Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
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Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
I purchased a 1923 open express in November or 2018. In December of 2019, David Currier installed a depot Hack body. The rear fenders are in the paint shop and I would like to get a spare tire and spare tire carrier along with other accessories in the next few weeks. Since I am new to Model T Ford, I was hoping to find the least expensive way to accomplish the finishing touches. any help or guidance would be appreciated. Is there a "used parts for sale" section on this site?
How can I be sure the parts are the correct fit?
How can I be sure the parts are the correct fit?
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Welcome aboard ! Now you went & done it !
Normally a hack or p/u would have a side mounted spare assuming the driver's door didn't open or some accessory (hard to come by) under the bed mounts like a modern p/u.
Normally a hack or p/u would have a side mounted spare assuming the driver's door didn't open or some accessory (hard to come by) under the bed mounts like a modern p/u.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
I can't help with the spare tire, but good call on the new body. It looks awesome.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
The driver's side has no door. I am looking for the tire that will mount on the driver side above the running board. I would purchase from a supplier like Langs but I'm not sure what part number(s) to order. Hoping there might be a used one in someone's old parts stock in an abandoned garage somewhere. If all else fails I can build a bracket, but if I don't have to reinvent the thing ... that would be better
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
You want a spare rim to match the other four, so if you need to change a flat you have a tire already mounted. Ford made a rear mounted spare carrier, but I don't know if it would fit with the custom body. If not, I would make one that attaches to the body. It could go on one of the sides or in back. If I had my regular computer here I'd show a picture of the stock 1923 spare carrier. It bolts onto the frame and sticks out behind a touring or roadster body. Lang's catalogue shows a few of the parts that go on the stock carrier, but not the carrier itself. If Don Lang doesn't have new ones, nobody does, and you'll need to find an original or make your own.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Thanks for reply. I hope someone out there might have something.
I have already experienced a flat tire and was unable to attend a car show as a result. I ordered the replacement tire tube and tools for changing the tire tube. Langs sent it and i was up and running the following week. I just want to be better prepared if I get another flat tire.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
I have a running board spare tire carrier for 30 x 3 1/2 if you’re interested. Looks like this one. Mosterman@eastman.org
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
I have a spare tire mounted on a rim in good serviceable condition that holds air. It has some chew marks on it from a squirrel or rat, this aged patina I will not charge extra for! LOL
Welcome aboard!
Email me if interested!
Hank
Welcome aboard!
Email me if interested!
Hank
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Here's what I have..,
Don't let me hog Mark's offer, but I do have this under mount for a 30 X 3 1/2 that mounts under the wood body. Email me if interested.
All the Best,
Hank
Don't let me hog Mark's offer, but I do have this under mount for a 30 X 3 1/2 that mounts under the wood body. Email me if interested.
All the Best,
Hank
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Hi Ed,
Welcome To MTFCA, nice woody you find! Hank is avery nice gentlemen, you could be confident with him. But I have to admit Mike is a nice guy either. So make a pic and you will win anyway.
Enjoy it.
Cheers,
Welcome To MTFCA, nice woody you find! Hank is avery nice gentlemen, you could be confident with him. But I have to admit Mike is a nice guy either. So make a pic and you will win anyway.
Enjoy it.
Cheers,
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Not to confuse you, but what you have are 4.40x21 inch demountables as you know. There are also 30x3-1/2 and 30 x 3. The OD are the same but it stops there.
On a Hack, one like Jack Daron use to make for Roadster pickups would work but I haven’t seen any ever up for resale.
Hacks are usually something cobbled together that just works. . This pick shows one I saw that uses 3 point tie up...just bent strap stock, a few holes, and some leather strap.
My Hack is much simpler...a piece of all thread with the same thread as a regular wheel nut, washers, and 6 nuts (double nutted to keep rattles at bay). This goes thru one of the reinforcements on the body at about 11 o clock on where the tire sits. The tire lug gets nutted here. The just 2 footman clips in the running board and a leather strap. Only a two point hook up, but surprisingly it doesn’t wiggle
On a Hack, one like Jack Daron use to make for Roadster pickups would work but I haven’t seen any ever up for resale.
Hacks are usually something cobbled together that just works. . This pick shows one I saw that uses 3 point tie up...just bent strap stock, a few holes, and some leather strap.
My Hack is much simpler...a piece of all thread with the same thread as a regular wheel nut, washers, and 6 nuts (double nutted to keep rattles at bay). This goes thru one of the reinforcements on the body at about 11 o clock on where the tire sits. The tire lug gets nutted here. The just 2 footman clips in the running board and a leather strap. Only a two point hook up, but surprisingly it doesn’t wiggle
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Best look again ,George - those sure appear to be 30 x 3.5 demountable - not 21" split rim.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Hey Steve,
Ah, I looked at the top photos again...I don’t see it, the sidewall proportion seems too high...I don’t see a split line on my cell screen...so guess I’ll just accept my “spotter” is wrong. . Sorry to all if I confused.
Ah, I looked at the top photos again...I don’t see it, the sidewall proportion seems too high...I don’t see a split line on my cell screen...so guess I’ll just accept my “spotter” is wrong. . Sorry to all if I confused.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Don't feel bad George, Seeing eye friends help us old fellas out a lot! LOL
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Thanks everyone for your information. You all have been very helpful
Looks like I have what I need now!
Looks like I have what I need now!
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Try the classifieds!
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
A word of caution on the rims: eventually they were all made interchangeable, but this was not always the case. I can't tell from the pictures whether your rims are Hayes, Kelsey, Firestone, or Ford, but you may need to get a spare rim of the same make to fit your wheels. Another factor to consider is that the wheels on your car may not necessarily be the right ones for 1923. Over the course of 90+ years many of these cars have have acquired the "wrong" wheels. I would determine what the other rims are, and find a spare rim to match. This is not as difficult as it may seem, especially if your other rims are Hayes. Those are most common, and not hard to find.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
This is my homemade spare tire carrier. The door does not open. The vertical piece carries the weight, the bottom "U" stabilizes the tire and wheel.
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Re: Spare tire needed 1923 Depot Hack
Bill Robinson
THANKS The picture of your Depot Hack is exactly what I want for the canvas fabricator. I am getting clear curtains made just like yours. To be "period correct" we will be using something called "Common Sence fasteners" but they come with Phillips screws. I will be buying slot head screws to replace all the Phillips screws he installs.
I like the spare tire holder. That is exactly where I will mount my spare tire.
Also, I want to thank Hank for the complete tire and carrier. A little paint and some tire black will make it perfect for my T
THANKS The picture of your Depot Hack is exactly what I want for the canvas fabricator. I am getting clear curtains made just like yours. To be "period correct" we will be using something called "Common Sence fasteners" but they come with Phillips screws. I will be buying slot head screws to replace all the Phillips screws he installs.
I like the spare tire holder. That is exactly where I will mount my spare tire.
Also, I want to thank Hank for the complete tire and carrier. A little paint and some tire black will make it perfect for my T
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