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OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:52 pm
by mortier
The radiator badge on my 1924 Citroen is soldered in place and must be removed to nickel plate the shell. I'm afraid to re-solder the restored badge on the re-plated shell. Any suggestions? A badge restoration guy says to use silicone adhesive.
Phil
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:27 pm
by Norman Kling
I think you might be able to solder if you use a large iron. Do not use a torch.
Norm
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:33 pm
by Kerry
I agree, silicine works fine but can be a job and a half if you have to remove it later.
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:07 pm
by mortier
I used a torch to remove the emblem on a similar spare radiator shell and the neck fell right off. I was thinking, for re-attaching the emblem, to position a piece of solder beneath it, then holding the iron underneath.
Phil
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:38 pm
by DanTreace
Just me, but I wouldn't trust silicone adhesive for such a rare piece. As silicone adhesive can age and the heat alone at that spot on the radiator would make silicone adhesive for long term in that vibration spot a suspect.
The extremely rare emblem off this shell was originally held just with rolled metal edge in a circle, it was loose over time too, so pried it off to refinish the shell. Installed the cloisonné emblem back in place using J-B Weld. Can trust J-B for this preservation.
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:07 pm
by Greg Griffin
Isn't JB Weld over paint only adhering to the paint?
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:11 pm
by Aarongriffey
Get some blue or gray RTV, put a spot of it on the back of the badge and tape it to the radiator shell and get on with life.
Take the tape off after a day and a night.
It probably will be a beech to get off some day. So?
The will not rot the RTV.
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:20 pm
by DanTreace
Greg
Good comment, on this shell the area around the circle was masked from paint, and circle of J-B Weld placed on emblem, plus some around the rim of the emblem on the inside of the shell.
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:01 pm
by Greg Griffin
Dan, you're one who always makes sense.
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:06 pm
by mortier
Does J-B Weld stick to nickel plating?
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:30 am
by Allan
I would not trust silicone with a unique piece. I would tin the back of the badge anfd the mounting site on the radiator shell first. Then make a ring of so ft wire solder to go under the badge. Place the shell on the level and heat the underside of the shell with a gentle flame and the wire solder will melt and fuse the two together.
Hope this helps.
Allan from down under.
Re: OT: Radiator Badge Attachment
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:28 am
by Chad_Marcheese
If you use Permatex Ultra Grey silicone and not on a painted surface that is clean, dry, and oil free, It will stay on longer than you will live. I work in the diesel engine industry and it is the manufacture recommended sealant for our engines. Those engines got really hot and tons of vibration. I have used some myself at home, I can attest to how hard it is to get off.