Early T question

[Belliott3]

For those who own or are familiar with a 1909/10 Touring, was the rear floorboard covered with a fitted, snap-in carpet? I don't think the early cars used the cocoa mat but I could be wrong. I've seen a couple touring cars on-line with the short pile, fitted carpet and Gail Rodda has one in his 1909. If this is the case where would I go to have this carpet made? Any input would be greatly appreciated!

[ModelT46]

When I bought my 1910 Touring in 1946 it had a coca mat on the rear floor. I have reason to believe it is the original mat that came with the T. I still have that mat.

[pete eastwood]

in Gail's book , it says they had " cut pile black carpet "
My dad's '09 , which he bought in 1953, had carpet , & he was the third owner .

[Original Smith]

I have never liked the cocoa mats that are currently being made. I can't believe someone doesn't have an original one we can see.

[Quickm007]

According to litterature, use of the cocoa mat in 1909-10 is correct.

[Quickm007]

But I'm may be wrog too, because another source said:


"1909-1910

Off-white rubber in front; wool carpet in rear of tourings. White rubber mat on rear of mother-in-law seat roadsters.

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/F-H.htm#flor2

Sometimes not easy to find the accurate info. Hope that help as well

[Russ_Furstnow]

Bill, Here is a photo of an early Ford parts book that shows the rear tonneau carpet (Part number 3607) for the 1909-1910 touring. You can see by the shape that the wool carpet extends up the floorboard behind the gas tank. I found a company that sold imported black cut pile wool carpet, and cut and and edged the carpet for my 1909. I hope this helps. Russ Furstnow

[KimDobbins]

I did the same as Russ, I remember finding documentation some where that at least on early cars the rear floor was carpet.

[TonyB]

My 1909 kit of parts included a white rubber mat, I guess it must be a repro from sometime in the past. If does look quite nice and matches the white rubber mat at the front. Mind you I rather prefer the look of the stained and varnished wood floor.

[1906jford]

I have an original early 1909 January engine #685 but very original, its had paint put on it in the early 1940's and this car has still got it original floor mat in the rear which is carpet with the press studs in the corners and to me it looks like a green sort of color in the carpet. If you want any more particulars email and I can help with information and photos.

[Bill Elliott]

Wow, thanks for all the input, especially the parts sheet and photos showing the actual carpet! So am I correct in assuming that only the 1909 and early '10's had carpet and then the cocoa mat was used? If so, does anyone know what the "cutoff" date would have been? Mine is a February of 1910.

[Russ_Furstnow]

Bill, I sent you a PM, Russ Furstnow

[Bill Elliott]

Thanks Russ! Did they cut it to size and band the edges too or did you do that?