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Art Ebeling
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11 horn bracket

Post by Art Ebeling » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:47 am

This reproduction horn bracket has broken off for the third time. Once out of the package, another time after I soldered it back together, and again after I had a buddy solder it with what he said was the best solder. He is a HVAC installer. There is not enough stem to go thru the bracket to get solder onto. What repair can be done to fix this? I have considered tapping the stem and putting a screw from the bracket side or having the stem turned down more to allow it to be threaded and use a nut on the back side of the bracket. Any other ideas? If someone has a good original or better reproduction I would buy it. Thanks, Art
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John iaccino
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Re: 11 horn bracket

Post by John iaccino » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 am

Use silver solder


R.V.Anderson
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Re: 11 horn bracket

Post by R.V.Anderson » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:54 am

The best fix is a combination of both. Drill and tap the stem for a #10 machine screw; drill and countersink the mounting foot. Install the screw, then use silver solder to secure everything. This makes a strong and permanent repair.

This type of bracket is correct only for mounting on the outside of the body. Don't use it for the late '12-'15 mounts on the inside of the dummy panel. That style uses a different, shorter bracket that keeps things out of the way of the driver's knee.

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RajoRacer
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Re: 11 horn bracket

Post by RajoRacer » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:58 am

I second RV's response - I did the same procedure.


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Art Ebeling
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First Name: Art
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Location: Hillsboro IL
MTFCA Number: 50718

Re: 11 horn bracket

Post by Art Ebeling » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:50 pm

Thank you, Art


Stu Tomlinson
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Re: 11 horn bracket

Post by Stu Tomlinson » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:10 pm

Hi Art,
I have a 1911 and had the exact same problem with it breaking. A really poor design bracket. I drilled and tapped the stem and installed a stud. I then used two then nuts to lock it.
When I tour, I use a couple of thin strips of Velcro and run them from behind the bracket and out and around the stem of the air pipe to strengthen it - this way it adds support to strengthen the very week assembly. This way I don't have to cringe when some visitors wants to try honking the horn.
Stu

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