What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

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What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by rainer » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:54 am

Hello.

I start looking for "authentic" clothing for men and women.

I was googling, but most all pictures show primarily female clothing from fashion magazines.

Can I find pictures in this forum, or can you send me links? It would help me a lot.

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Post by MichaelPawelek » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:03 am

Google WWI Men’s Fashions and then go to the pictures. Also try Post WW1 Fashions.


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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by John kuehn » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:21 am

Look in the Montgomery Wards, Sears, and other catalogs in that era. You might them on the net doing a search.


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Post by Been Here Before » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:24 am

My advice would be to look at the Sears or Montgomery ward catalogues for clothing ideas. It was the every man's department store. Another source would be period department store advertisements in local newspapers of the period.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:45 am

I agree on catalogues like Sears and Montgomery Ward. The men's and women's styles George posted are from the mid-to-late twenties. You will need to find catalogues from a few years earlier. Women's styles changed tremendously in just as few years, and men's changed too, but not as much.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:02 am

But bib overalls haven't changed very much in over a century ! ;)
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Post by TXGOAT2 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:32 am

www.shorpy.com is a great resource.

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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by TWrenn » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:41 am

One thing, for the most part they dressed a LOT nicer than we do today! Ook at all the pics we see posted where people are all dressed up even for a simple picnic or fishing trip.

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Post by George Mills » Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:03 pm

I've spent years trying to settle on a mid-teens approach to period correct clothing. I look at the fashion prizes for original and reproduction that the other club holds at its annual, I try to look at pictures, I try to pay attention to what others at shows, etc.

The problem becomes...most of it isn't 'right' for a T! Can it be period correct? Most certainly but I have difficulty thinking of m'lady fashion or a high order Edwardian belted suit as being Model T correct! Maybe for an '09 lol, but for a black and brass car and newer? I just don't know or feel comfortable with it.

I think the light summer dress that has a hem down to the ankles for a gal 'works'. As my Dad's Uncle George would say one day as my Dad wolf whistled a woman on the sidewalk while driving by (proper in the 50's) my Uncle George replied...look at them ankles! To which my Dad quipped back, 'Ankles, there's a whole lot more to notice!). To which Uncle George sighed and justified his statement...In my day all you ever got to see WAS ankles! And, that was that but that comment has always been in my brain since I was still in single digit years!

My guess on the male side is most of the men had 'Sunday come to meeting' ' clothes that were not at all that fancy...usually hand me downs from some Uncle who was in commerce, but never worn other than 'go to meeting'. Separate celluloid collar on a nice cotton shirt? Check. Pants that may or may not have been knickers. Check. Braces? No doubt. Straw hat or a simple fedora or bowler? Check, probably never a Stetson. Shoes? My grandfather was born in 1881, he was a coal miner, and his dress up shoes were always ankle high lace ups, even in long pants. (Henry always tried to wear a bowler as a fashion statement...it visually meant that he was not at the top of the food chain and could relate to average folk)

Thats just one guys view...picka theme that you want, it seems to always be OK in Model T circles...good luck

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Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:28 pm

Social class is a consideration. A blacksmith or a mechanic would dress much differently than a banker or a company president, and that goes for work or leisure, not just "dress-up" occasions.
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Post by Been Here Before » Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:31 pm

Period clothing can be an older out of style garb, but never a later period - unless you are a time traveler, and misplaced you stop in time.

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2. Always were a tie. The wider the better......
3. Being bare foot is acceptable.
4. Bathing optional...Saturday baths preferred.
5. Smoking..rolled cigarettes OK. Pipes acceptable. Reed stem clay bowel, corn cob, traditional wood bowel.


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Post by Norman Kling » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:03 pm

The catalog is a good idea, because from pictures it is hard to find the everyday clothes. The reason is because with film cameras, people didn't take a lot of pictures, and the ones they did take were of special occasions where people dress up.
Having sad that, I have found some pictures of my uncles on a hike, at least 5 miles from the nearest road at that time, approximately 1918. They were wearing ties! And one of my grandfather lifting a large stone while building a stone wall, wearing a tie! I think the everyday clothes were the same as the Sunday clothes, only used more often. They also did not take a bath every day, so would wear the every day clothes and then take a bath Saturday night and wear Sunday clothes to church.
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Post by Art M » Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:21 pm

I looked at family pictures. My uncle born in 1894, was married in 1918. He was a till wearing his ankle high polished leather wedding shoes in the late 1970s. So family pictures aren't always a good indication of current styles. Wedding pictures tend to reflect period styles.
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Post by Wayne Sheldon » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:24 pm

Catalogs are a great place to look. Unlike photos, they tend to show the then current trends. For men OR women, details are shown better. How curvy, how straight. pleats, folds, pockets where and straight or angled. However, era photographs also show people in daily life, although a tendency to be a bit more dressed up than every day work type.
Women's styles tended to change a lot over few years in those days. Bustles in, out, then in again, Then out again. Colors dark, then light, then dark again. Plain, then heavily striped, or flowery, then plain again, and then back around again. Hats small, huge, partial brim, no brim, huge brim.
Men's styles did change, just not nearly as drastically. A suit Abe Lincoln may have worn in 1860 might not be all that different than one a person could buy in 1960. They did change some, became tighter fitting, a bit looser, lapels narrow, then wide, then narrow again. Trouser pleats came and went a dozen times. And most of those variations, people wore old suits for years, and many people preferred older styles, so that the old styles were often still available regardless of what the then current 'style' was.
The old joke was that if one had an old suit? Just hang it in the closet for a few years and it would be back in style again.

Off and on, there were various styles that became somewhat era specific. Things like knickers or riding breaches for men or women, knicker sport suits, form-fitting suits for men. Zoot suits and Nehru jackets are others for later eras.

One of the best ways to see how people looked in those days is era photographs. The black and white photos don't give much indication of colors. That is where old catalog pictures help. But even black and white photos give a good indication of brightness and general styles.
Good photos of people with their cars, in their cars, give a good look at everyday life.

One very good place to start looking at era photos is right here, in our forum's Gallery,

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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by Norman Kling » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:12 pm

Even as late as the 1940's, many men wore Khaki work clothes when they worked at the furniture factory, but they had a locker, and wore a suit to and from work. Interestingly, when we went to visit my aunt and uncle, my dad wore a suit, but my uncle wore "sport clothes". He worked in an office. He wore a suit at work, but actually had casual clothes to wear at home, however my dad either wore an old suit or khaki clothes when working in the factory, but changed to a suit to come home. None of us had "casual" clothes. I wore my "better" clothes to school, and changed to old clothes at home. They were the same clothes which had either been outgrown, or were patched.
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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by Les Schubert » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:01 pm

Check out what Tom Branson wears on Downton Abbey!

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Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:41 pm

Along with what I mentioned earlier about social class, I submit as evidence the Dick & Jane readers we had when I was in the primary grades in the forties. It struck me as supremely weird that Father went on a picnic wearing a suit, and that he wore a sweater and tie when painting the screens. The only time I ever saw my Dad wear a suit (Desmond's, 1941) was when he was dragged to church.

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My uncle Lester Parker and his stepson Herman Roach are taking turns being the mule, about 1919. Note Lester's tie.

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Lester and Herman with their crop. The first car on the farm was this Chevrolet (1916, I believe) bought used in 1919. Lester is dressed more typically for a farmer/blacksmith/welder.
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Post by BuddyTheRoadster » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:06 am

As you're posting from Vienna, do you want Austrian or American fashion? Also, are you looking at working class, middle class, or wealthy fashion? In America, poor people had whatever clothing they could get and afford, middle class people had usually about three sets of clothes, and the wealthy dressed like Downton Abbey and changed outfits at least twice a day.

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Post by rainer » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:37 am

Thank you so much. Now I know what to do and choose.
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Post by Loftfield » Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:16 am

We like to "dress" for parades. shows, tours, etc, often bringing weird looks from the people whose only interest is the mechanics and bodywork of their cars. "Dressing" just adds that extra little bit of authenticity. But what is authentic? The first mistake most make is looking at Downton Abbey and trying to dress like the elite, not what the owner of a Model T would wear, or could afford. Then, it is necessary to decide if your character is going to church on Sunday, the feed store on Saturday, or plowing the fields during the week.

Reproduction clothing can be had from Historical Emporium, who will help you with years, styles, etc, and from Recollections. Period clothing can be found on eBay, Etsy, and a few others such places, as well as in period clothing stores in larger cities.

We have both reproduction and period outfits for our brass-era vehicles, always a bit worried about getting grease on period items.

Of course, in the end I always tell people that for men driving a Model T the only clothing needed is a a pair of bib overalls; shoes, socks, shirt, and underwear are not required.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:44 am

From family album '22-'25:
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Post by NY John T » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:36 am

Many people Made their own clothes. My mom was one. On our dining room table she pinned tissue patterns on to cloth; then carefully cut out the pieces and sewed them in to a dress with a Singer sewing machine. I'm sure many of you have such recollections. They lived through the Depression. What a difficult time!


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Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:58 am

Rich Eagle wrote:
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From family album '22-'25:
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Nice Buick Rich! 1924 Master 6?

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Post by Susanne » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:20 am

I don't think it's shy as much as they were facing directly into the sun. Look at the guys glasses!


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Post by John kuehn » Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:28 am

I’ll bet the suits in that time period were hot!
After all the men usually wore long underwear most of the time!


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Post by tdump » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:15 pm

My observation would be the folks driving model T's would be wearing bib overalls and subtle clothes compared to the bankers driving Peirce Arrows.
The catalogs tend to show more detail in the fancier clothes than the bibs
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Post by ModelT46 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:31 pm

People always dressed up when on an "outing". My father, who was born in 1902, dressed up as an adult. Photos of him in the 1920s show him in "Sundays to go to meetings" when on picnics and with other family events. I will look for some photos. Also in the 1920s, men's suits usually had a belt in back of the coat. I have a suit (too small for me") from the 1920s with the boat with a belt. I have catalogs from the teens and 20's. I will put something together to post. I will locate the suit and photograph it.

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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:55 pm

Jerry, the Buick has a '23 plate on it but could be a new '24 Model.
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Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:23 pm

I see I neglected to post this photo of Mom and her sisters.
Dressed up in the teens.




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Post by Fozz71 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:57 pm

Watch some Laurel & Hardy shorts- they were working class and captured the average Joe pretty darned well.


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Post by TXGOAT2 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:10 pm

Cotton, linen, cow and goat hide, and maybe a little silk.


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Post by Norman Kling » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:13 pm

One item very popular with women was a fox hide with a clip on the mouth. It would be wrapped around the neck with the head and tail in front.
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Post by TRDxB2 » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:25 pm

rainer wrote:
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Hello.

I start looking for "authentic" clothing for men and women.

I was googling, but most all pictures show primarily female clothing from fashion magazines.

Can I find pictures in this forum, or can you send me links? It would help me a lot.

Thanks,

Rainer
I tried to Google to get photographs of people back than rather than catalogs looked for .... work clothes in the 1900's
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Post by Barteldes » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:33 pm

Yellowstone Spin off 1923... shows a lot of great wardrobes and cars. I dont know how accurate it is but the cars alone are worth a look (first few episodes)
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They wore clothes :shock: sorry i had to! :D
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Post by Bryant » Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:26 pm

1926 family reunion in the town I live in Myersville MD good group of people wearing clothes :lol: my great aunt and uncle are in the middle.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:27 pm

Here is a look at what some wore fishing in Yellowstone and some just dressed casually. Grampa on the right.
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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by ModelT46 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:38 pm

DRESSUP CLOTHING at all outings, except when play, or work called for special; clothing such on a farm of repair work.


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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by ModelT46 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:42 pm

Dress up clothing when on an outing, specially where there was a group of people. work or occupatioanl; wear was as needed.

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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by ModelTGal » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:49 pm

Les Schubert wrote:
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Check out what Tom Branson wears on Downton Abbey!
Or the clothes they wear on Peaky Blinders... 1920's attire I believe...

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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by Chris Barker » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:35 am

I thought that between '16 and '20, about half the people wore MAGA T shirts???


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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by hull 433 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:05 pm

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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by hull 433 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:08 pm

Summer time
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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by hull 433 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:12 pm

Some Fords
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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by hull 433 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:13 pm

In the field
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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by hull 433 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:14 pm

Ford salesmen.
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Re: What did people wear in USA between '16 and '20?

Post by YellowTRacer » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:56 pm

I think something needs to be clarified. City folks generally dressed differently than farmers or country folk. Traveling folks generally dressed different than folks "loafing" around the house.

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