What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

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What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by Retro54 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:05 am

Good day! I'm in the process of piecing together / building a wooden pickup bed for my 1915 cut-down touring car. A farmers special if you will. While the body and all other sheet metal that came with my project car is appropriate to the 1915 year, the rear fenders are 1925-26 coupe. I assume that coupe fenders will be challenging to incorporate into a pickup box. What does everyone use for rear fenders on these cut downs? Will only roadster fenders work /look right? Or can touring or other fenders work as well? I think I would prefer earlier fenders than the 25-26s that I have. Just looking for suggestions and/ or observations. Thank you.
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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by MWalker » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:43 am

The Roadster/Touring fenders are what most folks use. (Roadster and Touring have the same fenders.) If you can't find good '15-16 ones, the '17-25's will work. They have a crowned center, which the 15-16's do not, otherwise they're the same. I have some of each and am located in NW Arkansas. I have no idea where "Middletown" is. Email me for more info. Mike. waterwalk999@gmail.com

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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by Mark Gregush » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:54 am

While there were style changes, the touring and roadster fenders were the same up to 1925. I would use the flat top rear fenders that would be correct for 1915. Then design the box so no changes would have to be made to the fenders except how they mount. My 25 was done that way.
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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by Retro54 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:48 pm

Thank you both! Especially Mark for the photos! Sweet!

Mike, I'm near Hershey, PA. Where they have the AACA fall meet. I might email you even though we are far apart!


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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by MWalker » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:39 pm

Here are some pics of a rear fender on the '16 RPU I'm building.
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Note that the cross-section of the fender is flat across the center, whereas the 17-25's are crowned, as in Mark's pics. Otherwise they are the same overall shape, so either would work on your car. But if you're going to build a 15-16, the flat ones would be correct. The 15's have three rivets in the mounting brackets; 16's have four as shown in mine.

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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by DanTreace » Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:01 pm

A later touring car threaded rear fender mount works too on a cut-off touring for mounting the rear fenders, since you won't have a runabout type mount to the frame.

The cut-off body allows the side boards to mate with the body line, for smooth look.

Just find a pair of metal uprights from an old touring body, and drive the rivets out of the bracket. Then with bolts, mount the bracket to the wood sideboard, and thread in the fender stud. That way the rear fender hangs just like a touring.

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Note this bed is so narrow, the bed sideboard could be made in-line with the body at the rear door jam.
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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:03 pm

I found these in a dump and have used them on a trailer, a Speedster and a C-cab truck. I believe Rootlieb made them in 2 styles, one to attach to a running board and one like these. I doubt there are many originals around but if they are still being made they might work nicely.
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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by Allan » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:20 pm

I agree with Dan. The Shep's pickup body wastes a lot of space and does not line up well with the body. there is no reason why the sides cannot be angled outwards to follow the line of the body. If those sides are made with substantial boards, a straight mounting rod can be used from the fender to the sideboard. It does not have to look like a box.

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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by DanTreace » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:37 pm

Many ways to build your pickup bed box.

Most old time ones feature flare boards mounted above the side boards, and use angled metal straps to support.

Here was my first T years ago, red oak bed made with assistance of a local carpenter, who shaped a curved board to fit the body sweep at the backseat latch area. The box at the backrest was hinged and held the battery for easy access ;)
Attached the rear fenders with the bracket method posted above.

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Re: What rear fenders can be adapted to a 1915 RPU?

Post by Retro54 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:15 pm

You guys are wonderful and gracious with your knowledge! Thank you! I have all the hand-forged parts from an Indiana farm wagon that was rotting away on an uncle's property to use for hardware. The boards will be from rough sawn hemlock taken from my parent's property. Dad and I plan on starting the box later this summer which is why I was asking about the fender mount.

This is all awesome information. I have copied pictures to my 'inspiration' album which now has over 125 photos of home made as well as some factory boxes.

Andy

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