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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:14 am

Thank you Dan H ! I always enjoy seeing the Stanley stuff you post.


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Post by Rich Bingham » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:07 pm

What a wonderful monster ! Pierce Arrow ?
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Post by Dan Haynes » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:54 pm

The radiator has a Pierce shape, but Pierce didn't have a badge on the top tank of their assembled radiators. And I'm sure their trucks used a cast iron tank that might have had fins in the tank.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:46 am

The double row of louvers should be a good clue. Is the thing that looks like a nozzle some sort of shock device for a radiator mount.
It looks like an internally finned brake mounted to the drive sprocket.
I don't recognize this one.
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Post by Kaiser » Fri May 07, 2021 7:53 am

About the mysterious truck on the top of this page ; I found something similar by coincidence that might be the clue ...



Its a Seagrave !
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Post by Kaiser » Fri May 07, 2021 11:06 am

Don't know where the photo went, probably got lost in one of the many dark corners of the world wide web,
Lets try again...

Ships ! my complicator wont save the picture and when it does it won't attach it to the post,
Sorry guys, i'll try again from another aparatus at another moment
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Post by Kaiser » Fri May 07, 2021 11:21 am

There's allways another way to skin the proverbial cat, i found the example here, have a look at the photo's, theres one with the exact same rear sprocket cum brake drum system as in the first photo on this page

https://www.prewarcar.com/326307-speedster
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri May 07, 2021 12:59 pm

That is a delightful vehicle. And yes, the brake drum looks very much the same. I don't remember seeing any like that before.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun May 09, 2021 8:15 pm

I think I know what kind of truck this one is :).
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Post by Duey_C » Tue May 11, 2021 1:29 am

Next few lines are a bit OT to this thread.
Always looking for info about executives Macfarlane & Gelbarth of Minneapolis Steel & Machinery plus more SPECIFIC details about the merger in 1929 between the Moline Plow Company, the Minneapolis Threshing Machine Company and Minneapolis Steel and Machinery Company into the Minneapolis Moline Power Implement Company. Tough going. Not done looking.
Photos in this post are considered public domain in this country apparently.
Tough to get better photos from the historical society and have been bugger$ for other researchers.
Sorry. Trucking.
The search led me to this. Unbeknownst to me before. In the 1880-1920 trade catalogs section.
Oct 1st, 1910. Wilcox Motor Trucks.
Marshall Street, Tenth to Eleventh Avenue Northeast Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Note by this time they were using the word aluminum instead of aluminium for the engine crankcase.
That alum word search/definition/time-line is expansive.
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Rest of the bunch.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Wed May 12, 2021 8:17 pm

Dodge, maybe?
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Post by Kaiser » Thu May 13, 2021 5:30 am

Rich, great photo, what a lovely express !
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Post by Scott Rosenthal » Sat May 15, 2021 1:37 pm

Some have seen this truck before....apologies if this is old news...Much like Jim Kraut's REO Model H shown on page#2, this is my 1912 Model H. Just finished the engine pan, which seems to be a common missing item on many early "Total Oil Loss" vehicles. Could be that it weights 65 lbs. and is such a chore to remove and install it. Many thanks to Vic Macek who helped out with fabrication photos and sketches
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sat May 15, 2021 4:32 pm

Scott, is that the canopy top from Jim?


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Post by Scott Rosenthal » Sat May 15, 2021 7:08 pm

Hi Herbie:
It is, at least most of it is. The front poles, slats, frame, and one of the bed mounts were remade.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Sat May 15, 2021 11:29 pm

I'm glad to see it being used.

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Post by Duey_C » Sun May 16, 2021 12:47 am

Beautiful truck Scott!
A couple pics from a friend up north, on another site. Hopefully not posted yet.
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Post by Burger in Spokane » Wed May 19, 2021 11:11 pm

Looks like a Ford to me. 1918-23.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri May 21, 2021 11:56 am

Now that is a fine looking delivery. I believe it is built on a Flanders 20 chassis. Maybe 1911 or so. The hood shape looked familiar and the hump for the rear spring clearance in the splash apron convinced me.
Here is a 1912 for comparison.
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This 1911 shows why the hump for the spring is needed.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Fri May 21, 2021 6:30 pm

That one is not parked in Flanders' field is it?

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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri May 21, 2021 6:51 pm

Well, I don't see any poppies blowing. I suppose Ann Flanders could tell us. :D
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue May 25, 2021 1:35 pm

There are so many different truck makers each with many different models. It's hard to sort them all out. Packard, GMC, Rapid and several others made ones with big tall radiators like that. However, I believe this one is an Alco. The front spring hanger and controls above it seem to match.
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http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/ ... lco_trucks
With the louvered side panel removed I see a Buda or very similar engine.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue May 25, 2021 6:32 pm

Don't believe everything you see. While looking a little farther I see this photo:
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https://www.car-revs-daily.com/2014/04/ ... nce-truck/
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https://shiawasseehistory.com/gmc.html
http://getyourthought.blogspot.com/2009 ... truck.html
Everything below and in front of the seat the seat looks the same as the Alco to me. (OK, different wheels) I get the "GMC from Rapid to ... Reliance" but don't see where Alco comes in.
No big deal. Just difficult to keep up.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Tue May 25, 2021 7:23 pm

Me again. After looking at other Alco trucks I can only conclude that the photo by vanderbuiltcupraces is not really an Alco.
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Post by perry kete » Tue May 25, 2021 8:42 pm

They may be different but they are all facing forward! :lol: :lol: :?
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Post by Rich Bingham » Fri May 28, 2021 7:12 pm

Herb! What a wonderful photo of the Packard truck. Almost sixteen thousand miles, inferred as one "tour". There's got to be a story here - any clues ??
(Four thousand miles on a set of tires doesn't sound too good, but I'd bet it was great mileage in that era !)
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Post by A Whiteman » Sun May 30, 2021 1:44 am

And a bit of British to colour the picture too :-)

This is a Leyland of 1948 owned by Shell Oil Company of New Zealand. Very prim and proper I would say:
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Post by A Whiteman » Sun May 30, 2021 1:55 am

And a slightly older Leyland pictured in 1920 being loaded with marble for the New Zealand Parliament buildings then under construction.

Of interest is the trailer in use ! Luckily they did not have to tow that very far, but it was through the city....... They must have had understanding policemen I would think.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Mon May 31, 2021 10:39 pm

This has turned into one if my favorite topics. Thanks to all who post these great pictures of the old trucks !
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Post by Dan Haynes » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:35 pm

I think that is a truckload of Brunswick phonographs.
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Post by Herb Iffrig » Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:40 am

Why do you say that?
Is it the sign on the door?


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Post by Dan Haynes » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:06 am

Well, Herb, it appears the sign on the truck bed looks more like a Brunswick sign in my imagination than it does in real life! I should have at least pulled out a record and looked at the label, but I thought there was a chance my memory was trustworthy. It double-crossed me.
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Post by TXGOAT2 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:40 am

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Post by Dan Haynes » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:54 pm

Truck fenders appear to have led hard, thankless lives.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:27 pm

That is very true Dan. This photo of my YPC Bus chassis only gives a hint of the abuse these fenders saw.
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The lumpy texture was not anything I could straighten out. I traded for a better pair that could be used as patterns. They had also welded plates to the frame to mount a snow plow blade. Getting ever ounce of service out of these things was paramount especially during the depression.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:38 pm

Wow !! That takes me back, Rich ! 55 years to be exact !
As a fellow rust and fragment collector back then, frankly,I thought you'd gone too far that time ! :lol: You certainly vindicated your choice in subsequent years. Your YP bus is a work of art, and I'll treasure the memory of a ride in it as long as I live !!
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Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:43 am

Not only was it an imposing project but expensive. $250 for the pair of trucks. It took 12 years to get into a place I could work on it and 18 years to complete the rebuild. For those who haven't seen the photos of it here is this thread;
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Post by Rich Eagle » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:31 pm

I've seen them do that before, putting the cowl lamps out front and the headlamps on the cowl. Whatever works I guess.
Cool picture Herb.
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Post by Rich Bingham » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:01 pm

Nice !! What make ? Wonder what's in the bags ?? I love the buggy type canopy top - no straps !!
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Post by Rich Bingham » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:28 pm

International ? Caption says one ton, load is nine wool sacks. Could be almost a two ton load.
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Post by Dan Haynes » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:08 pm

It is a REO.
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:53 pm

FWD built all sizes of trucks. That radiator shape was typical of most of them. This one is about that size.
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Rich Bingham » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:17 am

International ?
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:18 pm

Good eye Rich. I believe it's a bit like this one.
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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Rich Bingham » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:29 am

Thanks Rich. I'm learning some from the identifications on this forum, thanks largely to you ! The driver is bundled up, so it's cold weather. One form above the sideboard looks like a pumpkin, but I can't really tell. I find the loads being hauled in these old photos almost as interesting as the trucks themselves !

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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Herb Iffrig » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:36 am

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Re: This was trucking-Old Photos

Post by Rich Bingham » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:14 am

There's a Sandy Creek, New York, Pennsylvania and South Carolina. This is most likely New York, Oswego County. Apparently there was a significant lumber industry in the area. That appears to be a young lady driving the yoke of oxen.
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Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:37 pm

I agree with the "New York, Oswego County" theory. They had a 1825 to 1925 centennial and that is what I think I read. "The clearing of the forest furnished employment, and the manufacture of potash and the sawing of lumber became a source of income. As late as 1860 there were eleven saw mills and two shingle mills..." according to one account. They certainly were well equipped to haul lumber weren't they?
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