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Playin in the shop today...
Amongst all the other projects... not sure why I felt the urge to make this...
I had a couple bad numbers along the way, so this one isn’t perfect or finished... but will correct on the next one. This one is for a size AA-B, and is just about identical to the original.
One piece at a time I’m getting closer to a complete pair of S-B downdrafts for my Akron conversion
I had a couple bad numbers along the way, so this one isn’t perfect or finished... but will correct on the next one. This one is for a size AA-B, and is just about identical to the original.
One piece at a time I’m getting closer to a complete pair of S-B downdrafts for my Akron conversion
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Awesome workmanship!
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Nice Kevin, well needed item!
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Here is a shot during the machining... started out this morning with a piece of 3-1/2” diameter round aluminum
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Ed Winfield would be proud...
As for me.. I'm super impressed. Ed made some of the best performance gear to be had, and I keep thinkng if someone would have kept his dream alive in the 30's and 40's, he would be a name to fear on tracks even in this fuel-injected era...
IF you decide to make these to sell, PLEASE let us know!!!
As for me.. I'm super impressed. Ed made some of the best performance gear to be had, and I keep thinkng if someone would have kept his dream alive in the 30's and 40's, he would be a name to fear on tracks even in this fuel-injected era...
IF you decide to make these to sell, PLEASE let us know!!!
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Awesome! Always do what seems right at the time.
You did well.
Rich
You did well.
Rich
When did I do that?
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I made some AA-B straight choke housings a couple years ago, along with the butterflies, shafts, and hardware to complete
I considered making these choke elbows back then... but started looking into investment casting as the machine work is not exactly simple. Still not sure exactly what came over me today... but a day well spent!
I considered making these choke elbows back then... but started looking into investment casting as the machine work is not exactly simple. Still not sure exactly what came over me today... but a day well spent!
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Very nice work!
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Since the bosses for the choke shaft were cut wrong anyway... I though I would just cut em off and give er a good shinin up...
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Ssssshhhhh, Polish sells!
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Who said anything bout selling...? That would be against the forum rules!
There may be a few extras available in the future, but for now... I’m just playin in the shop
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Received the tools to finish the choke elbow today. Hoping to finish the polished one... and also make a couple choke elbows complete with the butterflies this weekend
Looking forward to finishing up this project so I can move on to the V band clamp to attach the choke elbow. Thinking stainless...
Looking forward to finishing up this project so I can move on to the V band clamp to attach the choke elbow. Thinking stainless...
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Here’s one fresh off the mill... a bit of blending and it’ll be ready to run!
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Well..., as the ole sayin states, try try again! Looks Great Kevin!
As I found out years ago, sometimes the wallet goes empty but the scrap metal pile grows.
Hmmmmm.
As I found out years ago, sometimes the wallet goes empty but the scrap metal pile grows.
Hmmmmm.
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Was goin to make a few more of these this morning... but as soon as I turned on my machine there was a power glitch and I got spooked. Maybe it had somethin to do with the 100 degree heat at 10 am...?. Only supposed to get up to 108 later...
So I decided to do something that didn’t require any electrically sensitive equipment today
Now I have a matching pair of choke horns for the pair of Winfield S-B downdrafts that will eventually fuel my Akron-Hed motor. Even tho the one horn is technically “wrong”, it’s going to work out perfectly. When a pair of Winfield’s were purchased originally, only one choke elbow was complete with butterfly
When the weather changes back to liveable... I will continue with the V band clamp to hold the choke horn onto the body, and the choke lever.
So I decided to do something that didn’t require any electrically sensitive equipment today
Now I have a matching pair of choke horns for the pair of Winfield S-B downdrafts that will eventually fuel my Akron-Hed motor. Even tho the one horn is technically “wrong”, it’s going to work out perfectly. When a pair of Winfield’s were purchased originally, only one choke elbow was complete with butterfly
When the weather changes back to liveable... I will continue with the V band clamp to hold the choke horn onto the body, and the choke lever.
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What a delight! Us lesser mortals can only gaze in awe. Thanks for sharing
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Did some more playin last nite... I haven’t got the right size material yet, so used a piece of stainless that was a bit undersized to prove the program would work, and hopefully do a fit check.
Other than the part being incomplete due to the undersized material... the program ran good, and the part fits good! Looks good too.
Now just have to patiently wait for the right material to show up...!
Other than the part being incomplete due to the undersized material... the program ran good, and the part fits good! Looks good too.
Now just have to patiently wait for the right material to show up...!
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So while impatiently waiting for material... I made an aluminum V clamp to verify fit and completion. All good! Now back to “patiently” waiting...!
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Continuing to play in the shop today...
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Now that is a work of art.
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Very nice work.
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I have never seen one like that. What kind of car does it fit? Is it for a Model T? Were the cars ever fitted with that type from the factory?
I'm sure others on this forum would also like answers to these and possibly other questions. It is beautiful, but just don't know the use?
Norm
I'm sure others on this forum would also like answers to these and possibly other questions. It is beautiful, but just don't know the use?
Norm
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Norman- Kevin is making a float bowl for a model S Winfield carb. The S and SR Winfields were made after the Model M barrel valve carburetors.
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Norman, the Winfield carburetors were an aftermarket accessory, and were not factory equipment on anything as far as I know. They did offer a number of carburetor sizes and manifold/adapter options to cover most production cars, and of course... performance applications.
My hope is to build a pair of carburetors from scratch, to run on the soon to be Akron-Hed equipped motor in my speedster
My hope is to build a pair of carburetors from scratch, to run on the soon to be Akron-Hed equipped motor in my speedster
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I have the factory catalogue for all Model M units, with application guides for all known cars in the 20's.Dan McEachern wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:32 pmNorman- Kevin is making a float bowl for a model S Winfield carb. The S and SR Winfields were made after the Model M barrel valve carburetors.
It's quite the treasure.
Norman, they were a very popular aftermarket carb.
Think modern day Summit Racing
Ed Winfield was a cam designer/ grinder of notable fame.
He even designed a Corvette cam for Zora Duntov. They were old buddies.
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A closer look at the first operation. All the bowl cover screws and jet holes will be drilled and threaded before this operation is done. Next, the bowl ID will be held via an expanding mandrel so that I can cut the mounting flange and drill the last few holes
This darn “workin” thing is gettin in the way of progress!!
This darn “workin” thing is gettin in the way of progress!!
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This forum really needs a "Like" button.
"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it." -George Orwell
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I know how y’all like progress pics...
Finally scrounged up the time to finish the first operation of the Winfield model “S” float bowl. The bowl is designed to directly interchange with the originals with the exception of the float ball. I intend to incorporate a readily available replacement float... but still have to figure that part out
Finally scrounged up the time to finish the first operation of the Winfield model “S” float bowl. The bowl is designed to directly interchange with the originals with the exception of the float ball. I intend to incorporate a readily available replacement float... but still have to figure that part out
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Nitrophyl ball.
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That was the original idea... but Nitrophyl is only available in 1” thick blocks, and I need a 2-1/8” sphere. I haven’t made up my mind yet, but am currently considering a readily available 2” stainless steel welded sphere. Having a special run of Nitrophyl floats is very unlikely to be cost effective. And spinning and soldering floats doesn’t sound like fun either. If the S/S float doesn’t work out, I’m thinking of laminating Nitrophyl sheets and cutting into the sphere, then riveting together with a special made rivet...
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If you haven't noticed by now, KEVIN IS A TRUE GENIUS. His wire wheels also are a thing of beauty
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Kevin Pharis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:38 pmThat was the original idea... but Nitrophyl is only available in 1” thick blocks, and I need a 2-1/8” sphere. I haven’t made up my mind yet, but am currently considering a readily available 2” stainless steel welded sphere. Having a special run of Nitrophyl floats is very unlikely to be cost effective. And spinning and soldering floats doesn’t sound like fun either. If the S/S float doesn’t work out, I’m thinking of laminating Nitrophyl sheets and cutting into the sphere, then riveting together with a special made rivet...
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Since Jeff lives just down the steeet from me, I figured I should revisit the metal spinning discussion... met with him today, and it’s lookin promising!
Will make some tooling and see how it turns out...
Will make some tooling and see how it turns out...
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You can make the $$ back if the float is correct for originals as well.Kevin Pharis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:00 pmSince Jeff lives just down the steeet from me, I figured I should revisit the metal spinning discussion... met with him today, and it’s lookin promising!
Will make some tooling and see how it turns out...
Win win.
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Kevin, It looks like you are well on your way to building complete carburetors.......WOW. I would love to have the 6V available.
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I hope he pulls it off. That unit would sell to all 4 banger guys, not just Model T guys.John Warren wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:32 amKevin, It looks like you are well on your way to building complete carburetors.......WOW. I would love to have the 6V available.
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John Warren wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:32 amKevin, It looks like you are well on your way to building complete carburetors.......WOW. I would love to have the 6V available.
“Complete carburetors”... I sure hope so! It feels like I’ve got a lot done... but still have a lot more work to go!
As for the 6V... would be cool, but you’re gonna have to find someone else!
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Finished up the fixtures to spin the new brass floats tonite...
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Found some time over the weekend to finish the float bowl!
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Well done Kevin. That looks killer. Kudos.
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With the float bowl finished, and float balls right around the corner... Seems like the float bowl cover and fuel inlet block should be next. Still have some design work to be done on the throttle barrel, but shouldn’t be too far out in the future
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Kevin, I think you need to change your last name to "Winfield"... You are bringing a legend back to life... and watching it happen in front of us is fascinating. Well done, sir!
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Here’s all 5! They’re deburred, tumbled, and cleaned... and just about ready to use. All that’s left to do is plug off the cross holes that connect the jets to the accelerator wells.
Now I can start on the float bowl cover...
Now I can start on the float bowl cover...
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Copper plate them suckers.
Kevin, that is a very special endeavor.
I want one or two, and I have nothing to put them on, yet,maybe,if I live long enough.
Kevin, that is a very special endeavor.
I want one or two, and I have nothing to put them on, yet,maybe,if I live long enough.
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I tried playing mad scientist last weekend... and built up a plating setup for both nickel and copper. Turns out that copper doesn’t stick to aluminum... but nickel does, then can be top coated with copper.
I’m pretty sure I was able to get one of the choke elbows nickel plated (no color change), but couldn’t get any more than a slight haze of copper to stick. I think I need more power! I’ll try again someday when I’m closer to being done, or I’ll just hire a professional...
I’m pretty sure I was able to get one of the choke elbows nickel plated (no color change), but couldn’t get any more than a slight haze of copper to stick. I think I need more power! I’ll try again someday when I’m closer to being done, or I’ll just hire a professional...
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The first float sample pieces are here! They all look and fit good. The material thicknesses all seem to be right, and so I’m confident they’ll float right too. Maybe I’ll try some soldering this weekend...?
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Progress. They look great!
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Kevin, I have a SR that the float sank on, I found round stainless floats about the right size but I'm wondering why the flat area on the Winfield floats?
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Incorporating the readily available 2” stainless steel ball float was my original plan. Turns out the buoyancy is wrong compared to the original brass floats, and was going to require a great deal of modification to the float lever. Also, being 1/8” undersize I was concerned with sloshing of the fuel as the ball float acts as a baffle.
The correct float for an SR is spherical, but has a large flat on the bottom, as the addition of the accelerator pump takes up space in the bottom of the float bowl. The S float is a true sphere. Both model floats are pictured above
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On My 6V, it uses a cylinder shape float with a center guide. I used a stromberg float while I repaired mine. It was close but no cigar. Love what you are doing Kevin. jw
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At first look it would seem like “floating is floating”. But turns out the buoyancy of a carb float is a delicate balance. Until this project I never fully grasped the required precision of setting the fuel level. We are always told to measure the gap between the float and lid to set... but rarely consider that the float must be of a specific weight and displacement for it all to work as designed.
Nice job saving your V/H float John!
Nice job saving your V/H float John!
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Thanks Kevin.
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While I wait for floats...
Have been working on the float bowl cover. It’s designed to take a modern Viton tipped needle and seat, and will otherwise interchange with an original float bowl cover. All that’s left to do now, is to crimp the bore to retain the detent balls.
Have been working on the float bowl cover. It’s designed to take a modern Viton tipped needle and seat, and will otherwise interchange with an original float bowl cover. All that’s left to do now, is to crimp the bore to retain the detent balls.
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Re: Playin in the shop today...
A lot of work.
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All that’s left now is the throttle barrel!
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Just amazing Kevin. Beautiful.
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So I’m stuck waiting for tools to finish the throttle barrel, so I started pondering my future...
To copper plate...? Or just polish...?
To copper plate...? Or just polish...?
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Polish, the plated has bling but doesn't look right to me.
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You could always plate it later.
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I like the copper... looks more authentic.
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Plating with a brass tone sounds pretty cool. Even though the originals weren’t brass, I think that it’s a good look for our cars...
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Finally feel like I’m making some real progress today...
Still have to finish the external surfaces on 2 sides... but that seems like the easy part!
Still have to finish the external surfaces on 2 sides... but that seems like the easy part!
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It’s been slow goin since my last post... but goin better now that I have got the first operation of the throttle barrel refined down to 7 hours! And I won’t mention the few bad parts that have happened along the way
But while the mill runs the throttle barrels I have started the lathe work making some of the small hardware pieces. So far I’ve got stainless steel bowl to barrel studs, brass float bowl level plugs, and brass idle port plugs. I also ordered custom ground piloted reamers for the throttle shaft bushings, and have been getting staged to make the throttle plates and shafts before finishing the OD of the throttle barrels.
I did get distracted making a couple S-A to Model A intake manifold adapters in the meantime too...
But while the mill runs the throttle barrels I have started the lathe work making some of the small hardware pieces. So far I’ve got stainless steel bowl to barrel studs, brass float bowl level plugs, and brass idle port plugs. I also ordered custom ground piloted reamers for the throttle shaft bushings, and have been getting staged to make the throttle plates and shafts before finishing the OD of the throttle barrels.
I did get distracted making a couple S-A to Model A intake manifold adapters in the meantime too...
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Today was throttle plate day. It started out kinda iffy this morning... but smoothed out nicely enough to yield a couple of nice fitting throttle plates
Here we are in the lathe gettin spherical
Here we are in the lathe gettin spherical
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OK, I give up. Just make all this look easy. This while project is a different world than the one I live in. I appreciate being able to see the efforts of folks with real skills.
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Kevin, Thanks very much for posting such great pictures of all your progress! Your work is truly amazing and you call it just "playing" That throttle plate is quite a unique design!!
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Thanks for the kind words fellas. This project definitely started out as playin... but now it’s turned into more of an obsession! My wife even started calling it “the other woman”. Still fun tho!
The throttle plates were a challenge figuring out how to make. They are basically a modified ball bearing... so where do you start, and what do you hold on to. I finally figured how I could cut all the important surfaces in one operation, then finish the spherical OD in the lathe.
There is no shortage of challenges with this project! But I am looking forward to the throttle plates and barrels being finished, cuz all that will be left is the internal brass. Seems easy by comparison...
The throttle plates were a challenge figuring out how to make. They are basically a modified ball bearing... so where do you start, and what do you hold on to. I finally figured how I could cut all the important surfaces in one operation, then finish the spherical OD in the lathe.
There is no shortage of challenges with this project! But I am looking forward to the throttle plates and barrels being finished, cuz all that will be left is the internal brass. Seems easy by comparison...
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Been cruzin thru the brass components pretty smooth lately. Have all the lathe work done... and almost all of the mill work too. Just a few more pieces to cut slots and drill holes in, and then it’ll be time to finish all the other odds and ends...
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And since I was making all these little parts... I figured it was time to splurge on a new toy too. After all, you can’t be all work and no play! So I treated myself to a new milling vice...
The fixture I made to mill the float bowls and throttle barrels was allowing the material to move around during certain drilling operations, causing much unnecessary heartburn at times! This little beauty should solve my issues.
The fixture I made to mill the float bowls and throttle barrels was allowing the material to move around during certain drilling operations, causing much unnecessary heartburn at times! This little beauty should solve my issues.
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I hope you found that at a garage sale.
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Have you considered a copper colored anodize instead of plating?
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Kevin, Thanks for the update, I've been wondering about your progress and it sure looks great!! Can't wait to find out what you decide for the finish color.
Are Ed Winfield and hotrod legend Gene Winfield related?
Are Ed Winfield and hotrod legend Gene Winfield related?
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I have been looking over the anodize colors available thru several shops... and there are some appealing choices in the copper/brass/bronze colors. Will probably end up with a simple polished finish tho, as I will likely run out of patience...
Yard sales are great places to find treasures... but have yet to find exactly what I’ve been looking for at one. I had to bite the bullet for this vice and I’m glad I did. Haven’t used it yet, but it looks great on the bench
Yard sales are great places to find treasures... but have yet to find exactly what I’ve been looking for at one. I had to bite the bullet for this vice and I’m glad I did. Haven’t used it yet, but it looks great on the bench
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Re: Playin in the shop today...
After almost 7 months of waiting, I was finally able to guilt the metal spinner into producing my float halves... looks like I will be doing my own metal spinning in the future. Out of the 20 or so pieces, I was able to find 2 pieces that could be assembled into a dimensionally correct part.
I’m going to have to make another batch tho, as the weights of the components isn’t quite right... and so my new float doesn’t quite float like it should
It’s all good tho, as now I have lots of parts to practice soldering with
I’m going to have to make another batch tho, as the weights of the components isn’t quite right... and so my new float doesn’t quite float like it should
It’s all good tho, as now I have lots of parts to practice soldering with
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Contrary to popular belief... there has been Winfield progress lately...
My first batch of float bowl covers had a minor design oversight... so did the second... but that’s all behind me now with the third edition! So I made up a batch and have been working toward complete subassemblies of cover, detent balls, Viton tipped needle and seat, and float lever.
The float bowl covers were a minor dimensional adjustment from the previous design, a new detent ball crimping fixture was made, and all went smoothly and assembled well. Just had to decide what to do for the float levers...
I went back and forth for a bit... and eventually decided to machine them from solid brass bar. So while I was at it, I made a few I also came across an adjustment screw cover, and decided to make a few
My first batch of float bowl covers had a minor design oversight... so did the second... but that’s all behind me now with the third edition! So I made up a batch and have been working toward complete subassemblies of cover, detent balls, Viton tipped needle and seat, and float lever.
The float bowl covers were a minor dimensional adjustment from the previous design, a new detent ball crimping fixture was made, and all went smoothly and assembled well. Just had to decide what to do for the float levers...
I went back and forth for a bit... and eventually decided to machine them from solid brass bar. So while I was at it, I made a few I also came across an adjustment screw cover, and decided to make a few
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Holy cow! I hope you are planning on spending some time teaching an apprentice or two to pass this knowledge along. Just the practical logic of how you hold parts and the sequence of machining operations would have Leonardo patting you on the back! Cheers, Bill
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Beautiful. Are you going to be offering assembled units for sale? I know that there is a hungry crowd of vintage racing fans that will consume them readily.
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So far, all the components will interchange with the original Winfield carbs, and I have been making extras for this reason. I’m not really the “long term plan” kinda guy... but nobody else is producing parts for these carbs, and it’s not getting any easier to find good originals.ThreePedalTapDancer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:57 amBeautiful. Are you going to be offering assembled units for sale?
If nothing else, I’m proud to be able to offer some technical knowledge and repair parts to people interested in these iconic carbs.
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Hi Kevin ,
when do you think the parts will be available for sale?
thank you , John
when do you think the parts will be available for sale?
thank you , John
Who's still makes these gaskets, I might be in the market for a solid copper one myself.
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Re: Playin in the shop today...
Really nice stuff, Kevin
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Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny
NH Full Flow Float Valves
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured
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I have found that there are not very many interchangeable parts from size to size, S to SR, and even updraft to downdraft variations. Due to this variety, it would would be a massive undertaking to produce a complete inventory of replacement parts for all sizes/variations. But having most of the tooling and basic designs figured out... I figure I can make what can’t be found.John bevardos wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:29 pmwhen do you think the parts will be available for sale?
If you have any specific needs, please feel free to contact me directly
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Thanks Scott. Your latest carb brass looks pretty darn nice too I feel your pain when it comes to the fixture building time
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Well... had a bout with the C19 over the last several weeks, causing a complete and total stop to all progress on all fronts. I’m back on my feet now, and trying to catch up to all my irons in the fire.
Turns out there is a rush on Buffalo wheel parts this year, and so I will be distracted for at least the next few months. Not all carb progress will halt tho... I will still be pushing the metal spinner to complete the float balls, and also workin to have the Akron-Hed intake manifold cast using 3D printed sand. We’ll see what other carb projects slip into the mix along the way...
Turns out there is a rush on Buffalo wheel parts this year, and so I will be distracted for at least the next few months. Not all carb progress will halt tho... I will still be pushing the metal spinner to complete the float balls, and also workin to have the Akron-Hed intake manifold cast using 3D printed sand. We’ll see what other carb projects slip into the mix along the way...
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Made some exiting progress this evening! After what feels like forever, I was able to get a throttle barrel back in the mill to take the final finishing cuts. Still have a few holes to drill, but cosmetically this part is essentially finished
I hope to have at least 1 of these throttle barrels cleaned up and ready to run by the end of the weekend...
I hope to have at least 1 of these throttle barrels cleaned up and ready to run by the end of the weekend...
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Looks good Kevin. You were actually able to get this detail on Millzilla? That’s a lot of table to move around.
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Sure did Andy. Turns out Millzilla can do nice work if I talk to it real nice
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I love it when you play in the shop, Kevin. And I'm glad to hear you are weighed down with the rush of Buffalo wheels!
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Success!!!
Well... success on this test part with bad internal features. Will have to get out in the shop early tomorrow to make up one that is good all over!
Well... success on this test part with bad internal features. Will have to get out in the shop early tomorrow to make up one that is good all over!
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When I play in my shop, I only seem to make a mess and leave oil spots on the floor. Impressive skills you have to be able to build a carburetor.
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Gettin there...
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I hate to say it, but it’s almost time to bolt it to a motor and see if it works. I’m thinking the odds are pretty good it will.
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The punch list is pretty short now... need to drill one last idle passage in the throttle barrel and it’s DUN! Need to build and install 2 brass plugs to plug off main jet passages in float bowl and it’s DUN! Only parts left are the float ball and the throttle shaft stop lever, and I will begin to test with originals rather than wait for these to finish.
The head needs some minor machine work still... need to machine down the valve guide bosses to clear the inside of the T valve springs, and make thick shims to get the springs to the proper compressed height when installed. Also facing off the head bolt bosses to the same heights so that the rocker sub plate doesn’t twist when the head bolts are installed.
In all reality, only minor work left to do!
The head needs some minor machine work still... need to machine down the valve guide bosses to clear the inside of the T valve springs, and make thick shims to get the springs to the proper compressed height when installed. Also facing off the head bolt bosses to the same heights so that the rocker sub plate doesn’t twist when the head bolts are installed.
In all reality, only minor work left to do!
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Fantastic work Kevin! Super jealous of your skills! I think I could read this thread over and over - happily!
I found one of Ed's 20s side drafts in what seems very good condition, had it shipped here and then found one of his updrafts complete with manifold in similar condition. Should have my hands on that in the next fortnight.
I decided to buy both as we have clearance issues with a lot of stuff due to the steering column being on the right in Australia. Both gives me some luxury in solving those problems, then I'll likely sell one of the two.
Once I get everything I'll check over it all and may contact you for some advice or even see if your willing to make some parts.
best regards
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I found one of Ed's 20s side drafts in what seems very good condition, had it shipped here and then found one of his updrafts complete with manifold in similar condition. Should have my hands on that in the next fortnight.
I decided to buy both as we have clearance issues with a lot of stuff due to the steering column being on the right in Australia. Both gives me some luxury in solving those problems, then I'll likely sell one of the two.
Once I get everything I'll check over it all and may contact you for some advice or even see if your willing to make some parts.
best regards
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Been a busy few months since my last update... Buffalo wheels, Buffalo rear hubs, Buffalo hex caps, Winfield choke horns, Winfield V band clamps, Winfield fuel inlets, and I’m sure I’m forgetting something...
But at least the shelf will be stocked for a bit
But at least the shelf will be stocked for a bit
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I Just got a visual of ksanta's workshop with all the millelves working! You do fantastic work sir!Kevin Pharis wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:11 amBeen a busy few months since my last update... Buffalo wheels, Buffalo rear hubs, Buffalo hex caps, Winfield choke horns, Winfield V band clamps, Winfield fuel inlets, and I’m sure I’m forgetting something...
But at least the shelf will be stocked for a bit
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Ksanta is lined up to deliver a few more Christmas presents this year... then it’s all Winfield’s and Akron’s for me!
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Stealing towels out of the house again are we?
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Testing on my dads touring today. Swapped out his original S-B for my new one, and running pretty darn sweet!! He’s goin to hook up the linkage and we’ll do some road testing later
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The running carb was shipped to a specialist a couple weeks ago... and it turns out today was it’s turn on the flow bench. There will be an official report next week, but the preliminary report this afternoon was really good! The guru likes the design, and compares it to a “Fish” performance carburetor produced in the 40’s - 50’s.
I was surprised when he told me that this seemingly little carb flows an amazing 153 cfm!!! That makes this carb similar in size to a Stromberg 97!
I was surprised when he told me that this seemingly little carb flows an amazing 153 cfm!!! That makes this carb similar in size to a Stromberg 97!