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OT - What is This Tool?

Post by CudaMan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:43 pm

I picked up a bucket of old tools cheap at a garage sale, and this tool was in the bucket, does anybody know what it is?

Originally, I thought it was some kind of nut splitter, but the end of the plunger has a triangular cross section, not a wedge like a nut splitter would have.

Thanks! :)
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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Ruxstel24 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:51 pm

Snap installer ??


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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Scottio » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:01 pm

Oh yeah. I have one of those too. . . . . .......... I have no idea what it’s for.


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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Jim Eubanks » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:04 pm

Its a saw set tool. Bends the teeth after sharpening.

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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by CudaMan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:09 pm

Thank you Jim, that makes perfect sense! The base of the anvil is cut at an angle that can be adjusted by turning the dial. The thread adjustable plunger allows the tool to be clamped on the saw blade, then you squeeze the handle to bend each tooth to the angle set by the anvil.

Very tedious but effective! Looks like it's a keeper. :)

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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Dennis_Brown » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:07 pm

About 20 years ago I bought out all of a gentleman's T parts at Murphy Oregon. On his garage wall he had a a board with about 20 different saw sets on it that he had collected. Whileputting parts into boxes he said that these go to and he took them down and put them in a box. They are still in the box and in my garage in Florida now. I have used a couple of them when I have sharpened my saws.


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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Allan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:50 pm

If that is a saw set, it must be for a saw with mighty big teeth. Otherwise adjacent teeth to the one being set will also be bent due to the width of the anvil. I'm more inclined to go withDave's 'snap installer'.

Most saw sets have a stationary anvil against which the tooth is bent. The anvil is set to limit the bend and angle the tooth. This tool does not.

I could be wrong again.
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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Kaiser » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:29 pm

Saw setter, the amount of 'set' is adjusted by dialing in the distance of the blade relative to the setter by moving the anvil closer or farther away from the setter and adjusting the other dial to the thickness of the blade. This is one for heavy sawblades as in a sawmill.
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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Allan » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:41 pm

No problems Leo. As I surmised, if it is a saw set, it must be for big teeth.

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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by George Mills » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:31 pm

It was 50 years ago and I was an apprentice carpenter. We had to make our own saws... one a crosscut...one a rip

You got a piece of tin...cut it to shape...Prussian blued it out...used a metal punch to poke out ‘teeth’...then trimming the edge...shaping the teeth...SETTING the KERF (using a tool like this) ...then sharpening with a file.

It took a week I think...and once we were done and “passed” they let us peek in the back room and there was this ancient machine that looked like K R Wilson would have come up with...load the blade stock, turn it on, did all of the above and shut itself off when done. 😊👍😊


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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Wayne Sheldon » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:15 am

George M, Made you understand and appreciate your tools, didn't it!

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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by George Mills » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:41 am

Wayne, sure did! But it was fun too and hey, 50 years later I could write out the steps in proper order even though I have never manually sharpen a saw since.

I know it sounds waxing...but the millennials are so into plug-n-play or busting into a bubble pack for a single use tool or simply 'buying new'. My one son lives near one of the biggest Amazon distribution center, so with Prime, he can discover a need in the morning, go on-line, and from 4 in the afternoon on actually have same-day delivery. :) Then, so his garage doesn't get too crowded (he is saving room for the '15 he claims) he turns around on Craigs-list and sells the 'used once' in about a day or two after being done with it. I'm pretty sure its not just my son who follows this approach...

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Re: OT - What is This Tool?

Post by Kaiser » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:19 am

Allan, on closer inspection, the angle on the 'anvil' is not concentric, so turning it give you different angles. problem solved !
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