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What is this?

Post by modeltbarn » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:57 pm

I know it's not Ford, but it appears to be early and large, at least that's what we think based on the aluminum engine case and open valves. It is 6 cylinder and it is definitely a large car. The springs are huge.....

I need to identify this and find someone that wants it ASAP. Everything in the yard is about to be scrapped. There is also a 4 cylinder Buick undercarriage and a 6 cylinder Buick undercarriage.

Any help identifying this is appreciated.

I don't have much time, probably a few days.

Thanks!!
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Re: What is this?

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:08 pm

A six cylinder Buick perhaps 1922 or thereabouts.
Rich

P. S. From my Buick book:
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Making it a 1921 Sedan if I read it correctly.
When did I do that?


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Re: What is this?

Post by modeltbarn » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:59 pm

Thank you Dick!

There’s another 6 cylinder Dodge next to this, I don’t know the year. I wouldn’t have thought a car that late would have open valves, but who knows.... there doesn’t seem to be any way there could have been a cover, what with the pushrods running up the outside of the block.

The 4 cylinder undercarriageI know is a Dodge; in my initial post I said Buick.

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Re: What is this?

Post by Mark Gregush » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:17 pm

Chevrolet was overhead and didn't get rocker covers till about 1925 or 26 and push rods covers in 1928, so not uncommon to have open valve works.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
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Re: What is this?

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Re: What is this?

Post by Tom VanMeeteren » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:51 am

Model t barn, where is the engine located. I am interested, as I am currently working on a 1920 Buick


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Re: What is this?

Post by modeltbarn » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:38 am

Tom; it's in Southern CA. Best is to email me.. The price is right, but you've only got a few days.

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Re: What is this?

Post by Thorlick » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:52 am

Gary, Neat chassis. It is a 1918 Buick series 45. It will make a really nice speedster! Wish I had the time and the money!

I think you will be convinced when you see this photo of the 1918 Buick:


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Re: What is this?

Post by Thorlick » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:08 pm

Gary, I disagree about the 1922 Sedan idea. The number may be the same but the engine isn't. The 1918 had a very distinctive exposed valve and pushrod set in three groups of two cylinders. The 1922 had the more modern enclosed valve and pushrod train used for years to come.

That exposed pushrod engine just screams "Use me in a teens speedster!" This 1922 engine just yawns "Ho-hum".


1922 Buick... NOT 1918!
1922 Buick... NOT 1918!
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Re: What is this?

Post by modeltbarn » Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:26 pm

Terry;

This is about to be scrapped. Sure you don't want it? There is some sheet metal that may be for it.


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Re: What is this?

Post by modeltbarn » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:28 pm

Tom;

The phone number you emailed for your friend is disconnected.

I've put these up on the AACA site as well.

All someone has to do is remove them, if they want to donate something to the grand kid's college fund that's great but not required. You've got to remove the entire undercarriage, it's not possible to disassemble and remove parts on site.

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