose, protecting the tube from irregularities in the rim, be it rust flakes, rim joins, spoke ends whatever.

However each has its own application. Those expensive flaps are meant to be used on split rims and lock ring type rims on heavy vehicles....

Makes sense the wear is on the bottom of the block and shell due to valve spring pressure. I like the idea of using shims .

The jb weld trick plus saran wrap worries me because the epoxy will enter the voids in the outer parts of the shell, eg where the ring surrounds the shell. How do you then remove the bearing shell without making a mess of...

Any idea? Guess not, so I send it to Hank’s cousin in Beijing. 😄

Hank's cousin has a name you know, Hoo-Screw-Yu and everything that cousin Hoo got from Hank last year is now available for sale at
Ho-chi-minh freight!

Headline for tomorrow's paper
Tow Due To Ford Fording A Ford

The engine doesn't work harder unless you make it do so. Overdrives save engines. In the mid-continent region, you would have many opportunities to exploit the advantages of an overdrive gear for fuel and oil economy, reduced engine wear, or increased road speeds without undue engine strain.

A stock or near stock Model T engine doesn't make...

Any progress/solution on your #3 & #4 cly. problems?

Dave, it’s probably gonna be 100+ Saturday. Saw some pictures from the MTFCI tour in Wisconsin, you guys have some nice countryside.

Andy

Richard, unless I have mis-read your posts, you are looking to match a color which appeals to you, based on a photograph which appeared on the cover of the club publication. If you have not seen the Boyer's pickup in real life I can almost guarantee it is not the color you think it is. You would be better paid to consult a catalog of paint chips,...

Wishing you the very best!
Don & Carol Conklin

Never mind doing the math with the 7.25:1 and 5.16:1 ratios, the tooth counts do come out 29T and 31T. I’m impressed that the actual artwork is correct!

Thanks les. My question is would I be better of with manual advance with this setup

LOL, when it gets out of the 90s, when will that be, October? :)

I used to live in Jupiter, FL in the 1980s/90s. I was into Mopars at the time and used to cruise my 1970 Dodge Charger up to Mrs. Murphy's donuts in Stuart every week. Later the weekly cruise night moved over to the Top Dog cafe. :)

I Install them dry in the car. Pour some oil down them once installed. Never had a problem.

Guys,

I have to say that, suprisingly to some perhaps, I'm with Scott on this. Having read some of Ron's papers it's abundantly clear to me that he doesn't need educating on the finer points of a diode + light bulb, and he even made that clear in his original post. All he wanted was one of these PCB's.

That said I also quite understand, and...

'23-'25 Cut-Off home made pickup trucks.

A '25 cut-off touring was my first T, and now have a '23 cut-off touring with original homemade bed..... my favorites!
Like the 'ole T re-purposed the best.

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Scott,
I cant help myself! I seem to gravitate to wrecks so far gone most would relegate them to the scrap pile. Its a personal challenge with me to bring these derelict hulks back to life or at least save them as organ donors. I am just the current caretaker. I hope that eventually, when I can’t tinker anymore, I find a young kid that shows...

the yu7? is courtesy of my cat who decided to walk across the keyboard

I bought foot powder spray. It didn't spray white, so I didn't use it. It did not contain talcum, so assume that is why it didn't spray white.

I used a flashlight and carefully inspected the area above the drain plug. I then used Kleenex to wipe the area and found nothing. I used a QTip to check the seam between the bottom of the pan and the...

Hey Dan do you have difficulty removing the front floorboard after the shield is screwed on? Thats the issue I see.

Didn't find any issue. But took care on install to know that the floorboard has to come out on occasion.
Of course all the floorboards come out for repair work, lift last the #1 board (Factory No. T-1098) is easy.

When I first...

I recently had four demountable wheels re-spoked by Stutzman. They are beautiful, I am 100% satisfied.

Someone ,Scott? read my post here about needing some car doors and sent me a email about a website and I was able to locate doors,now waiting to find out if they ship and the cost.

Your article was so inspiring - it really got me thinking about the topic in a new way. Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledgeSlope

I'll bet it did - it set AI back about 90 days in one fell swoop

That made me laugh out loud…

That is what I like to see! Repairs! People with the right tools and the brains to use to use them!

Thanks Bob…he actually remembered how to drive it! Although during the parade he text me a pic of the steering wheel…with the comment “sticks OK?” They were.

Perhaps a long shot, but I have seen this problem.

All plugs spark good at full retard. But one or more may quit when the timer is advanced. It may be possible that one of the timer connections could come too close to some other metal items when advanced that suddenly grounds it out. But usually only one plug will act up at a time this way at a...

My 'pologies Dan. I didn't make it clear that the one off the original '14 column is brass.

My opinion
When I went to the Welding technology school around 50 years ago it was learning the basic manipulative skills with Oxy-acetelyne, brazing, stick arc, mig and tig. All of those types of welding types use heat.
Joining sheet metal without warpage takes a while to learn.
Heat is the enemy of thin metal if it’s too much and depositing...

Consider running your T front wheels up on car ramps then drain the oil. You might get some sludge from the 3 or 4 dips of the pan bottom inspection cover. Then write ‘Chgd. Oil: date’ on a small piece of paper and scotch tape it to bottom of windshield/screen.

I think my 23 touring is in it

I mentioned the Seagrave because it was talking about DRIVE LINE components (of which there were a lot of on those trucks), NOT motor oil. Their group did the research, and found Gargoyl C to be - wait for it - whatis being sold as 600W. (sound familiar?), 600W cylinder oil has an actual viscosity equivalent of 275. If Ruckstell says use Gargoyl...

Jess Blaker was quite a fixture in the antique automobile world around here! I didn't know him particularly well, but one couldn't really be involved in antique automobiles within two hundred miles of Turlock and not know Jess Blaker. He had a marvelous collection of a wide variety from very early to postwar cars. They ranged from some very nicely...

Thanks for the input guys. I compared it to a tornado brand, similar but not the same. Better casting that's for sure than the Tornado. Yeah the gears are a little odd compared to other distributors. The cap on this one looks almost identical to a '22 Chevy cap. Going to order a rotor for one of those as well and see if it works in this one.

Here are a few more filling stations

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The new modern small trans brake drums are made in the pattern of the late '25 which did have shoes, that were later same on the large 26-27 trans brake drums. Good idea for the new drums so they can be reused if the clutch discs wear the lugs.

These are J&M brand new.

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Are there issues with the repro upper springs? They seem too tall, not allowing the shell to sit down far enough.

My '13 touring has a one piece brass bushing. When did they stop that?

Larry

The Price List of Parts for Factory # T-932B bracket, shows Factory # T-944 bushing , 3 15/16 length listed for '09-'14, 1 per car.

After that set of 2 bushings listed as 944 + 5027.

After April 1921 the upper 5027 was dropped with a re-design of the T-932B...

Why?? Running boards were meant to be stepped on!

Lassen is a wonderful park. Have gone on a couple tours there and it is not to be missed.

Andy

I believe the tire pump would be more efficient with a check valve at the pump end of the hose. That way, you would not lose the small volume of compressed air in the hose with every stroke.

That’s a great find! Too bad the collar is missing.
A replacement could be made fairly easy.

I’ll bet these were forgotten over time for not knowing what they were made for. I don’t think I’ve seen one on the forum but probably missed it if it was.

Last March I asked if people thought it was worth attending the Celebration of Brass at the Gilmore museum. Last Friday my wife and I went to it on our way driving back from Mackinac Island to Kansas. I would definitely agree that it is worth attending, even if no special event is going on. It was probably the best car museum that I've ever been...

Here is another picture from the same view point, probably a little while sooner than the picture above:

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A little plumber's putty on the threads won't hurt anything.

Did I get it correct?
Yes, you did.

If you're not familiar with magneto headlights, here's a page for you:

A smaller steering wheel will make it harder to control.

Ed aka #4

That was the reason for putting the Dill wheel on my 14.
The small wheel was a bit to responsive/squirely for my taste.