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headlights with additional bulb question

Post by jayteeaz » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:45 pm

I have a 24 roadster that has a set of headlights with a bulb on top of the reflector and a single wire running between them and up to the terminal block (disconnected). This is in addition to the high and low beam bulb.
I haven't been able to find any documentation about this setup.
Can someone tell me what this light is for and what to wire it to?

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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:25 pm

Dan Treace,Sept 08, 2017 said:
"Those are typical '19-'20 lamps on the first Fords with electric start. Mostly seen on sedans as they got electric first."
"The double bulb don't have adj. screw."
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/70 ... 1504883400
I hope this is what you are talking about.
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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by jayteeaz » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pm

Not quite Dan,
Maybe this picture will help
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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by Rich Eagle » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:12 pm

Isn't this what you have?
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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by dykker5502 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:12 am

In modern times these reflectors are rather atrractive as they allows you to make your headlight more compliant with current regulations.
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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by jayteeaz » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:35 am

You are right Rich.
To what do I connect the top bulb?
Low or high beam or does it matter?


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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by J1MGOLDEN » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:32 pm

Some Model As had that small bulb for a parking light.

The reflectors may be Model A reflectors.

I have never measured the model A lights to see if they are the same size.

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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by Rich Eagle » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:27 pm

I don't see any information. I would assume a separate wire was included in the wiring harness for these lights and a separate switch. I too have some of these lights and reflectors. Perhaps those cars had a light switch with a third position.
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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by RajoRacer » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:40 pm

The set of these lights I've seen a number of years ago had a rather complicated socket/wiring & keeper assembly.


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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by John S-M » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:58 pm

While it is true the model A has a SIMILAR set up as the T , however, they are not interchangeable......I know , because I tried this with a wonderful pair I bought from Dan Treace a couple years ago at Lurray swap meet. respectfully, John

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Re: headlights with additional bulb question

Post by david_dewey » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:35 pm

Model A reflectors are very different; for one thing, they clip into the headlight bucket and are not spring loaded like the T ones. These are fairly uncomon, not being used very long. The upper bulb is actually a parking lamp bulb, but could be used (I suppose) as a "Low beam" bulb.
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