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abcarswell
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New TT Owner

Post by abcarswell » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:47 pm

Finally took the plunge and bought this TT. Owner said it was a '23 but engine and other features (I'm still in sponge mode on details) make it appear to be a '24. Any observations are welcome. It runs and drives but has been sitting for several years so a good service is in order first off. Then prep, paint and likely a express body for the rear ala Railway Express.
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by Tom Hicks » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:53 pm

Nice truck!!!

I would work on getting it mechanically sound and enjoy driving it like it is. You then might want to do body work at a later date. Or you might prefer it like it is!

I think the bed now on it is considered highly desirable.
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abcarswell
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by abcarswell » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:57 pm

Totally agree that mechanical comes first. Given the flexibility of the flatbed, what ever I build will likely use that as a base. Thanks for the comments.


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Re: New TT Owner

Post by HPetrino » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:43 pm

I dunno what the problem is, but I don't see the photos. In their place is a red circle with a line through it and the words, "You are not authorised to view this mage". (And yes, the word "authorized" is misspelled with an s instead of a z in the notation under the red circle.)


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Re: New TT Owner

Post by HPetrino » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:44 pm

Hmmm. The photos come up when I double click on the red circle. Weird.

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Re: New TT Owner

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:48 pm

Double Hmmm. When I click on the red circles I get the log-in page.
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by A Whiteman » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:04 am

Welcome to the TT club :-)


(by the way, an "S" is perfectly correct spelling ;-0 )


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Re: New TT Owner

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:23 am

Nice truck!
That style C-cab was first offered in 1924, and since it has the short running boards, that is likely the correct year for it. They continued until '27, so later is possible. Engine number (if the engine is the original???) and several other minor details could be used to determine if it is later or not.


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Re: New TT Owner

Post by D Stroud » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:24 am

Allan, as Wayne said, nice truck! From what I can see in your pictures, the cab looks to be VERY nice and is correct for a '24. It looks like it has original floorboards and has the correct and hard to find upper windshield frame. I do think the chassis is a '23 or earlier because the rear cab and front bed mounts for a '24 aren't there. I'm not sure, and could very well be mistaken, but I think the long "boot scraper" running boards came along with the '24 C cab and high radiator. I'm sure others more knowledgeable than me will chime in here. Dave
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:44 am

Engine assembly date is Tuesday, September 23, 1924, fairly early in the 1924 model year.
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by KeithG » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:25 am

As Wayne said, the "C" cab body was introduced in January, 1924. Further, I undersand that the short running boards were used through the '25 model year, and the long boot scraper type in '26 & to the end of production.

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Re: New TT Owner

Post by Mark Gregush » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:46 am

Go with what ever the title or paperwork shows and leave it at that. Neat TT!
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by RajoRacer » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Interesting info - I have my Gramps' 1924 C-Cab Covered Express which he purchased new in Seattle in spring of '24 - it has the original engine dated to December of 1923 - what I find interesting is the side headers on our truck are quite narrow compared to many photos I've seen of other C-Cabs including the photos of the above TT - it also sports the short running boards. Also, according to the Ford Glass Specifications Booklet, 1924 TT rear oval window was a different size than the later C-Cabs.
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by JunkyJud » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:28 pm

This is an interesting C cab. If you look at the inside top edge of the cab sides (where the steel meets the wood) you will see 3 notches. The depth of each one gets smaller towards the rear of the cab. These notches were to accommodate the early “low roof”. The wooden roof that is currently on the truck is a “high roof” to allow for side curtain storage. It does appear to be an original roof. Either it was taken from another truck or it was a transitional model where the high roof was in production but there were left over earlier cab sides that need to be used up. I don’t know when the transition happened but it was sometime in 1924.
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:09 pm

I agree and disagree with Mark. Whether I would correct the wrong year or not depends on how it rates on the hassle scale in Texas. I've corrected wrong years on two vehicles here in Kansas with absolutely no trouble at all. In some other states the legislators are determined to make any such undertaking a bureaucratic gauntlet of Byzantine complexity, and others are somewhere in between. I would research the Texas rules and regulations, and proceed accordingly.
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Re: New TT Owner

Post by abcarswell » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:14 pm

Thanks for all the responses. I too noted that the frame mounts at the rear of the cab did not match up. Of course, on a 95 year old truck, its hard to tell what's original and what may be a 30-40 year old restoration. The truck is/was in West Texas which is kind to metal work with little rust occurring due to the dry climate so could explain the good shape for many of the components. My knowledge is expanding every day but I obviously have a ways to go to get to the level of even a novice Model T owner.

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