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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IeUSBRzbxA
In the link, a man in the video with a '26 as a daily driver says that he made the engine from 20 to 40 HP, and that he, "can now climb hills with it." He says that he put a high compression head on it. What does that mean? (I'm a novice when it comes to engines, please spare me!).

Nice video. Man on the street interview, so sometimes an owner will embellish things. I have before.

Accessory cylinder heads are made today, as in the past They can add 5+ hp, and help out the T power plant. Other adds like cam and carb help. Making a T get 40hp with just valves in block and high compression head is a stretch, now with a Rajo or other OHV set up, yes!

Nice runabout pickup the owner restored, he is quite good at that and likely a good fisherman too

If you add all the aftermarket things made to increase HP for a T over the years, you can easily get 50 to 60 HP from your T. I got 2 HP just bolting on my APCO explosion proof muffler with a built in cutout!
I fish also.

Dallas Landers wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:10 pm

If you add all the aftermarket things made to increase HP for a T over the years, you can easily get 50 to 60 HP from your T.

And if you weigh em all... you’ll need all that extra HP, and a helper spring too!!!

Never hesitate to pop on and ask anything, even if you think it is a 'dumb' question. We were/are all novices too.

One thing to consider is that upping HP means more stress in the engine and transmission = probably shorter life span of some parts.
Then you have to stop the car = upgrade brakes too (need auxiliary ones there).
Then handling of a much faster T can be "questionable" around corners unless you add extra shocks and/or lower the car or build a 'speedster'. There is plenty of help and books available for doing that too - and some nice 'wheels' have been made on all sorts of budgets.

Perhaps ask yourself two questions: "what do I want to do with my T" and "how much do I want to spend..."

My T is 'standard' and I can drive up hills too

The beauty of the hobby is "if its good for you - then its good!"

Many years ago at a tour there was a coupe with a switch on dash labeled “ Turbo Boost “. The switch would ground the generator. Owner said he could gain about 2 hp doing that.

I noticed that the timer was fully retarded while the engine was idling and when the owner drove away. I suspect that he made non-standard adjustments to timer settings too.

This will be a 40hp model t/a

Seems like a great guy and proud of his car as he should be!

I have a stock 26 Roadster. In Death Valley there is a viewpoint called Dante's View. Lee Chase told me it is a good viewpoint. So I went up with my wife, Dolores. None of the other T's took that road. I have the cowl mounted gas tank so I could go up the hill going forward. I used both Ruckstell and Low pedal to climb the hill and also to go down the hill. The road is almost straight up. Anyway, it can be done with a standard engine. I don't think it would have worked without the Ruckstell. Note: Unless you want to go up in reverse, don't try that with the under seat gas tank unless you have a fuel pump.
Norm

I have heard of using a Model A crankshaft or a new T crankshaft with a longer stroke to increase the horsepower. Might get 40 by doing it, however, the rest of the drivetrain was not made for that much increase and is a weak point.
Norm

Norman Kling wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:55 am

I have a stock 26 Roadster. In Death Valley there is a viewpoint called Dante's View. Lee Chase told me it is a good viewpoint. So I went up with my wife, Dolores. None of the other T's took that road. I have the cowl mounted gas tank so I could go up the hill going forward. I used both Ruckstell and Low pedal to climb the hill and also to go down the hill. The road is almost straight up. Anyway, it can be done with a standard engine. I don't think it would have worked without the Ruckstell. Note: Unless you want to go up in reverse, don't try that with the under seat gas tank unless you have a fuel pump.

We used to live on the top of a street in Oakland (Ca) like that, went from the flatlands to the top of the Oakland Hills through a number of twists and turns climbing all the way. Gas station at the bottom of the hill. One time I forgot to top up, got to about the second "low low" climb and out of gas we went...

My Pikes Peaks almost didn't get us stopped, it was a VERY hairy few seconds as we started to roll backwards... I found a long perpendicular and slightly inclined driveway, aimed for it, and made it into it (somehow), to this day I don't know how the car ended up not on it's side.

NEVER let the gas get low again.

To me there is no point in increasing the horsepower beyond about 25 or so for a full bodied car. I really don't want to drive my touring car more than about 45 mph anyway because of safety issues and because it is just more fun at the slower speeds. Now if you are going to go racing or want a really fast speedster, then yes. But make sure you upgrade the brakes and steering too. And make sure your life insurance is paid up.

Neil

Dallas Landers wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:10 pm

If you add all the aftermarket things made to increase HP for a T over the years, you can easily get 50 to 60 HP from your T. I got 2 HP just bolting on my APCO explosion proof muffler with a built in cutout!
I fish also.

"Lies, damn lies, and Model T HP claims."

Mark Twain (sort of)

To add a bit to what Adrian Whiteman and Neil Kaminar posted above, I bought an amateur restored, but quite nice driver grade '26 Touring from the widow of the fellow who restored it and for whatever reason (???) had installed a Ruckstell rear end as well as an iron Warford auxiliary transmission. With the Ruckstell, the Warford and the Ford planetary all in low, that thing with just the stock engine develops unbelievable torque. I have a Model A and several other Model T's readily available to drive, maintain, play with, etc., and the '26 Touring is normally left in the garage at our place in the San Juan Islands here in WA that the whole family is free to use as a sort of "vacation" home, and I have advised family members to feel free to "play with" the '26 Touring as they wish, but to keep in mind that with everything geared down for low speed but that even with only 20 hp, and "power like a tractor", to keep in mind that it can actually "hurt itself" if "misused"! For what it's worth,.....harold