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Oh boy I guess. Old wooden floors and oil. Mmmm,
Reminds me of Milwaukee 1992. Thanksgiving weekend in a rope making factory...
Near coolest place ever. Machinery all around us. Machine shop on the third floor.
We got the steam engine and have made rope for years at the show.
We even held Mike A's ankles and hung him OUT, OVER the edge of the building so we could get the sign!
Like you say, fond memories of a non repeatable era. We ALL have stories that'd mesh similarly.
Reminds me of Milwaukee 1992. Thanksgiving weekend in a rope making factory...
Near coolest place ever. Machinery all around us. Machine shop on the third floor.
We got the steam engine and have made rope for years at the show.
We even held Mike A's ankles and hung him OUT, OVER the edge of the building so we could get the sign!
Like you say, fond memories of a non repeatable era. We ALL have stories that'd mesh similarly.
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I'm glad others are getting good responses from those companies. It's great when they take an interest and good PR.
Here are a couple more Baker Electrics.
Here are a couple more Baker Electrics.
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Found a few more of my brand and our brand.
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# 2 back is a u.s.a. also known as liberty. i had part of one one time.charley
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These two look quite similar.
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wheels the only thing the same . charley
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What are they Charley?
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the frst one looks to say k-w on the rad, there is a name on the step plate but cant read it, # 2 has a name on the front crossmember , need better pics. i do the best i can,ha,ha. charley
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First one is a Kenworth, 'K-W' on rad and 'Kenworth' on the step, second one seems to read 'Chicago' on the front crossmember, and on the front firewall looks like 'Quick Resilient Wheels' the Q is a guess, its a little hard to see could be a 'B' too..
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1939 Style
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Crate picture.
I wonder if that is the one in Milwaukee?
"Hansen Storage Company was the first licensed storage provider in Wisconsin. Literally ... issued License #1! We began by providing public warehouse space in Milwaukee and it has remained the foundation of our business." (1904)
I wonder if that is the one in Milwaukee?
"Hansen Storage Company was the first licensed storage provider in Wisconsin. Literally ... issued License #1! We began by providing public warehouse space in Milwaukee and it has remained the foundation of our business." (1904)
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now that's a dump truck!!!!!!!!!!!! charley
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republic. charley
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Don't you just love the spring thaw?
Spot the driving axles (chains attached):
Spot the driving axles (chains attached):
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It looks like they are through the worst of it. The one at right is a White.
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the other i think is a jeffery quad.charley
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Must be in WW1, the one in the rear is indeed a Jeffrey Quad, both in the infamous Flanders mud !
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The telephone line looks very NOT European. Did US forces build US-spec
coms lines over there during/after the war ?
coms lines over there during/after the war ?
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Kind of an odd scenario. Neither truck appears to be stuck, they aren't sunk down in the mud much, especially with chains on. The road next to them is fairly solid. The White has its hood open and a chain is hanging on the front. I wonder if it broke down and the Jeffrey Quad crew came to try to get it going again and couldn't and are getting ready tow it? Interesting photo. Dave
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I assure you they are not stuck. This letter was included with the info I got from White Motor Co. It illustrates what their trucks could do and I'm sure they were very capable of trudging through mud.
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i have a crane just like that but mine is on wheels to use in the shop. charley
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I bet the paint blistered on the rear fender of the tow truck.
Maybe not, tow truck looks pretty slow.
Maybe not, tow truck looks pretty slow.
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Charley have you got one of these?
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yes but mine is not as long as that. mine is std army mod b . charley
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What make is the sedan on the tow hook ???
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Burger,
Doggone it! Why did yo have to ask what make is the sedan on the hook? I probably spent 2 hours online scrolling through photos of old cars. You'd think it would be fairly easy to identify. The windshield and the radiator cover are very distinctive. Also, although blurry, when I enlarge the emblem it appears to be a light colored heart shape with an insignia. I couldn't find anything that I thought came close enough to even qualify as a "maybe".
Anybody else have any ideas what that car is?
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Doggone it! Why did yo have to ask what make is the sedan on the hook? I probably spent 2 hours online scrolling through photos of old cars. You'd think it would be fairly easy to identify. The windshield and the radiator cover are very distinctive. Also, although blurry, when I enlarge the emblem it appears to be a light colored heart shape with an insignia. I couldn't find anything that I thought came close enough to even qualify as a "maybe".
Anybody else have any ideas what that car is?
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Yeah, lovely. I have wracked (racked?) my brain over it already.
I can think of two automobile lines that used a similar shield-like shape for their radiator badge and advertising symbol. However, I do not think that car is either of them. The two cars are Maxwell, and Mercer. The radiator shell bears some similarity to a '15 to about '18 Maxwell. But nothing else there looks like Maxwell, and the similar Maxwell shell was rounded on the front. Not so flat like this one.
Really nothing about the car looks like Mercer. Well, maybe the wire wheels?
Being a fairly early four-door sedan, leaves us with many possibilities. It is likely about 1920, could be a couple years earlier or later. Late '10s sedans were rarely built by the primary body supplier for most automobile manufacturers. They were usually outsourced to specialty body companies that provided four-door sedans for many automobiles. Nearly identical bodies could be found on any of a dozen marques. They would be individually fitted to the differing chassis.
The body looks a lot like some Franklin sedans of the late '10s to about 1922. Franklin was well known for that style V windshield. I thought maybe someone liked their Franklin, but hated the funny look of the front. Maybe they put an after-market fake shell and hood on it. But I don't think the fenders are right for Franklin. Nor does the front axle look like the Franklin front axles I have seen. Even more against the Franklin possibility? Most Franklin four-door sedans I have seen from the '20s had four suicide doors. I even googled Franklin images and found a dozen or more sedans, all with suicide doors. This car clearly appears to have four doors. All opening at the back. Could there have been an exception? Maybe one of those "outsourced" bodies was different?
Guess I will have to Wrack the brain a little longer. Neat looking car!
I can think of two automobile lines that used a similar shield-like shape for their radiator badge and advertising symbol. However, I do not think that car is either of them. The two cars are Maxwell, and Mercer. The radiator shell bears some similarity to a '15 to about '18 Maxwell. But nothing else there looks like Maxwell, and the similar Maxwell shell was rounded on the front. Not so flat like this one.
Really nothing about the car looks like Mercer. Well, maybe the wire wheels?
Being a fairly early four-door sedan, leaves us with many possibilities. It is likely about 1920, could be a couple years earlier or later. Late '10s sedans were rarely built by the primary body supplier for most automobile manufacturers. They were usually outsourced to specialty body companies that provided four-door sedans for many automobiles. Nearly identical bodies could be found on any of a dozen marques. They would be individually fitted to the differing chassis.
The body looks a lot like some Franklin sedans of the late '10s to about 1922. Franklin was well known for that style V windshield. I thought maybe someone liked their Franklin, but hated the funny look of the front. Maybe they put an after-market fake shell and hood on it. But I don't think the fenders are right for Franklin. Nor does the front axle look like the Franklin front axles I have seen. Even more against the Franklin possibility? Most Franklin four-door sedans I have seen from the '20s had four suicide doors. I even googled Franklin images and found a dozen or more sedans, all with suicide doors. This car clearly appears to have four doors. All opening at the back. Could there have been an exception? Maybe one of those "outsourced" bodies was different?
Guess I will have to Wrack the brain a little longer. Neat looking car!
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How about Crow-Elkhart? 1921 Crow-Elkhart L65 Touring.
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Crow- Elkhart- 1918 engine
Crow- Elkhart- 1918 engine
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Rich, I do believe you've nailed it. Thanks!
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The Crow Elkhart was made about 25 miles from me.
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Looks spot on!
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"wracked" well used, well turned over or scoured
"racked" to cause great pain and torture
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Take your pick
"racked" to cause great pain and torture
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Great picture Herb. It is a Federal Six. I think about 1929. It's carrying a tractor equipped with a fireplow.
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Neat.
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The Caterpillar Fifteen it's haling was manufactured during 1928-1933f that helps.
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*...1933 if that helps.*
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Thanks Henry. If I may, here are some enlargements.
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Both in work cloths. That looks just like my grand dad. Build, hat and bibs. Good one Herb.
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Great picture !
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COOL!
Those headlights are certainly unusual. I'm guessing something has been added where the lens was. Since the carbide tank is still in place they may not be electric.
Nice striping on the frame.
Thanks Herb.
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Those headlights are certainly unusual. I'm guessing something has been added where the lens was. Since the carbide tank is still in place they may not be electric.
Nice striping on the frame.
Thanks Herb.
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The Morrow-Hutton Company traveling grocery was in Wallace, ID. This photo was take about 1920. The Model T headlight and windshield would support that time frame.
In 2004, the Mayor proclaimed the city of Wallace, Idaho to be the center of the universe (because it can’t be proven otherwise). This was pointed out on a TV program this morning.
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Levi and May Hutton are BIG names in Spokane history, and the Coeur d'Alene
mining scene. He was big in business and charity, She was a bold female figure
in social issues and made quite a name for herself, outside of Levi. I live just
a few blocks from the Hutton School, and there are other various landmarks
and memorials around, built to commemorate the Huttons' contributions to
early Spokane history.
mining scene. He was big in business and charity, She was a bold female figure
in social issues and made quite a name for herself, outside of Levi. I live just
a few blocks from the Hutton School, and there are other various landmarks
and memorials around, built to commemorate the Huttons' contributions to
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Rich, One current hypothesis based upon unification theories of the formation of the universe is that every point in the universe is the center of the universe.
So the Mayor of Wallace may be right?
So the Mayor of Wallace may be right?
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Im guessing the Mayor of Wallace was just trying to get in the Centre of Attention !
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Unusual hood.
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I thought the hood looked unusual too. It turns out a pennant is what I was seeing. It looked like a Buick to me. Perhaps 1914?
Interesting none the less.
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Interesting none the less.
Thanks Herb.
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I may be wrong again but those don't look like pianos they are moving.
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Fascinating photos!
Got stuck on the Wallis tractor 5 pics above and the mid-late 20's IH? fuel? Barnsdale truck too.
Wallis Cub Junior or K with the boiler plate frame/oil pan?
Amazing how many views these photos have gotten!
EDIT: Funky to watch some Wallis tractor start-ups. Ya put the handle on the belt pulley and "throw" the handle down.
A good fella from Kansas posted a starting vid on the tube and he had to look under the rear axle for that handle...
Got stuck on the Wallis tractor 5 pics above and the mid-late 20's IH? fuel? Barnsdale truck too.
Wallis Cub Junior or K with the boiler plate frame/oil pan?
Amazing how many views these photos have gotten!
EDIT: Funky to watch some Wallis tractor start-ups. Ya put the handle on the belt pulley and "throw" the handle down.
A good fella from Kansas posted a starting vid on the tube and he had to look under the rear axle for that handle...
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That's quite a truck and at work. I think it is a 1922 Autocar based on the wheel hubs.
If charlie were still with us he would either correct me or confirm it. I'm pretty sure though.
Thanks for finding these. They sure are great.
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If charlie were still with us he would either correct me or confirm it. I'm pretty sure though.
Thanks for finding these. They sure are great.
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Yep I'm missing Charley's input. He helped keep this thread going. Sometimes you don't know what you have until it is gone. Charley was a good member to this forum.
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Yes, I'd love some Ice Cream. You can almost read the "Packard" on the radiator. I'm guessing late teens. That headlight location was quite common for them.
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Yuengling brewery launched its ice cream subsidiary in 1920 to help the business survive Prohibition. They resurrected the ice cream production in 2014.
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Spot on, Rich. Both Packard and Pierce-Arrow's response to WW I mobilization was to produce heavy trucks for the expeditionary forces. After the Armistice a glut of military surplus trucks flooded the market, and Packard ceased building them altogether by 1924. There's a good chance the ice cream truck was a war surplus vehicle. The timing is right vis a vis passage of the Volsted Act (1919) as well.Rich Eagle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:38 am. . . You can almost read the "Packard" on the radiator. I'm guessing late teens . . .
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Spot on, Rich. Both Packard and Pierce-Arrow's response to WW I mobilization was to produce heavy trucks for the expeditionary forces. After the Armistice a glut of military surplus trucks flooded the market, and Packard ceased building them altogether by 1924. There's a good chance the ice cream truck was a war surplus vehicle. The timing is right vis a vis passage of the Volsted Act (1919) as well.Rich Eagle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:38 am. . . You can almost read the "Packard" on the radiator. I'm guessing late teens . . .
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From above:
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Those are the piano movers. The truck is used to get them to the job.
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============================Rich Eagle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:37 pmI may be wrong again but those don't look like pianos they are moving.
Great photo tho.
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Those are the piano movers. The truck is used to get them to the job.
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I would say the Harley is about a 1912 or 1913. The twins were belt drive previous to that. The enclosed chain drive truck looks familiar but I can think what is is yet. I'll do some looking.
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When I was a kid in San Jose, CA during the 1950's garbage trucks like this one were in use. The garbage men had large aluminum cans, maybe 50 or 60 gallon capacity, with a large shoulder hook. They'd come down the driveway to the back yard, put down the big can, empty our 2 regular size garbage cans into the large one, then squat down and lift the full big can with their shoulder. When they got back to the truck they'd climb up the steps and dump it. It was not easy work!
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A White truck probably in the early 40's. It would have made an impression on me.
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One seat? Guess nobody wants to ride with the garbage man anyway.
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I'm not so sure White's were used in San Jose, but the body set-up was pretty much identical and they were green, not red. If I remember correctly they were manned by a 3 man crew. 1 guy was the driver and the other 2 hauled the garbage as I described above. I never noticed if they rotated positions as they proceeded on their route, but I bet they did.
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Fortunately the Garford name appears on the body so we know the manufacturer. I see the photo identified as WA and called a 1912 one place and a 1926 the other. My guess would be more like '18 or '20.
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About that garbage truck, imagine running up those stairs all day with a full 50gal bucket on your back those were the good old days huh??
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I want to replicate this one but with an era camper on the back that I have.
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Now thats my kind of truck Herb!
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A side of these old trucks you don't often see!
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There is a simpler way to dispense the fuel without tipping the tank.
That is apparently a trailer as I don't see a motor or steering. From the snow on the ground it may have been due to icy streets. The air brakes didn't help. I like those clear photos.
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That is apparently a trailer as I don't see a motor or steering. From the snow on the ground it may have been due to icy streets. The air brakes didn't help. I like those clear photos.
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Another great photo Herb.
I often look at these trucks that were loaded with furniture and wonder if the people are just moving local or did they have to pack up and head out in search of work and a better life.
I often look at these trucks that were loaded with furniture and wonder if the people are just moving local or did they have to pack up and head out in search of work and a better life.
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I can remember trucks that looked like that. It was another great era long gone.
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Cool rig! It may be "Demonets Inc." District Of Columbia Corporation May 1, 1908.
Now Loeb's NY Deli, home of the "Wicked Waffle". (No connection or endorsement.) Of course the TT is a '20s. If not, fun photos.
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That is a pretty fancy delivery but why no rear mudguards ?
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I cannot sat why there are no rear mud guards. First I thought to say that the truck was too new and the photo was for a promotion but then I noticed that the front fender was bent which indicates the truck had been in service for a while.
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I would guess the one above is an IHC? Anyone know for sure?
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It certainly is an International Herb. The sidelights look like black and brass so I would guess a '13 or '14. Some wonderful additions have been added to the standard express wagon body and bed.
It's a nice slice of early marketing.
It's a nice slice of early marketing.
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How about this one?
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Love the old truck pictures.
"Quick Delivery" ... compared to walking!
"Quick Delivery" ... compared to walking!
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