Looking to have a couple of Anderson timers re-timed due to me bending the tabs, anybody have contact information?
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Anderson Timer Manufacturer
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Re: Anderson Timer Manufacturer
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Re: Anderson Timer Manufacturer
Phil, it only works to have someone else do it if your timing gear cover is properly centered. So you need to get or make a centering fixture.
Much less expensive, and very easy, is to just do it yourself.
I changed my procedure for accomplishing this task this week to make it much easier (less rotating of the crankshaft). The real advantage to doing it yourself is then any error on timing cover position doesn’t matter.
First you must have a good flapper. If it looks like the worn one pictured here you can’t set the timer no matter how it is done. The flapper will not track accurately. So first check your flapper!
Next set crank to top dead center and mark the pulley. A dot of paint works, I have an aluminum pulley so I punch marks or just use the split. The mark lines up with a boss on the timing gear cover at TDC. Put a second mark at BDC. This whole step is unnecessary if you want to find TDC by indicating the piston, but marking saves a lot of time and is much easier and more accurate.
Now bring each piston to dead center, turn ignition to battery and fully retardant spark. Slowly advance until it buzzes and mark the lever position on the tape.
Repeat so all 4 cylinders have been marked.
As you can see when I did this a few days ago #3 needed correcting. You carefully bend the contact in the timer until that errant mark conforms to the others.
The whole job can often be done in 15 minutes. Just remember to always set to retard before advancing until buzzing. That way you remove errors due to lash in the linkage.
IMHO, TH
Much less expensive, and very easy, is to just do it yourself.
I changed my procedure for accomplishing this task this week to make it much easier (less rotating of the crankshaft). The real advantage to doing it yourself is then any error on timing cover position doesn’t matter.
First you must have a good flapper. If it looks like the worn one pictured here you can’t set the timer no matter how it is done. The flapper will not track accurately. So first check your flapper!
Next set crank to top dead center and mark the pulley. A dot of paint works, I have an aluminum pulley so I punch marks or just use the split. The mark lines up with a boss on the timing gear cover at TDC. Put a second mark at BDC. This whole step is unnecessary if you want to find TDC by indicating the piston, but marking saves a lot of time and is much easier and more accurate.
Now bring each piston to dead center, turn ignition to battery and fully retardant spark. Slowly advance until it buzzes and mark the lever position on the tape.
Repeat so all 4 cylinders have been marked.
As you can see when I did this a few days ago #3 needed correcting. You carefully bend the contact in the timer until that errant mark conforms to the others.
The whole job can often be done in 15 minutes. Just remember to always set to retard before advancing until buzzing. That way you remove errors due to lash in the linkage.
IMHO, TH
Terry Horlick, Penn Valley, CA
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Re: Anderson Timer Manufacturer
For the timing, my receipes is :
For the timer tool... Use a soda straw, I like McDonalds, down cylinder hole #1 to find TDC while rotating the hand crank. Pin should be pointing at about 3:30 right when the cylinder starts the power stroke down. Now, rotate the timer cap clockwise until a coil buzzes then back off until it stops. Finish by setting the rod (may need to bend it) so the spark advance lever is all the way up, fully retarded. Hope that help as well
For the timer tool... Use a soda straw, I like McDonalds, down cylinder hole #1 to find TDC while rotating the hand crank. Pin should be pointing at about 3:30 right when the cylinder starts the power stroke down. Now, rotate the timer cap clockwise until a coil buzzes then back off until it stops. Finish by setting the rod (may need to bend it) so the spark advance lever is all the way up, fully retarded. Hope that help as well
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Re: Anderson Timer Manufacturer
Another thing I am now doing which is great fun:
After setting my timer I pulled the painters tape off of my quadrant and put fresh tape there. Then I cut a strip of paper to wrap around the pulley, marking TDC and degrees around the pulley.
Next I transferred the marks to the quadrant tape. Set the reading at the pulley, advance until buzz and mark. Done!
Now I have 15 degrees ATC (full retard) marked, TDC marked and degrees Up to 30 degrees of advance marked.
This allows me to know where it is safe to set spark for cranking (it cannot kick back if it retarded to any setting before zero degrees, TDC) and what advance works best. It makes understanding your car easier. I may even see if I can identify the exact position for the three settings you get from mag output.
Mario, a straw and 3:30 will get you close enough to get the job done. It will always be a bit more precise (well a bit less sloppy) to use a pulley marked at TDC. Just do it the way you like!
TH
After setting my timer I pulled the painters tape off of my quadrant and put fresh tape there. Then I cut a strip of paper to wrap around the pulley, marking TDC and degrees around the pulley.
Next I transferred the marks to the quadrant tape. Set the reading at the pulley, advance until buzz and mark. Done!
Now I have 15 degrees ATC (full retard) marked, TDC marked and degrees Up to 30 degrees of advance marked.
This allows me to know where it is safe to set spark for cranking (it cannot kick back if it retarded to any setting before zero degrees, TDC) and what advance works best. It makes understanding your car easier. I may even see if I can identify the exact position for the three settings you get from mag output.
Mario, a straw and 3:30 will get you close enough to get the job done. It will always be a bit more precise (well a bit less sloppy) to use a pulley marked at TDC. Just do it the way you like!
TH
Terry Horlick, Penn Valley, CA
1927 Mountain Patrol Vehicle from the Los Angeles City Fire Department (L.A.F.D.)
1912 Model T Ford English Station Omnibus
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Re: Anderson Timer Manufacturer
Thank you